Official 2018-2019 training camp thread

[riverman]

He will have a career year, unless he doesn't!?

well there's also that option....he has guys to beat to get minutes at his position, that's for sure. I think only Curry will be a lock for one of the 3 spots from last year

 

[riverman]

Even Ed Davis thrived here...he's not much older than Dame and he's on his fifth team...Mo didn't even play in Orlando...Bazz didn't play either nor did Baldwin...my point is guys come here and build value and increase their game..Stauskas could easily do the same...I'm not saying he will but I wouldn't throw him under the bus yet....people hated Pat Connaughton...everybody said he should go play baseball...he earned rotation minutes though

 

[THE HCP]

Maybe this guy can help?

Nik Stauskas 2016 Season Highlights - YouTube

I haven't really followed his pro career that much, but watched him at Mich and he was a scrapper and move well w/o the ball.
Also, he is a slasher of which we really haven't had a good one except maybe Mo when he feels like it.

Always laugh a bit when people post players highlight videos. You give me 5 minutes and I can make Evan Turner look like Scottie Pippen,

 

[Boob-No-More]

Always laugh a bit when people post players highlight videos. You give me 5 minutes and I can make Evan Turner look like Scottie Pippen,

If I give you five months, can you make him look like Steph Curry?

BNM

 

[riverman]

Always laugh a bit when people post players highlight videos. You give me 5 minutes and I can make Evan Turner look like Scottie Pippen,

buzzkill! so you've got 5 minutes...show me how you make Stauskas look like Jimmy Butler then...go ahead and take 10 minutes if you need....you posted highlights of a high school football team if I remember...boom! If I had access to film like you probably do I'd fill this place with some buzz generating clips to get ready for the season....the Wade Baldwin clip Rasta posted was awesome...the dude frustrated James Harden ...it doesn't get better than frustrating James Harden!

 

[BigGameDame]

We really need to start a thread with all the different photoshops people can do with the first picture of Meyers Little Pony.

 

[James lamphear]

This why you have training camp let the competition begin next month.

 

[BigGameDame]

 

[BonesJones]

I don't think it happens past December but early on I do....I think it trims down to 9 after the allstar break and as I said earlier...not including garbage time, foul trouble in Collins case, etc...I think Collins will have trouble staying out of foul trouble if he subs for Nurk at the 5

They'll experiment for sure, in just talking about the rotation I think they'll settle on. Of course other players will play situationally, I'm just talking about their normal rotation. A lot of people seem to be saying that they'll settle for a normal rotation with 10-12 players in it. 9 is reasonable.

 

[BonesJones]

Even Ed Davis thrived here...he's not much older than Dame and he's on his fifth team...Mo didn't even play in Orlando...Bazz didn't play either nor did Baldwin...my point is guys come here and build value and increase their game..Stauskas could easily do the same...I'm not saying he will but I wouldn't throw him under the bus yet....people hated Pat Connaughton...everybody said he should go play baseball...he earned rotation minutes though

All those players were much better than Stauskas before the got here. Shabazz was as efficient as Stauskas, and could handle the ball and make plays and was also a better defender. Moenhad a solid year before getting here and his size+athleticism always gave him a higher season than others. Davis was terrific before he got here too, we didn't really turn him into something he wasn't before.

You say Moe and Bazz didn't play much... exactly. Pat didn't either. Their struggles were over a sample size amd they still needed NBA experience to adapt. Meanwhile, Stauskas has consistently played and reapetedly struggled. More likely to be indicitive of a player the larger the sample is. It's a completely different narrative for Stauskas.

Trent is already better than him.

 

[THE HCP]

buzzkill! so you've got 5 minutes...show me how you make Stauskas look like Jimmy Butler then...go ahead and take 10 minutes if you need....you posted highlights of a high school football team if I remember...boom! If I had access to film like you probably do I'd fill this place with some buzz generating clips to get ready for the season....the Wade Baldwin clip Rasta posted was awesome...the dude frustrated James Harden ...it doesn't get better than frustrating James Harden!

I don’t start editing hoop stuff til hoop season son. I’m knee deep into Boxing/Soccer/Football/Golf season FAMS.

 

[BonesJones]

Crabbe was a starter and at times a first or second option...Stauskas hasn't had that role at all....I think it's too early to tell what he'll do under Stotts but I'll predict he'll have a career year in Portland if he cracks the rotation

What does Crabbe starting have to do with anything? You said something like Crabbe hasn't looked anywhere near as good in BKN as he did here yet he was still much better in BKN than Stauskas has ever been (including BKN). I don't understand your response.

Optimism is good, I get that... But it could be any player in the NBA and people in here would be saying they have a solid chance at helping us win playoff games. Just like we were with Anthony Morrow last year.

 

[Scalma]

He's not going to regularly play, and if he does we'll be a lottery team. He can theoretically bring 3pt shooting, but....

What else could he bring, exactly? The guy has a career 8.8 PER. The guy has a career 52TS%. The guy can't defend.

I don't see it. Please explain.

There was a reason he was a consensus lottery pick, and it wasn’t just because he could shoot. He has mentioned before that he prefers the ball in his hands and shooting off the dribble. He’s never had the freedom to do it in the NBA, nor has he gotten a consistent role, which is why his stats so far don’t mean much to me. At Michigan he was the go to guy, and he played on the same team as Caris LeVert and Glenn Robinson, so it wasn’t just by default. He passed. He got to the line. He didn’t turn the ball over.

Our second unit was awful last season when it came to scoring and we relied too much on CJ. Stauskas still actually has really good percentages from the corner (40%) and if given the expected freedom, could be an effective, multi dimensional scorer off the bench. Terry gives everyone freedom, even when they shouldn’t (Aminu) and it could be the confidence boost Stauskas needs to jump start his career.

If Trent beats him out, great, but they didn’t sign Stauskas to sit, or to fill out the back end of the roster imo. They have plans for him.

 

[BonesJones]

There was a reason he was a consensus lottery pick, and it wasn’t just because he could shoot. He has mentioned before that he prefers the ball in his hands and shooting off the dribble. He’s never had the freedom to do it in the NBA, nor has he gotten a consistent role, which is why his stats so far don’t mean much to me. At Michigan he was the go to guy, and he played on the same team as Caris LeVert and Glenn Robinson, so it wasn’t just by default. He passed. He got to the line. He didn’t turn the ball over.

Our second unit was awful last season when it came to scoring and we relied too much on CJ. Stauskas still actually has really good percentages from the corner (40%) and if given the expected freedom, could be an effective, multi dimensional scorer off the bench. Terry gives everyone freedom, even when they shouldn’t (Aminu) and it could be the confidence boost Stauskas needs to jump start his career.

If Trent beats him out, great, but they didn’t sign Stauskas to sit, or to fill out the back end of the roster imo. They have plans for him.

You know who else were lottery picks? Meyers Leonard. Thomas Robinson. Noah Vonleh. It doesn't mean anything.

He isn't athletic enough to put his ball skills to use. He was just quick enough in college to make plays for himself and others. He's not fast enough in the NBA for it to translate.

So he can't play off well the ball...? This sounds similar to the reports of what Jimmer Fredette thought... if he's more comfortable with the ball in his hands than in someone else's, yet doesn't produce much with the ball anyway, and is a bad defender too, then that's a horrible fit next to Dame and CJ.

They signed Stauskas as insurance IMO. Not every FA signing is for a guy that will see minutes.

Stauskas could be multi-dimensional? Based on what he did in college 5 years ago and because he says he likes having the ball?

I understand thinking there's a chance he could become a mediocre at best player, but to think he can become a rotation player for a playoff team is a stretch.

 

[Scalma]

You know who else were lottery picks? Meyers Leonard. Thomas Robinson. Noah Vonleh. It doesn't mean anything.

He isn't athletic enough to put his ball skills to use. He was just quick enough in college to make plays for himself and others. He's not fast enough in the NBA for it to translate.

So he can't play off well the ball...? This sounds similar to the reports of what Jimmer Fredette thought... if he's more comfortable with the ball in his hands than in someone else's, yet doesn't produce much with the ball anyway, and is a bad defender too, then that's a horrible fit next to Dame and CJ.

They signed Stauskas as insurance IMO. Not every FA signing is for a guy that will see minutes.

Stauskas could be multi-dimensional? Based on what he did in college 5 years ago and because he says he likes having the ball?

I understand thinking there's a chance he could become a mediocre at best player, but to think he can become a rotation player for a playoff team is a stretch.

Email Terry then. Your arrogance bores me.

 

[BonesJones]

Email Terry then. Your arrogance bores me.

I knew the salty, snarky little response was coming. I won't say I didn't bait it, but it wasn't too difficult.

 

[BonesJones]

Email Terry then. Your arrogance bores me.

Btw, can you forward me his e-mail? I don't have it.

 

[Scalma]

I knew the salty, snarky little response was coming. I won't say I didn't bait it, but it wasn't too difficult.

Yea, you should be used to people being turned off by your general attitude by now.

You asked for me to explain, I did. Then you condescendingly tell me I’m wrong. Cool. Good for you. Have a nice night.

 

[BonesJones]

Yea, you should be used to people being turned off by your general attitude by now.

You asked for me to explain, I did. Then you condescendingly tell me I’m wrong. Cool. Good for you. Have a nice night.

I didnt tell you youre wrong. Do I really have to put the disclaimer "The following is my opinion" for you to not get upset?" I posted my opinion, just like you did. It's a shame people get so worked up over a difference in opinion. Relax.

 

[jlprk]

I have Stauskas as our starting SF.

You know how I say that we need a true SF so badly that Olshey should just convert a 6-6 guard? He reads my posts.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Always laugh a bit when people post players highlight videos. You give me 5 minutes and I can make Evan Turner look like Scottie Pippen,

People have been giving you five minutes for years (since you said the same thing about Joel Przybilla) and you've never delivered.

 

[Mediocre Man]

People have been giving you five minutes for years (since you said the same thing about Joel Przybilla) and you've never delivered.

I'll take What women have told the HCP for years for $100, Alex

 

[Hoopguru]

A slasher? He's a career 43% 2pt shooter... we blasted Nurkic for shooting 51% from 2pt range! Stauskas shot 37% from 2pt last season too. I don't see how he's a slasher..

I guess a a decent shooter cant be a slasher (player that also looks to drive/slash to the hoop?) He seems comfortable doing both. Looks like he likes to take his guy off the dribble and slash to me.
Im not trying to make a case where he's an all star but he is an NBA caliber player in my mind.

 

[Reep]

They signed Stauskas as insurance IMO. Not every FA signing is for a guy that will see minutes.

I thought this was relatively obvious to everyone. Curry and Stauskas are on contracts where if they blow up and are great, we lose them. The only rational explanation then is that Olshey brought them in as place holders to keep the team running while Trent and Simons develop, and to test the theory that part of the failure of last year was week accessory shooters.

 

[Hoopguru]

If I give you five months, can you make him look like Steph Curry?

BNM

no sir... you could never make Turner look like Pip.

 

[Reep]

I guess a a decent shooter cant be a slasher (player that also looks to drive/slash to the hoop?) He seems comfortable doing both. Looks like he likes to take his guy off the dribble and slash to me.
Im not trying to make a case where he's an all star but he is an NBA caliber player in my mind.

You are both getting a bit caught up in semantics. Stauskas has not demonstrated good slashing ability yet in the NBA. So by NBA standards at this time, he is not a slasher. But, in college he did demonstrate that, and in the future he might be able to demonstrate that. He certainly appears to have more potential in that direction than Crabbe did.

 

[Hoopguru]

You are both getting a bit caught up in semantics. Stauskas has not demonstrated good slashing ability yet in the NBA. So by NBA standards at this time, he is not a slasher. But, in college he did demonstrate that, and in the future he might be able to demonstrate that. He certainly appears to have more potential in that direction than Crabbe did.

I agree.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/portland-trail-blazers/are-these-blazers-christmas-day-jerseys

Shouldn't they have really cold rain drops instead of snowflakes?

And . . .

Honestly, it is good to see Meyers just playing basketball.

I wish Evan Turner was working as hard as Myers.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

A slasher? He's a career 43% 2pt shooter... we blasted Nurkic for shooting 51% from 2pt range! Stauskas shot 37% from 2pt last season too. I don't see how he's a slasher..

He could be a failed slasher?

 

[dviss1]

I guess a a decent shooter cant be a slasher (player that also looks to drive/slash to the hoop?) He seems comfortable doing both. Looks like he likes to take his guy off the dribble and slash to me.
Im not trying to make a case where he's an all star but he is an NBA caliber player in my mind.

Lol. That one video convinced you he's a "slasher"?

Yeah, only if his name was Jack.