Politics Official 2024 Presidential Election Thread

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Who will "Win?"

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Trump campaigns on the economy...prices are too high...people want him to fix it.

Trump to put in place tariffs that will raise the prices of goods.

GOP response...willing to pay more for food if Trump stops Fentanyl...which he probably won't from coming over the border...
 
Texas rules border agents can't cut immigrants stuck in border barbed wire out because fuck helping a human being.
 
Chris Craig said:
Trump campaigns on the economy...prices are too high...people want him to fix it.

Trump to put in place tariffs that will raise the prices of goods.

GOP response...willing to pay more for food if Trump stops Fentanyl...which he probably won't from coming over the border...
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Price of fentanyl will rise as well. So Trump will get credit for that...
 
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I think maybe Biden should just put all these things Trump is saying he should do into effect before Trump's inauguration. Give Trump a running start at running the country into the ground.

After all, the people have spoken and given Trump a mandate ....
 
PCmor7 said:
I think maybe Biden should just put all these things Trump is saying he should do into effect before Trump's inauguration. Give Trump a running start at running the country into the ground.

After all, the people have spoken and given Trump a mandate ....
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I think he should resign and let Kamala be sworn in as the 47th president. All of Trump's and his maga crowds gear would be useless.
 
I always wondered why Pelosi impeached Trump but not a far worse president, Bush. After she got out of Congress, she disclosed that he was one of her best buddies. She and Hubby had often socialized with the mass torturer during his presidency, at each others' houses for torture cocktails.
 
jlprk said:
I always wondered why Pelosi impeached Trump but not a far worse president, Bush. After she got out of Congress, she disclosed that he was one of her best buddies. She and Hubby had often socialized with the mass torturer during his presidency, at each others' houses for torture cocktails.
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Like the Teamsters President Sean O'Brien says, elites have no loyalty to this country. They have no party. I wish people would stop shilling for their candidates and come together. I'm seeing it just as much from the Dem supporters as I see it on the other side unfortunately. Pelosi maybe more responsible than anyone else for killing single payer healthcare in this country.
 
AmirIcon said:
So nobody wants to talk about Biden commuting the sentence of a judge who was taking millions of dollars in bribes to throw kids in for profit prisons for a kickback until one of the kids actually committed suicide? Is that because Biden is so moral?

https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/12/13/judge-michael-conahan-kids-for-cash-scheme-biden-clemency/
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We shouldn't have ever had the opportunity to vote on Biden. That we did is the reason we're getting Trump again, IMO.
 
AmirIcon said:
So nobody wants to talk about Biden commuting the sentence of a judge who was taking millions of dollars in bribes to throw kids in for profit prisons for a kickback until one of the kids actually committed suicide? Is that because Biden is so moral?

https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/12/13/judge-michael-conahan-kids-for-cash-scheme-biden-clemency/
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Sorry. We don't blindly support politicians. We're not Trump voters.

Biden fucked up quite a bit. I'm not in a cult and can admit it.

Trump voters haven't had an individual thought in almost 8 years, if not longer.
 
AmirIcon said:
So nobody wants to talk about Biden commuting the sentence of a judge who was taking millions of dollars in bribes to throw kids in for profit prisons for a kickback until one of the kids actually committed suicide? Is that because Biden is so moral?

https://www.nydailynews.com/2024/12/13/judge-michael-conahan-kids-for-cash-scheme-biden-clemency/
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He commuted 1500 sentences so I'm guessing there are hundreds like this one if not more that I'd disagree with. Biden is a hawk, a guy with old ties to arms dealers and international lobbyists. A career politician. It's why they ran him against Trump twice...he's the most right wing Dem they had available. Joe knows all the smoke screens of public office. He was clearly only ever going to be the lesser of two evils in a presidential race and nobody I know crowned him the king of morality. He definitely morphed over his career on many topics of controversy. Like half the country I'd love to have a candidate to actually vote for that had a chance to win. I'll just probably remain in the political minority for the rest of my lifetime.
 
This is an interesting take on the meaning / cause of the election results.

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I think it's pretty safe to say that most of the people serving time in prison committed crimes. It's called commuting sentences for a reason. You have 1500 of these to investigate but really, what's the point? We just saw a guy with 34 felony convictions get elected president.
 
riverman said:
I think it's pretty safe to say that most of the people serving time in prison committed crimes. It's called commuting sentences for a reason. You have 1500 of these to investigate but really, what's the point? We just saw a guy with 34 felony convictions get elected president.
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I think taking money to commute sentences should be a crime. Trump does it. Biden does it. Both criminals. One of them enabled a genocide. Both garbage people. People who try to hold up their guy as a beacon of morality are kidding themselves.
 
AmirIcon said:
I think taking money to commute sentences should be a crime. Trump does it. Biden does it. Both criminals. One of them enabled a genocide. Both garbage people. People who try to hold up their guy as a beacon of morality are kidding themselves.
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No politician is a beacon of morality but I've seen no proof of pay for play pardons from the current administration and although Biden profited from arming Israel...Netanyahu is the evil culprit behind the Palestinian genocide, let's not let that become a false equivalency. Biden did fuel the fire with arms but he's not the person who is carrying out genocide in Gaza...that's on Israeli leadership. It's a terrible situation for Palestinians but Hamas also holds a lot of responsibility for triggering the reaction they got. Nobody on the planet should kill innocent civilians...not Hamas, not Israel. I think Israel is guilty of crimes against humanity and should be held accountable. Trump wants to wipe Palestinians off the earth...Biden played both sides against the middle trying to get American hostages freed. After that he sent aid to the region and asked for a cease fire....Netanyahu refused the ceasefire..
 
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riverman said:
No politician is a beacon of morality but I've seen no proof of pay for play pardons from the current administration and although Biden profited from arming Israel...Netanyahu is the evil culprit behind the Palestinian genocide, let's not let that become a false equivalency. Biden did fuel the fire with arms but he's not the person who is carrying out genocide in Gaza...that's on Israeli leadership. It's a terrible situation for Palestinians but Hamas also holds a lot of responsibility for triggering the reaction they got. Nobody on the planet should kill innocent civilians...not Hamas, not Israel. I think Israel is guilty of crimes against humanity and should be held accountable. Trump wants to wipe Palestinians off the earth...Biden played both sides against the middle trying to get American hostages freed. After that he sent aid to the region and asked for a cease fire....Netanyahu refused the ceasefire..
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Both Obama and Bush 1 were able to make Bibi bend to their well. He got out of line and they threatened pulling funds. And guess what? He listened. Sending aid was a ruse used to placate his base. Did you see the photo op a week ago of him holding a book that pertained to the Palestinian struggle? These are actors. Don't fall for that. He's as a garbage person as the next guy. Let's just hope the next guy is better in terms of results.
 
AmirIcon said:
Both Obama and Bush 1 were able to make Bibi bend to their well. He got out of line and they threatened pulling funds. And guess what? He listened. Sending aid was a ruse used to placate his base. Did you see the photo op a week ago of him holding a book that pertained to the Palestinian struggle? These are actors. Don't fall for that. He's as a garbage person as the next guy. Let's just hope the next guy is better in terms of results.
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Bibi wasn't fearful of being removed from power at the time (or losing his freedom). By the time Biden took over Bibi had lost the support of the people and had actually been ousted... only to somehow hold onto power?

He needs war to stay out of prison now. He didn't need that before.
 
Feels lately like a lot of forces (military and commercial) are acting like the end game is here and so are grabbing as much for themselves as they can before the plug gets pulled on them. More intense, nakedly cruel, because all else of value has been taken already… scavengers are picking cleab the skeleton of better days.
 
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