Official cut Blake, Travis, Frye, and Ruffin thread.

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That 16 million dollars is looking reaaaaally good about now. :devilwink:
 
you were thinking ruffin was traded as a long term prospect? :P
 
I was against it...but now reconsidering seeing how shit Blake and Trav have been. I love the guys...but jesus.
 
Blake has looked exactly like I thought he would (great backup, mediocre starter) but Trav has pulled one helluva vanishing act.

I was thinking use them as players in a lopsided trade rather than cut them outright, but 16 million of cap room can still be used to just take a player back. How does trading for Tayshaun Prince, Kirk Hinrich and a backup big like Brandon Bass strike people?
 
Pritchslap Madness said:
Does Chicago trade Kirk with the success they are having so far in the playoffs.
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If they want to keep Ben Gordon, then absolutely. Otherwise Kirk ends up being a 9 million a year backup to Derrick Rose. Let 'em have Blake and they get a reserve point guard who makes reserve money and we get a starter who is an upgrade defensively, nearly equal in shooting ability, is more athletic, stronger and can actually get into the lane and distribute.
 
wait..what? Travis was the 2nd biggest reason we were in the game..Blake on the other hand..either offer him a backup role, or adios
 
I'd really love a Kirk Hinrich right now.

This thread just reminds me why I wish and wanted to have Outlaw traded last year. His value was sky high and now I don't think it'll reach that level again.
 
I wouldn't be pissed if we let them all go, but we better know we are getting a top-notch, all-star PG with that cap space.
 
Tince said:
I wouldn't be pissed if we let them all go, but we better know we are getting a top-notch, all-star PG with that cap space.
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It doesn't have to be an all-star, but it does need to be an above average starter.
 
I'm pretty okay with a starting point guard that plays good defense, can hit down the open three, and doesn't choke in the final minutes of games and doesn't dump it off to centers with no range at 20 feet with one second left on the shot clock.
 
Nikolokolus said:
It doesn't have to be an all-star, but it does need to be an above average starter.
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I disagree. You are giving up a quality backup PG and a SF/PF scorer with good contracts. You don't just take back Rafer Alston.
 
The problem is you don't really know what you could get with the space until after you make the cuts. Blake and Outlaw are great backups. With the slow pace and good defense of the rockets most of our team has looked worse then they actually are. I'd love to snag an upgrade at PG/SF but I don't think you can take the risk of losing Blake/Outlaw for nothing.

I mean Raefs contract was as good as cap space from a trade perspective and we got nothing out of it.
 
Draco's Evil Sidekick said:
The problem is you don't really know what you could get with the space until after you make the cuts. Blake and Outlaw are great backups. With the slow pace and good defense of the rockets most of our team has looked worse then they actually are. I'd love to snag an upgrade at PG/SF but I don't think you can take the risk of losing Blake/Outlaw for nothing.

I mean Raefs contract was as good as cap space from a trade perspective and we got nothing out of it.
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Spot on! Repped!
 
Lets create a Blake, Travis, Frye and Ruffin poll on which player(s) should we cut next year. I have my vote for Travis being cut just because his ability is limited and he certainly can't play under pressure in a playoff series. Rudy was the main one who NATE should have given more minutes to as a priority.
 
Fuck it. Blow the PG spot up, its stupid. Start Sergio 40 games next season, see what happens. Put BRex as the back-up and call it good. If shit gets out of control, play Rudy/Roy like they're doing now in the play offs.

Sink or swim....... we also need to get Martel back.
 
are you kidding??????? Blake has played some good ball this series. I mean with your logic maybe we should trade mr turnovers himself Brandon Roy since he had 4 In the 4th quarter when it mattered,
 
Tince said:
I disagree. You are giving up a quality backup PG and a SF/PF scorer with good contracts. You don't just take back Rafer Alston.
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That's not Rafer Alston (above average starter). I'm talking Ramon Sessions, Kirk Hinrich, Andre Miller, et al.
 
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Draco's Evil Sidekick said:
The problem is you don't really know what you could get with the space until after you make the cuts. Blake and Outlaw are great backups. With the slow pace and good defense of the rockets most of our team has looked worse then they actually are. I'd love to snag an upgrade at PG/SF but I don't think you can take the risk of losing Blake/Outlaw for nothing.

I mean Raefs contract was as good as cap space from a trade perspective and we got nothing out of it.
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I agree you don't have to cut them. Make a lopsided trade and get the player you want using one of their contracts and your cap space to do a one for one trade.
 
IS there any doubt that LaFrentz, Ruffin, Randolph & Frye are gone regardless?

IMO the other 2 players who SHOULD go or Outlaw and Sergio....

I'd keep Blake around, I think he could be a good b\u, it is Pritchard's fault that he is our starting PG....Hopefully he rectifies that in the offseason...
 
keep travis and then trade him. he should have decent value. keep blake for back up pg
 
Um, it's Nate's decision that Blake is the starting PG. Unless you're saying that Nate can't handle playing the best people in the best positions, and relies on his "crutch" guys, so KP ships them out so Nate can't abuse/misuse them anymore (ahem, JarrettJack, ahem). In which case I agree, it's KP's fault.

I don't like Blake on this team as backup PG. He's our 3rd-best SG (maybe he'll be 4th next year if JB breaks out even a bit). I'm not saying to cut him--reliable PGs w/high A/TO ratio will always have a home in the league--but leaving him on our bench is an excuse for Nate to start him.
 
Everybody is in such a hurry around here. Slow down. Relax. Blake will be supplanted at PG when somebody out plays him. It is that simple. The reason that Bayless never got PT as the season wound down is the fact that he showed he can only produce when he gets major minutes. When ever he played spot minutes he just didn't do that great. The facts are there were only spot minutes available going into the end of the season and the playoffs, so Sergio got the minutes.

Going into next season, I expect the starting PG spot to be up for grabs.
 
I really couldn't care less about how Blake, Outlaw, Ruffin, or Frye are playing right now. I want the 16 million in cap space.
 
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