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Did nobody else notice that while Oden had some nice games early last season, the TEAM wasn't playing all that well over that same stretch?

I noticed that. It was a blessing in disguise that Oden got hurt again. I'm not sure Portland would have made the playoffs without that injury.
 
10 years ago Jane was 63 years old and Jessica was 19... would you really be conflicted on which booty call to act on?

Choosing whether to start LA or Camby is about the same dilemma. While both may have somewhat comparable impact on the floor, because of their ages LA is far more likely to make it through a season healthy. Camby has also been a bench/rotation player before so he's likely not going to have ego issues coming off the pine. I'm for limiting MC's minutes when possible, saving his best for when the games really count.

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Ouch. Typo on my part. I meant 20 years ago, not 10. My bad.
 
I noticed that. It was a blessing in disguise that Oden got hurt again. I'm not sure Portland would have made the playoffs without that injury.

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Did nobody else notice that while Oden had some nice games early last season, the TEAM wasn't playing all that well over that same stretch?

Did you notice that there was only one player on the team, last year, with a better win% than Oden? It was (ironically) Camby - but I am willing to bet that if Oden had some protection on the perimeter in the form of Batum (he did not have it last year, Camby did) - his win% would have been the best on the team.

The team won 61% of the games that Oden played - and when he actually was on the floor - the team won at a 66.7% clip.
 
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Did nobody else notice that while Oden had some nice games early last season, the TEAM wasn't playing all that well over that same stretch?

What was the team's record over that same stretch? (I honestly don't know)
 
Did you notice that there was only one player on the team, last year, with a better win% than Oden? It was (ironically) Camby - but I am willing to bet that if Oden had some protection on the perimeter in the form of Batum (he did not have it last year, Camby did) - his win% would have been the best on the team.

The team won 61% of the games that Oden played - and when he actually was on the floor - the team won at a 66.7% clip.

I believe I read somewhere that Oden had a higher Win % per 48 minutes than Camby and was in fact the best Win % per 48 of all of the Blazers last year.
 
It's only considered bad since we thought the first 20 games would be a cakewalk. 13-8 is a 62% winning percentage; not horrible -- such a winning percentage would net you 51 wins.

Of course Oden was coming off the bench through some of that and Roy looked awful and shot terribly. But Roy is beyond criticism as we all know. :rolleyes:

Oden was setting up on the block a tad too often. But the Blake and Roy seemed to ignore him often.

Oden was sometimes clogging the lane by trying to set up on the block or getting rebounding position. He needs to learn to work with Roy and vice versa.

Roy needs to recognize that while it's his team, Oden is a critical component.

Hopefully, this won't be an issue next year. The fastest path to resolution is playing time together.
 
Hopefully, this won't be an issue next year. The fastest path to resolution is playing time together.

Or, a coach capable of designing an offense that incorporates more than one player at a time.

Just imagine how unstoppable Roy and Oden would be if they ever learn how to run the pick and roll. Hell, last year when Blake was starting, Oden would set the high pick, roll down the lane wide open and Blake would not get him the ball. Why, two reasons: it wasn't designed as a pick and roll, it was designed as a pick and pop to help get Blake open looks since he isn't great at creating for himself; Blake was so turnover averse (normally a good thing) he wouldn't even TRY to get the ball to the wide open rolling big man.

Shit, Roy's 10x the player Blake is. So, a Roy/Oden pick and roll has incredible potential. Will we ever see it with Nate as our coach?

BNM
 
I voted for Camby over Aldridge.
 
Or, a coach capable of designing an offense that incorporates more than one player at a time.

Just imagine how unstoppable Roy and Oden would be if they ever learn how to run the pick and roll. Hell, last year when Blake was starting, Oden would set the high pick, roll down the lane wide open and Blake would not get him the ball. Why, two reasons: it wasn't designed as a pick and roll, it was designed as a pick and pop to help get Blake open looks since he isn't great at creating for himself; Blake was so turnover averse (normally a good thing) he wouldn't even TRY to get the ball to the wide open rolling big man.

Shit, Roy's 10x the player Blake is. So, a Roy/Oden pick and roll has incredible potential. Will we ever see it with Nate as our coach?

BNM

Yes, Roy and Oden pick and roll should be about 1/5th of our points every game. If only they figure it out.
 
Camby. The season of starter Oden would end before that of starter Camby, so start Camby.
 
Camby. The season of starter Oden would end before that of starter Camby, so start Camby.

Great logic. We should also start Rudy over Roy. That would solve two problems. Roy has also shown he's injury prone and breaks down when he's asked to play too many minutes and carry too much of a load. And, Rudy would no longer whine about wanting a bigger role on the team and be a huge distraction.

BNM
 
Okay, you're at 53 and 9. That's even worse.

That was really my point. You look back three years ago and you wouldn't even think about whether you would have started Camby over Oden (had we had Camby) since Oden was injured and you should have gone to jail had you made the wrong choice. Last year was like 19 vs. 63. Wouldn't have been a choice had we had Camby as Oden was now legal). Now we're at 29 and 73. It's a no-brainer.
 
Replace "Jessica Alba" with "Aileen Wournos", and the analogy might be more relevant.
 

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