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julius said:
They were also probably photos taken by the people who are allowed to take it. But people who are graspin' at straws never really put much critical thinking in to what they're saying.
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I think it’s grasping at straws trying to make this into anything at all. Just another silly overblown scandal that won’t garner any attention. Throwing more dogshit at a wall to see what sticks.
 
RR7 said:
Were any of the pictures you put here posted by the actual presidents on their social media for political gain?

Also cute whataboutism
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People are allowed to call out hypocrisy with examples. Saying “whataboutism” is just you admitting you don’t like pushback. It’s a meaningless term.
 


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MAGA is trying to say the family authorized these photos and the campaign stunt so it’s okay. That’s false and a lie. There was an official photographer there from Arlington. The campaign wanted their guys. Arlington does that to make sure other families aren’t caught up against their wishes. That’s on top of it being a campaign staffer which is literally against Federal law. They were told that and then assaulted an Army official when she wouldn’t budge. Do you see that grave on the left? Major Navas. His family didn’t get to approve his grave being included in Trump’s stunt. You see that family visiting their loved one way in the back? They didn’t get to approve being included in this ridiculous smiling picture as they mourned. That’s why they have the rules and official photographers. Because this family doesn’t get to over rule the others and use their families for this campaign stunt. Not even for that fucking loser and former failed President Trump.

Second important point. This was not an official event. This was arranged by two of the 13 families as a private wreath laying. They invited Trump because they are huge supporters. That’s their right. Every day there are unofficial wreath layings by groups, families and nonprofits. The POTUS and VPOTUS don’t attend. The family can do that. They can’t over rule the law. They can’t take away the rights of the other hundreds of families with loved ones in Section 60. Their statement is meaningless. Trump broke the law and used our most hallowed ground as a campaign stunt.
 
RR7 said:
Were any of the pictures you put here posted by the actual presidents on their social media for political gain?

Also cute whataboutism
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Also, where’s the context? Where’s your evidence of intention? Where is it explicitly shown to be for political motive?
 
jonnyboy said:
Also, where’s the context? Where’s your evidence of intention? Where is it explicitly shown to be for political motive?
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It was posted on social media, otherwise we wouldn't know about it. Everything done on social media is for political motives. Don't act naive.
 
jonnyboy said:
Also, where’s the context? Where’s your evidence of intention? Where is it explicitly shown to be for political motive?
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What is pissing people off (because it certainly pisses me off) is that this is just one more example (in a lifetime chockablock full of examples) where Donald J. Trump thinks that the rules that apply to every other human being do not apply to him....ever. He is "special" and deserves special treatment. C'mon, this is the guy who places himself as on the same level as God, and a cut above Jesus. Sorry, but at my age I'm tired of being forced by the rules and laws of society to toe the line while entitled POS's like Trump stomp on those same rules and laws with impunity (and glee). And fucking EVERYTHING Trump does has a political motivation, which makes your question look remarkably clueless.
 
I think we all can agree that it was great of Trump to remember those soldiers that died as a result of his botching our withdrawal from Afghanistan, though.

I mean, he closed most of our air bases, notified the Taliban but not our allies, drew down our forces to 2,500 which was half the number of Taliban fighters he released and set a May withdraw date that would have made things worse if Biden hadn't have pushed it back three months.
 
PCmor7 said:
I think we all can agree that it was great of Trump to remember those soldiers that died as a result of his botching our withdrawal from Afghanistan, though.

I mean, he closed most of our air bases, notified the Taliban but not our allies, drew down our forces to 2,500 which was half the number of Taliban fighters he released and set a May withdraw date that would have made things worse if Biden hadn't have pushed it back three months.
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You're living in a different reality.
 
Phatguysrule said:
And Trump gave us the deaths of over a million Americans due in large part to his lies and waffling positions, as well as an attempted insurrection. Not to mention dozens of other negatives.

No contest.
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Trump dropped that toxic waste injection on the public in record time. Operation Warp Speed is probably my biggest criticism of the guy. I kinda figured all you guys with 7 booster holes in your arms would be lining up to suck him off, to see if you can get “juiced up” once more LOL.
 
jonnyboy said:
Trump dropped that toxic waste injection on the public in record time. Operation Warp Speed is probably my biggest criticism of the guy. I kinda figured all you guys with 7 booster holes in your arms would be lining up to suck him off, to see if you can get “juiced up” once more LOL.
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The one part of the pandemic that he didn't screw the pooch on.
 
beast blazer said:
You're living in a different reality.
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Let me put this in another perspective for you.

If the Seahawks got down 21 points and then subbed with five minutes to go and ended up losing by 24, the guys that finished the game wouldn't be the reason they lost.
 
PCmor7 said:
Let me put this in another perspective for you.

If the Seahawks got down 21 points and then subbed with five minutes to go and ended up losing by 24, the guys that finished the game wouldn't be the reason they lost.
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Right, it would be because some of the Seahawks were vaccinated.

barfo
 
PCmor7 said:
Let me put this in another perspective for you.

If the Seahawks got down 21 points and then subbed with five minutes to go and ended up losing by 24, the guys that finished the game wouldn't be the reason they lost.
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We've pulled out of several wars without that kind of fiasco, hundreds of millions in equipment to the enemy. Blaming Trump for the ridiculous exit that was performed under the Biden regime makes 0 sense.
 
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beast blazer said:
We've pulled out of several wars without that kind of fiasco, hundreds of millions in equipment to the enemy. Blaming Trump for the ridiculous exit that was performed under the Biden regime makes 0 sense.
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Unfortunately, the only clown in this was Trump, who hatched that fiasco. As with everything Trump touched, Biden did the best he could cleaning it up, but, unfortunately, just like COVID, people died unnecessarily because Trump was in over his head.

And he still is.
 
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beast blazer said:
We've pulled out of several wars without that kind of fiasco, hundreds of millions in equipment to the enemy. Blaming Trump for the ridiculous exit that was performed under the Biden regime makes 0 sense.
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Again, it was Trump that made the deal to pull out.

It was Trump that cut a deal with the Taliban.

It was Trump that invited the Taliban to Camp David on 9/11 no less.

It was Trump that released 5,000 Taliban fighters, including one that would become their leader.

It was Trump that didn't clue in the Afghan government or military to what he was doing.

It was Trump that pulled out all but 2,500 U.S. troops.

It was Trump that closed all of our airbases in Afghanistan, making it harder to get people out.

It was Trump that set a May deadline to get everyone out.

It was Trump who didn't talk to Biden's transition team to let them know what was going on.

Considering everything Trump screwed up, we're probably fortunate we only lost 13 soldiers. Those families should be suing Trump. His action was a disgrace and crapped on every soldier that died or injured in that campaign, and if you don't understand that, you're just a Trump simp.
 
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Geez, I'm just catching up on this myself, but former Republican political consultant Stuart Stevens just took Scott Jennings' soul on Trump during a CNN panel discussion a few hours ago.

I don't want to flood the topic with the clips of it, but check it out. It's worth it.
 
PCmor7 said:
Geez, I'm just catching up on this myself, but former Republican political consultant Stuart Stevens just took Scott Jennings' soul on Trump during a CNN panel discussion a few hours ago.

I don't want to flood the topic with the clips of it, but check it out. It's worth it.
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Link?
 
I am first on my block to display Harris Walz sign but now someone has Veterans for Harris. I will leave a note about next campaign event. Two women in lunch group wore Cat Lady for Kamala shirts.
No Trump signs
 
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