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Detroit is still probing the market for a veteran guard, league sources tell @TheVertical. - WOJ

Who would they give up for Henderson?
 
Detroit is still probing the market for a veteran guard, league sources tell @TheVertical. - WOJ

Who would they give up for Henderson?

I read that but I never saw if he meant PG or SG. I am guessing PG based on their Roster.
 
Detroit is still probing the market for a veteran guard, league sources tell @TheVertical. - WOJ

Who would they give up for Henderson?
Well looking at their roster post trade, maybe Morris or Baynes. But realistically they're gonna try to turn some combo of Meeks, Tolliver, and a second rounder for a decent guard. Doubt it happens
 
Who do you trust more? Him or Neil?

I'll go with NO.

Neil. But the circumstances may have changed. Maybe in July he thought we had to have Monroe's offense. But possibly now with our surprising offense, he might think we need a defensive center more. People keep saying we have to have a post game. How much does GS get from their center? I like the way the offense flows now. We just need our forwards to attack the basket more effectively and we will be just fine.
 
Joe Johnson is a bogus rumor. The twitter account is bogus
That one probably is. Not the first time we have been linked to Joe Johnson this year though.

Not saying I expect a move but I also do think they are talking to us.
 
How much cap space is Orlando going to have this summer, more than us?
 
The problem with the summer is that everyone will have cap space and it will be greatly devalued as a commodity.
Yeah, capspace for a team like POR can be a problem because we have a lot of trouble attracting big name FA's, I mean Greg Monroe chose the Bucks over us! and who was our last FA signing? I think we have to use it smartly and it may be better trying to use it now at the deadline if we can, then this summer when almost everyone will have tons of it and be overpaying and there won't be that many quality FA's.
 
I actually think Harrison barnes would seriously consider Portland.
 
I actually think Harrison barnes would seriously consider Portland.
any reason to think that? and I have my doubts he is worth the max which I think will start at 22-23 mil per give or take a bit, and he is an RFA and not a UFA, seems improbable ot me
 
The problem with the summer is that everyone will have cap space and it will be greatly devalued as a commodity.
yeah sure but we'll have more of that devalued money than other teams will...also a lot of max contracts coming up for the luxury tax teams...we're in good position..the change affects everyone the same but the playing field is not the same
 
I feel like if you assess talent and trajectory and both are fairly even then you stay with what you've got as long as they are a good fit for the system. It's for this reason I would choose Crabbe over Barnes.

For what it's worth, Barnes has been solidified in his role for a lot longer than Crabbe has been in his.
 
yeah sure but we'll have more of that devalued money than other teams will...also a lot of max contracts coming up for the luxury tax teams...we're in good position..the change affects everyone the same but the playing field is not the same
but tell me, who was the last big FA signing POR had and how many players left last summer because of $$$ and where they wanted to play while we had capspace?
 
Yeah, capspace for a team like POR can be a problem because we have a lot of trouble attracting big name FA's, I mean Greg Monroe chose the Bucks over us! and who was our last FA signing? I think we have to use it smartly and it may be better trying to use it now at the deadline if we can, then this summer when almost everyone will have tons of it and be overpaying and there won't be that many quality FA's.
Our last free agent signings were Aminu and Davis
 
With 90% of the league potentially having max cap space I could see Meyers and Harkless getting over $10 million per season; while Hendo and Crabbe get close to the max.

It sounds ridiculous at first but consider the talk about Tobias Harris, who basically lost his starting spot for a lottery team and Greg Monroe, who again is struggling as a starter on a lottery team. Both are having these issues after signing max $16+ million per year contracts, and both are considered underpaid players with value going forward!

Would've though there is no chance Wes with an Achillies tear or Kanter who was given away from Utah got max deals but thats what they got last summer, and that was before any historic cap increase.

Factor in CJ and Plumlee being eligible for extensions, if we want to keep most our young guys we may not have the long term salary space it seems as though we'll have at first glance.
 
but tell me, who was the last big FA signing POR had and how many players left last summer because of $$$ and where they wanted to play while we had capspace?
But it makes no sense to mention guys who left for money when we made the choice not to offer them a contract.

Hibbert was a big free agent who was on his way to accept an offer from us. As a rfa, he was going to get matched, but a rfa accepting an offer is still someone willing to come.

Mentioning Monroe choosing Milwaukee also makes no sense to me. He went because he felt at the time, with our mass exodus and everyone predicting am awful season, that Milwaukee gave him his best chance of winning. He also spurned NY. Players are generally looking for $$, winning potential, and fit.
 
Our last free agent signings were Aminu and Davis
Come on Riverman I said "big" signing? While I think these were good value signings for rotation players I am talking about a REAL difference maker, a clear star, tell me when and who. It does not happen often.
 
any reason to think that? and I have my doubts he is worth the max which I think will start at 22-23 mil per give or take a bit, and he is an RFA and not a UFA, seems improbable ot me

Stotts system which gives players freedom, his relationship with Lillard, and culture fit Olshey is prioritizing. Would not be surprised one bit if he's the main target and Olshey offers him the max. Don't see GS matching that at all.
 

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