Game Thread Official Kanter Vs. Adams

Welcome to our community

Be a part of something great, join today!

Register Log in

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Orion Bailey said:
Well , I officially stand corrected and welcome my Crow. Kanter has held his own and looks better than Adams and has not been a liability for us.

I was wrong.
Click to expand...
I don’t necessarily think you’re wrong. I just think Donovan is a complete buffoon who doesn’t know how to take advantage of Kanter’s defensive deficiencies. Unfortunately I think at some point we will be confronted by a coach who is going to make Kanter unplayable. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen until at least the WCF though. :emotions:
 
https://newsok.com/article/5629437/enes-kanter-has-held-his-own-against-steven-adams

The Thunder played four games against Portland in the regular season and swept them all. Here are Adams’ numbers in the regular season against Portland compared to the playoffs:

Minutes: season 36.0, playoffs 32.5.

Points: season 10.25, playoffs 12.3.

Field goals: season 20-of-37, .541; playoffs 23-of-34, .676.

Foul shots: season 1-of-2; playoffs 3-of-7.

Rebounds: season 7.0, playoffs 8.0.

Turnovers: season 1.0, 2.25.

Plus/minus: season plus-3, playoffs minus-38.
Click to expand...
 
brooklynballer said:
I don’t necessarily think you’re wrong. I just think Donovan is a complete buffoon who doesn’t know how to take advantage of Kanter’s defensive deficiencies. Unfortunately I think at some point we will be confronted by a coach who is going to make Kanter unplayable. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen until at least the WCF though. :emotions:
Click to expand...
No, his argument was that specifically playing the Thunder was the worst matchup for us because both Donovan and Adams know everything about Kanter and will exploit things that other teams wouldn't. He was definitely wrong about that. :ygrin:
 
hoopsjock said:
No, his argument was that specifically playing the Thunder was the worst matchup for us because both Donovan and Adams know everything about Kanter and will exploit things that other teams wouldn't. He was definitely wrong about that. :ygrin:
Click to expand...

Hey man. I called myself out. I didnt know we were playing pigpile!!!
 
Adams makes $25M a year and I’m not sure how much more valuable he is to a team than Kanter, nevermind Nurkic. Donovan has underutilized Adams offensively, but Portland is going right after him in the pick and roll. If they keep doing it, OKC will be forced to play Noel instead, who Kanter can eat against in the post and the boards. Noel is also a good matchup for Collins since Noel doesn’t have Adams’ size.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Well , I officially stand corrected and welcome my Crow. Kanter has held his own and looks better than Adams and has not been a liability for us.

I was wrong.
Click to expand...

Me too. Going into the series I was convinced Adams was the superior all-around player and that Kanter would have to go 20/10 every game just to off-set his poor defense. Didn't work out that way, did it!
 
Orion Bailey said:
Well , I officially stand corrected and welcome my Crow. Kanter has held his own and looks better than Adams and has not been a liability for us.

I was wrong.
Click to expand...
I thought Kanter's defense was bad last night in the first quarter. I didn't notice anything glaringly bad after that.

Overall I'm happy with Kanter's playoff performance. We sure as hell need him since Nurk is out.

Imagine if we had both of them healthy. Le Sigh
 
mook said:
This Thunder fan does a fantastic post on this subject, and includes a really good video.

Even if you are not into this topic, I encourage you to watch the video to just hear the utter despair in the guy's voice. It's pretty funny.

TBH, I think the real revelation has been Zach Collins. He just looks so much better out there on the defensive end than Kanter. I'm hoping the big adjustments we make in the next game are to (obviously) eliminate Evan Turner's minutes and give Zach some more run at the 5.
Click to expand...

Haha. The guy sounded like Eeyore.

His main thesis is that OKC is shooting too early in the shot clock, then he whines that the refs should be calling defensive three seconds on Kanter. But in all but 'maybe' the first clip where he says Kanter should be called for three seconds, Kanter isn't even in the key for three seconds before the shot goes up.

Also in his critique of shots early in the clock, and especially complaining about Westbrick, most of those are good shots. Dame and CJ routinely take, and make, tougher shots than those, regardless of the clock. So does Curry, and sometimes Aminu.

My biggest take-away from those clips is that Kanter is doing a fantastic job boxing out Adams, and whoever, on defensive rebounds.
 
Last edited:
BBert said:
Haha. The guy sounded like Eeyore.

His main thesis is that OKC is shooting too early in the shot clock, then he whines that the refs should be calling defensive three seconds on Kanter. But in all but 'maybe' the first clip where he says Kanter should be called for three seconds, Kanter isn't even in the key for three seconds before the shot goes up.

Also in his critique of shots early in the clock, and especially complaining about Westbrick, most of those are good shots. Dame and CJ routinely take, and make, tougher shots than those, regardless of the clock. So does Curry, and sometimes Aminu.

My biggest take-away from those clips is that Kanter is doing a fantastic job boxing out Adams, and whoever, on defensive rebounds.
Click to expand...
As a fan, I have empathy for him and other OKC fans. At the end of the day fans just want there teams to win and as a Blazer fan I know well what it feels like when the teams I cheer for lose. At least he’s been classy about it.
 
mook said:
This Thunder fan does a fantastic post on this subject, and includes a really good video.

Even if you are not into this topic, I encourage you to watch the video to just hear the utter despair in the guy's voice. It's pretty funny.

TBH, I think the real revelation has been Zach Collins. He just looks so much better out there on the defensive end than Kanter. I'm hoping the big adjustments we make in the next game are to (obviously) eliminate Evan Turner's minutes and give Zach some more run at the 5.
Click to expand...

Lol cmon man, this video is baddd.

*complains about Ferguson shooting a wide open 3 with 15 on shot clock*
*applauds Grant for shooting a wide open 3 with 15 on the shot clock*

This dude made me feel better about my videos haha.
 
Last edited:
I could disect that video into oblivion if I wanted to.
 
I think Kantor has done a very good job for us as a back up center. He does what he does offensively and has picked it up defensively while the entire team has rallied behind him and picked it up defensively. Nurk going down when he did was a huge blow to us but it might have been what we needed to wake up and shift gears into the playoffs.
 
HailBlazers said:
But could you get two shots off in the NCAA?
Click to expand...
Considering I've gotten off multiple shots against 7-footers from the JC National Champion...

Oh wait, they get factual logic confused with cockiness. Damn!
 
Scalma said:
e is to a team than Kanter, nevermind Nurkic. Donovan has underutilized Adams offensively, but Portland is going right after him in the pick and roll. If they keep doing it, OKC will be forced to play Noel instead, who Kanter can eat against in the post and the boards. Noel is also a good matchup for Collins since Noel doesn’t have Adams’ size.
Click to expand...
BBert said:
Haha. The guy sounded like Eeyore.

His main thesis is that OKC is shooting too early in the shot clock, then he whines that the refs should be calling defensive three seconds on Kanter. But in all but 'maybe' the first clip where he says Kanter should be called for three seconds, Kanter isn't even in the key for three seconds before the shot goes up.

Also in his critique of shots early in the clock, and especially complaining about Westbrick, most of those are good shots. Dame and CJ routinely take, and make, tougher shots than those, regardless of the clock. So does Curry, and sometimes Aminu.

My biggest take-away from those clips is that Kanter is doing a fantastic job boxing out Adams, and whoever, on defensive rebounds.
Click to expand...
"Lower the volume of early shot clock 3s. More patient basketball with drives into the paint will create opportunities for Portland to Foul."

Russ will get right on that, lol.
 
I have said this before but defensively Adams is average at best. I never noticed until last year when the Blazers were playing the Thunder in a national game and one of the announcers (I want to say Hubie Brown) pointed out how slow reacting Adams was on several plays. I then started looking for it and sure enough he was right.
 
BonesJones said:
Considering I've gotten off multiple shots against 7-footers from the JC National Champion...

Oh wait, they get factual logic confused with cockiness. Damn!
Click to expand...

You cant get two shots off on me!(ones that actually hit the rim). WTH you talkin bout?
 
Recently, there was a story about how Sen. Ron Wyden was taking up Enes' cause in so far as his international status.
Has anything come of it?
Just wondering, in case Blazers need to go to Toronto or something...
 
GM 5 Half

Kanter 5 PTS, 9 REB, 2 AST, 1 BLK
Adams 8 PTS, 2 REB, 2 BLK, 1 AST
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top