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- Questionable background
- feel / decision making on both ends
- shaky shooting projection.

That shaky shooting projection is based on what, his three point percentages? If you look at his game log last season you’ll see a couple games with high volume that really cratered his overall percentage. That helps explain why there was such a contrast between his freshman and sophomore splits. I’ll take the overall sample of two seasons though.

Either way, guys with those concerns get taken in the first round all the time, nevermind second. He’s got plus athleticism, plus measurables, and shows an ability to be a three level scorer from the wing. Those guys usually aren’t “second rounder at best.”
 
That shaky shooting projection is based on what, his three point percentages? If you look at his game log last season you’ll see a couple games with high volume that really cratered his overall percentage. That helps explain why there was such a contrast between his freshman and sophomore splits. I’ll take the overall sample of two seasons though.

Either way, guys with those concerns get taken in the first round all the time, nevermind second. He’s got plus athleticism, plus measurables, and shows an ability to be a three level scorer from the wing. Those guys usually aren’t “second rounder at best.”
How would you compare him to Kevin Porter Jr?

Feel like Scrubb is a poor man's version...
 
That shaky shooting projection is based on what, his three point percentages? If you look at his game log last season you’ll see a couple games with high volume that really cratered his overall percentage. That helps explain why there was such a contrast between his freshman and sophomore splits. I’ll take the overall sample of two seasons though.

Either way, guys with those concerns get taken in the first round all the time, nevermind second. He’s got plus athleticism, plus measurables, and shows an ability to be a three level scorer from the wing. Those guys usually aren’t “second rounder at best.”
As a prospect, how is he any better than Will Barton was? Will was a second rounder as well.
 
How would you compare him to Kevin Porter Jr?

Feel like Scrubb is a poor man's version...

honestly never watched porter enough in college or in the nba to make a real comparison. Someone on here said Hood and I didn’t think that was bad, Scrubb just seems little more explosive.
 
As a prospect, how is he any better than Will Barton was? Will was a second rounder as well.

Scrubb is younger, more athletic, bigger with the frame to add more size. He’s got legit SF size while Barton was/is a skinny two with a minimal frame that can now play some SF, but only because the league got smaller. Like you’d still never put Barton on a Tatum defensively. Scrubb at least has the potential to draw those kind of assignments.
 
On ABC, (KATU ch 2) at 1:00, they are doing an NBA Draft Preview and at 1:30, will do a Mock Draft.
 
Mike Schmidz/Jonathon Givony Live NBA Mock Draft: ESPN (with Jay Bilas and Kendrick Perkins)

MIN - Ball
GSW - Wiseman
CHA - Edwards
CHI - Avdija
CLE - Toppin
ATL - Okoro
DET - Williams (biggest riser)
NYN - Haliburton
WAS - Okongwu (Perkins wanted RJ Hampton here)
PHX - Vassell
SAS - Nesmith
SAC - Hayes
NOR - Bey
BOS - Lewis
ORL - Hampton
POR - Maxey (think there is very little chance he goes to Portland)
MIN - Achiuwa
DAL - Pokusevski
BRK - Anthony
MIA - Smith
PHI - Flynn (Perkins wants Mason here)
DEN - Green
UTA - Maledon
MIL - Bane
OKC - McDaniels (will OKC package 2 picks and move up?)
BOS - Bolmaro
NYN - Steward
LAL - Terry (reported to be going to OKC)
TOR - Nnaji
BOS - Tillman (The Celtics 3rd first-round pick in this Draft. Don't see them keeping all of those.)

Payton Pritchard got a shout out at the end.
 
Chad Ford has Scrubb going in the first to Boston

https://nbabigboard.com/mock-draft-2-0/
Updated 11/15: The buzz on Scrubb has been loud the past few weeks. The JUCO player of the year was set to play in Louisville this year before jumping into the draft. Several teams including the Blazers, Raptors and Celtics have been rumored to have interest.
 
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With Whiteside likely gone either for nothing or via a S&T, I'd like to get a wing. But most Mock's have the majority of the quality (or even reach) SF's gone by #16. Given that, it wouldn't bother me at all to get Jalen Smith at #16. Portland is going to need some help up front and I think he could give you 15+ minutes off the bench while he gains in experience and ups his strength.

He is explosive, can shoot it, and even has a bit of a pull-up game which is rare for someone 6'10". (7'2.25" wingspan doesn't bother me either)

 
Jayden Scrubb wasn’t always bound to have a chance to play for Team USA or even get an invite to training camp, for that matter.

But he's one of 31 players at the United States Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs searching for destiny to collide with skill, as Team USA Under-19 FIBA World Cup tryouts are in full swing.

Scrubb is different from the rest. His journey is both heartbreaking and awe-inspiring.

The to-be junior college sophomore was written off as a lifelong failure after flunking out of Central High School in Louisville, Kentucky as a freshman. He grew up on the west end of town, didn’t have much and was given up on by “the system,” as his father, Jason Scrubb, described the situation.

“We were from a tougher part of town, which some would consider the hood,” Jason said. “He had struggles in the classroom. In terms of home life, we had our struggles. A lot of people said he wouldn’t make it.”

Four years after failing from an academic standpoint, Jayden holds an offer to play Division I basketball at Louisville, a town where some people once said he’d never amount to anything. Oh yeah, he also has scholarship offers from Kansas State, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, Xavier, Texas Tech and Wichita State – the icing on the cake.

“I’m glad I had good people in my corner that were watching over me and making sure I made the right decisions,” said Jayden, the sole JUCO player at training camp. “I’m just excited to showcase my talent that I’ve been grasping on (to) for years.”

It all started with a simple slogan growing up: “Get it out the mud.”

“The west end is like the bad area, so ‘get it out the mud’ means going to the gym when nobody is watching,” Jayden said. “It gave me a toughness.”

‘It’s been a magical thing’

Once Jayden failed freshman year, he got his head in the books over the summer. He even spent a few 16-hour days doing homework while still managing to sneak into the gym at night. The goal was to make sure he met minimum requirements in order to begin his sophomore year.

The mission was successful, but Jayden didn’t attend Central High anymore. Instead, his life took a 360-degree turn as he took a need-based voucher and enrolled in Trinity High School, a Catholic, all-boys, college preparatory institution in St. Matthews, Kentucky.

Trinity was nothing like Central High – not even close.

“He left one of the worst schools statistically and was blessed to go to one of the better schools,” Jason said. “They took a gamble after seeing his potential, and it was one of the best things that could’ve happened to him.”

While Jayden was preparing to go to Trinity, his family helped put him on a learning plan at the new school, especially after believing he may have had a learning disability.

“We were on and off medications and things like that,” Jason said. “It was a real journey.”

Jayden was forced to sit out his sophomore year due to transfer rules, but he made an immediate impact as a junior. The following season, as a senior in 2017-18, he averaged in 17.8 points, 7.1 rebounds and was named the Seventh Region Player of the Year by the Kentucky Association of Basketball Coaches.

Most all of that was based on skill alone, but it also helped that Jayden shot up from 6-foot-2 to 6-foot-6 over the summer between his sophomore and junior year, he said.

Despite the high school success at Trinity under coach Mike Szabo, Jayden wasn’t a qualifier for a Division I scholarship due to his academic struggles as a freshman. His father said he was in such a hole that it was nearly impossible to escape.

So, on April 11, 2018, Jayden signed to play basketball at John A. Logan College, an NJCAA program in Carterville, Illinois, ran by coach Kyle Smithpeters, who was named the Grand Rivers Athletic Conference Coach of the Year just a season prior to Jayden's arrival.

“I was a bit skeptical at first,” Jayden said. “As I did my research and learned more about it, I realized that people are going to gravitate toward talent no matter where it’s at.

“I’m just excited that people recognized before it’s too late.”

‘I believed in him’

Jason was upset his son’s planned Division I route didn’t work out. He remained proud of Jayden deep down but was quite frustrated at the circumstances and tough road ahead. He kept the latter a secret from his son.

“I couldn’t let him see that,” Jason said. “I had to let him know I had his best interest at heart and that I believed in him.”

Jayden quickly turned heads at John A. Logan, filling up the stat sheet with 19.5 points, 8.6 rebounds, 1.5 assists per game and 48 total blocks as a freshman in 2018-19. He shot 54.6 percent from the field, 46.4 percent from 3-point range and 79.1 percent from the free throw line over the course of a 27-5 season. What Smithpeters said separates Jayden from the rest is his natural ability to score, both inside and outside, and his defensive tenacity to stay in front of his opponents without fouling.

Coaches from all across the country began pouring in to watch him play. Right now, Jayden said he’s most interested in Cincinnati, Louisville, Oregon, Ole Miss, Alabama and Memphis.

“Jay is the one that’s continuously made the decision to get better, and I think that’s one thing that gets lost in the process,” Smithpeters said. “The kid hit a fork in the road and made the best of the situation. He was dealt a tough hand and is coming out on top.”

One of Jayden’s mentors at John A. Logan was guard David Sloan, a sophomore.

Sloan, named conference player of the year, averaged 16.1 points, 4.5 rebounds and 10.2 assists. He signed to Kansas State in May 2019, and Jayden got a front-row view of his junior college journey.

Kansas State’s coach, Bruce Weber, is also the coach of the Under-19 team for the FIBA World Cup. With Weber’s knowledge of the JUCO game, he evaluated Jayden’s film, checked the numbers and named him as an Under-19 training camp invitee on May 22.

“It’s a great opportunity for him to be a part of something special,” Weber said of Jayden. “Whether he makes it or not, it’ll help him down the road. He’s got elite athleticism, and you see him get out on the break. He can shoot the basketball from the perimeter.”

Finalists for Weber's team will be selected Tuesday morning. The official 12-man roster is slated to be released sometime over the following week before the team departs June 24 to Greece for the 2019 FIBA U19 World Cup.

The only NJCAA player to ever make the Under-19 team was Randy Reed in 1979 from Forest Park College in Missouri, and Jayden could become the second.

Regardless of what happens, Jayden still has another year at John A. Logan and will leave following the 2019-20 season with an associate degree in hand. He has top-notch schools finally pushing for his services and is sure to make an impact wherever he lands.

Jayden will have two years of college basketball eligibility remaining, and he could make a return to Louisville – a town with a handful of people that wrote him off years ago.

“It’s a big thing for me, being from Louisville,” Jayden said. “I like coach (Chris) Mack, and I see what he’s trying to do to clean up the program. He’s my kind of guy.”

If the Division I route out of high school would’ve worked out for Jayden, he said there’s a possibility he could’ve been preparing to enter the 2019 NBA Draft in a few days as a one-and-done.

But things didn’t go as expected, and Jayden may have said it best.

“Just get it out the mud,” he said, smiling. “If I could go back, I wouldn’t change a thing. Never give up on yourself.”
https://gazette.com/sports/never-gi...cle_911100ae-9105-11e9-957d-0bbd005b74eb.html
 
As a prospect, how is he any better than Will Barton was? Will was a second rounder as well.

I look at what Barton's accomplished in the NBA. He's scored in double figures five years running ... two of those while coming off the bench.

If you'd redo the 2012 NBA Draft, Barton's going in the lottery, probably in the top dozen, in fact.

Scrubb is a physically stronger, at least as athletic player than Barton, and he appears to be a better shooter.

I'm not saying I'd be comfortable taking Scrubb at 16, but if you had a crystal ball and knew he was going to have a career like Barton, he would be a good pick at 16, and I remember months ago where there were some scouts that pegged him in the first round.
 
Maybe I missed it, but does anyone have any insight into Scrubb's defense?
The physical tools are there because he does seem to be athletic and he has a good wingspan at 6'9" but he's an unknown because he played against Junior College opponents and shutting them down isn't too impressive and doesn't tell you anything. So to answer your question, no no one has any insight into Scrubb's actual defense because there was no combine, so there is no film to study of him defending other NBA prospects let alone NBA level players.
 
The main thing that bothers me about Scrubb is his huge dip in shooting numbers from his freshman to sophomore year. That is quite puzzling at that level of competition.

FG%: 54.9% to 50.1%

3PT%: 46.4% to 33.3% (on less than one more attempt per game)

FT%: 79.1% to 72.7%

If those numbers were reversed it would be a phenomenal jump but the decline leads me to believe he must not have a very strong work ethic. I totally get the intrigue athletically but I'd be mad if we take him at 16.
 
With Whiteside likely gone either for nothing or via a S&T, I'd like to get a wing. But most Mock's have the majority of the quality (or even reach) SF's gone by #16. Given that, it wouldn't bother me at all to get Jalen Smith at #16. Portland is going to need some help up front and I think he could give you 15+ minutes off the bench while he gains in experience and ups his strength.

He is explosive, can shoot it, and even has a bit of a pull-up game which is rare for someone 6'10". (7'2.25" wingspan doesn't bother me either)


I love his game. Just dropped a draft profile on him.
 
Givony says Portland is interested in Poku, McDaniels, and Scrubb. First time I’ve seen someone other than Wasserman connect Portland to Poku. McDaniels has been connected to Portland by Chad Ford. Scrubb by Hollinger. Seems like the safe bet is it’ll be one of those three, but who the fuck knows. Fwiw, Givony has the blazers taking Precious, but that’s not based on intel, rather “BPA”
 
The physical tools are there because he does seem to be athletic and he has a good wingspan at 6'9" but he's an unknown because he played against Junior College opponents and shutting them down isn't too impressive and doesn't tell you anything.

Guys used to get drafted out of high school. There are players taken out of European second divisions all the time. It’s not about the level of competition. It’s about projecting players to the next level.
 
https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/2048127
The 20-year-old has spent this prolonged offseason training in Atlanta with skills coach Rob Allen, sharpening the attributes - the elite athleticism and ability to score from everywhere - that have elevated him to the second round of some mock drafts.

The team that selects him is "going to get a dog," Allen said, not to mention a 40-inch leaper who can throw down on rim-protectors and dunk between his legs. Scrubb is quick, twitchy, springy, and left-handed, and Allen calls him a top-10 talent in the draft, and a creator who can get to spots on the floor others can't reach. He thinks Scrubb possesses the length to become an impact defender and the competitive zeal to cast aside doubts, such as criticisms that his JUCO competition was weak.

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A lot of prospects can shoot, Jason said. A lot can jump, and a lot defend well. Invariably, he said, Jay does those things and makes his teams better. He's versatile and tough, and the guard hasn't stopped vying for player-of-the-year honors since his junior year of high school.

"A lot of people haven't seen him play in real life. He's a leader. He rebounds well. He takes charges. He's fearless. And that feeds his teammates," Jason said. "That's why he's always been able to win, whether it's been in football, baseball, and now basketball. I think that mentality will translate.”
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earned him an invite to USA Basketball's Under-19 World Cup tryouts alongside the likes of Haliburton, Onyeka Okongwu, and R.J. Hampton.

"USA camp, he was literally just dunking on these guys left and right," Jason Scrubb said. "The footage is out there. That's just what he does."
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Combined with the NBA interest he commanded as a sophomore, Scrubb's experience in those Louisville runs - when he's shared the court with DeAngelo Russell, Rajon Rondo, Darren Collison, and other veteran pros - convinced him he's ready to make the leap.
 
If Olshey takes Scrubb at 16 (shit even Poku or McDaniels) it’d be the most ballsy thing he’s done as GM. He’s been on the conservative side, not taking too many risks, so I would applaud it without even caring whether those players pan out or not. You can bring up Simons, but he was a late first rounder. Taking a high risk/high reward player in the middle of the round, especially when there are seemingly multiple other players that can fill a more immediate role, is a little different.
 
Given his production, and his room for growth being only a Sophomore, it just seems he should be getting more hype. A rim protector that can defend a couple of positions, hit '3's, and even has a bit of a pull-up game is pretty rare.

Jalen Smith can’t defend multiple positions imo, he’s strictly a five at the next level. He’s gonna get worked in space/pick and rolls. I think that’s what hurts his value, he’s a five that’s built like a four. The league is getting smaller so he’ll have a role, but he’s gonna struggle against bigger centers and athletic fours. Offensively his projection is a lot more optimistic.
 

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