Official "Blame the officials" thread

[PtldPlatypus]

For those who want to insist that the end of our postseason is attributable to biased officiating, conspiracy theories, anti-small-market bias, etc...any chance you would be so kind as to confine it to this location? I have a feeling it will make for a lovely thread.

Thanks.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

Fuck refs!

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Fuck refs!

Sounds like something a Brit would do.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

Fuck the referee's decision making.*

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Fuck the referee's decision making.*

Your first response was much more amusing.

 

[KingSpeed]

Bayless and Roy were both obviously fouled on three point attempts in the 4th quarter and there was no call. Bullshit.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

Phoenix > Portland, simple

no ref bashing here

 

[PHXBlazer1]

fuck this thread and your high and mighty attitude. I'll complain about the crooked refs anywhere I want. Go Blazers!

 

[cdub503]

who has it worse... us? or the mavericks?! id have to say the mavs.....

 

[Natebishop3]

I really don't see how you could argue that there isn't a bias in the NBA. The league lives and dies by its stars.The LeBrons, the Wades, the Kobes... you don't think the NBA wants LeBron and Kobe matched up in the Finals? It's all a fucking show. Every year I forget about all the bullshit from the playoffs, and every year I watch us get raped by the officials. I watched it happen in Houston last year, and I watched it happen in Phoenix this year. I can't think of a single other major sport that is controlled like the NBA is. How often do you see Refs from the NFL completely fuck a team over for an entire game? Sure, they miss a call here or there, but I'm talking a one-sided effort from the officials. Baseball is the same way. Miss call here or there, but not nearly the same influence. It becomes harder and harder to watch this shit every year.

 

[PHXBlazer1]

I really don't see how you could argue that there isn't a bias in the NBA. The league lives and dies by its stars.The LeBrons, the Wades, the Kobes... you don't think the NBA wants LeBron and Kobe matched up in the Finals? It's all a fucking show. Every year I forget about all the bullshit from the playoffs, and every year I watch us get raped by the officials. I watched it happen in Houston last year, and I watched it happen in Phoenix this year. I can't think of a single other major sport that is controlled like the NBA is. How often do you see Refs from the NFL completely fuck a team over for an entire game? Sure, they miss a call here or there, but I'm talking a one-sided effort from the officials. Baseball is the same way. Miss call here or there, but not nearly the same influence. It becomes harder and harder to watch this shit every year.

Agree 100%. Its really the only major sport where the officials can have such a huge impact on the outcome of games without being over-the-top obvious. (although it is that obvious)

 

[EGame]

I only want to blame one player. That is it, just one.

Rudy Fucking Fernendez. What trash.

 

[craigehlo]

If by "officials" you mean Nate McMillan I completely agree.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Blame Nate and KP. Blame Stern and the refs. Blame injuries and bad luck.

At the end of the day, the buck stops with the players.

 

[EGame]

Blame Nate and KP. Blame Stern and the refs. Blame injuries and bad luck.

At the end of the day, the buck stops with the players.

Namely, Rudy.

 

[STOMP]

I thought Portland got the benefit of the ref's whistles tonight... can't blame the calls at all. Amare, Grant Hill and Jason Richardson (a guy I've bagged on many times in his career) were all tremendous tonight. Injuries are a wild card and of course Portland was snakebitten in this regard with 3 of their top 6 talents out or very limited. Given that, the better team won.

hopefully the club fares better with the injury bug next year

STOMP

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

As someone who has been to a major league baseball umpiring school and ump'd HS and American Legion games, one of the basic things you learn is that when something looks wrong- it is wrong. As an example, if I'm working the dish and a player's bat comes thru in slow motion at an odd angle, it hit the catcher's glove whether you hear it or not. We train for that stuff. Accordingly, in the NBA when a shooter like Rudy or Roy or Bayless has a 3-pt shot fall 4-6 feet short the ref should know by instinct they were either swept or their elbow was hit. I counted 4 times one of our shooters was clearly hit on the elbow and the ball fell way too short and the refs (Dulaney 3 of those times) let the foul go. That's very amateurish referring and may have tipped this game and of itself. I had no problem with much of the other no calls as they were letting the teams play, but those and the flops the Suns got easily equaled more than 9 points for the Suns.

Terrible way to lose such an important game.

 

[Denny Crane]

Did the officials force the Blazers to shoot .380 as a team?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Did the officials force the Blazers to shoot .380 as a team?

Who knows? What if we made 9 of the 12 free throws they blew? What if the flops aren't called? What about that ball out of bounds that was clearly off Dudley that the ref decided to give to the Suns and they score? All of that could have changed our shot selection as the Suns got more desperate.

I'm not saying it was a biased game, just can't understand how refs miss easy calls. These are supposed to be our best refs and while I like the way the game was controlled, I just don't understand how they let so much get away.

 

[blue32]

Yeah, the 2-3 fouls on the follow-through's of Bayless and Roy were completely uncalled, and contributed to our poor shot %, and our loss. I also agree with the out of bounds call, IIRC that was a pivotal point in the game where we were making our comeback.

I do blame the ref's for about 10 points, but I really have to say I blame Nate as well. Nate fucking McMillian needs to get up in the fucking Ref's EAR like Alvin fucking Gentry, ALL FUCKING night that jackass was swaying the referees, what's Nate do? Sit there with his fucking arms folded across his chest, calling stupid plays from the bench. All the while our team can't figure out in 6 games how to fucking LOSE a double team on your star players.

We lost tonight because of a healthy dose of incompetent Nate and a dash of shitty cock in ass by the refs.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Yeah, the 2-3 fouls on the follow-through's of Bayless and Roy were completely uncalled, and contributed to our poor shot %, and our loss. I also agree with the out of bounds call, IIRC that was a pivotal point in the game where we were making our comeback.

I do blame the ref's for about 10 points, but I really have to say I blame Nate as well. Nate fucking McMillian needs to get up in the fucking Ref's EAR like Alvin fucking Gentry, ALL FUCKING night that jackass was swaying the referees, what's Nate do? Sit there with his fucking arms folded across his chest, calling stupid plays from the bench. All the while our team can't figure out in 6 games how to fucking LOSE a double team on your star players.

We lost tonight because of a healthy dose of incompetent Nate and a dash of shitty cock in ass by the refs.

I agree about Nate. It's one thing to be a complainer and another to at least be "alerting" the refs. I used to get it from the better coaches. They would have some reason to walk by me and simply let me know to look closer at certain areas of the strike zone they felt I was hurting them with... If it was done properly, I'd pay attention and even ask my partners if they felt I was missing a part of the strike zone or calliing the game unevenly (it's easy to do when one team has a fast ball pitcher and the other a curve ball pitcher...). There is a right way to keepo the refs on track and Nate really doesn't bother with it.

 

[oldguy]

I only want to blame one player. That is it, just one.

Rudy Fucking Fernendez. What trash.

??

Rudy played better than any of the starters last night.

Go Blazers

 

[oldguy]

The refs didn't cause the Blazers to lose last night. The starters played badly, plain and simple.

Hopefully, next year the team is healthy at playoff time. Healthy, this team has as good a shot at the rings as any.

Go Blazers

 

[Mediocre Man]

I hope next year the officials don't make us play ISO basketball. Those Bastards!!!!

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

I dont blame the refs for us losing the series, but they definitly had an impact. They killed so many of our comeback attempts by calling ticky tack fouls. Without a doubt they gave PHX many calls that they didnt give us when the situation was reversed. The no call on Roy's 3 pointer in the 4th last night is a prime example. It also drives me crazy how the all the refs sat and listened to the PHX coaches and Amare's crying after every call and during every time out. Maybe our coaches need to learn from it and ride the refs more.

 

[MARIS61]

As was Rudy to start off that string of momentum-killing non-calls to give the Suns the win and the series.

Don't blame the refs, they simply follow orders like the Gestapo simply followed orders.

This "league" needs a federal investigation every bit as much as the banking industry does.

Was anyone in doubt who would "win" the Spurs/Mavs series? Of course not.

 

[MARIS61]

Did the officials force the Blazers to shoot .380 as a team?

Yes. Uncalled shooting fouls, of which their were many, count against your fg%.

Missed shots caused by fouls which are called do not count against your fg%.

Also, the ft's (over a dozen) would have changed the score and stopped several breakaway baskets by the Suns.

Just the 3 3pt fouls not called would have given us the win we earned last night, and the 5 or 6 times Roy and LaMarcus were mauled would have had us leading most of the 2nd half.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Fuck TNT too for not having the balls to show the replays. It was obvious they were instructed to ignor the bad calls. I rewinded the bayless shot myself and was horrified how a guy could come up 5 feet short on a 3 pt shot at a crucial time int he 4th only to have Collins (Who I love as an announcer) saing "it may have been tipped"? Are you kidding me Doug? Show the FUCKING REPLAY you bastards! I wanted to know for sure. And OH yeah....it was an obvious foul. But because it was Bayless shooting...........

Having said that......Phoenix played awesome and deserved to win. Richardson looks like his old GS days. Unbelievable.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Fuck TNT too for not having the balls to show the replays. It was obvious they were instructed to ignor the bad calls. I rewinded the bayless shot myself and was horrified how a guy could come up 5 feet short on a 3 pt shot at a crucial time int he 4th only to have Collins (Who I love as an announcer) saing "it may have been tipped"? Are you kidding me Doug? Show the FUCKING REPLAY you bastards! I wanted to know for sure. And OH yeah....it was an obvious foul. But because it was Bayless shooting...........

Having said that......Phoenix played awesome and deserved to win. Richardson looks like his old GS days. Unbelievable.

I was also miffed TNT refused to show replays when it was clear it would embarras the refs and the league.

This game reminded me of game 6 of the Kings/lakers series 5 or 6 years ago. In the second half the refs melted down and just screwed Sacto into the floor sideways. Pretty much the same thing happened last night. It was a melt down by the refs.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Mavs' Cuban: 'I'm not so proud of NBA'

I hope Mark elaborates on this a little more. Because I think he knows there is a problem.