Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new low.

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"We're smashing a record that smashed a record," center scientist Walt Meier said.

In the 1980s, he said, summer sea ice would cover an area a bit smaller than the Lower 48 states. Now it is about half that.

A report from the National Snow and Ice Data Center shows the Arctic's melting ice is resulting in the lowest sea ice levels since satellites started tracking the measurements in 1979. The difference between this year's low and that of 2007 is 293,000 square miles, about the size of Texas.



WHAT PART OF HOTTEST MONTH EVER DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
According to NOAA July 2012 was the hottest month in the contiguous USA since recording began more than a century ago. The average temp was 77.6 degrees a full 3.3 degrees warmer than the 20th century norm. This spring was the warmest on record by 5.2 degrees
WHAT PART OF HOTTEST YEAR EVER DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
The warmest 12 month period ever recorded in the US the 14th consecutive year with above average temperatures
WHAT PART OF MELTING ICE CAPS DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
An enormous mass of ice, four times the size of Manhattan broke off from northern Greenland and slipped into the sea the biggest in 50 years. On July 8, 2012 40% of Greenland’s ice sheet’s surface had thawed –a typical summer. But four days later in an extreme melt event almost all the ice sheet had thawed an event that hasn’t occurred in at least 150 years.
The Arctic ice cap reaching a record low volume has lost as much as 40% of its area in summer in just 30 years.
WHAT PART OF EXTREME WEATHER DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
The deadly European heat wave of 2003, which led to thousands of deaths
The fiery Russian and Middle East heat wave of 2010, which led to thousands of deaths
The catastrophic droughts in Texas and Oklahoma in 2011resulting the largest fires in AZ. History
The fire season is now increased by 78 days.
Mega floods displacing millions around the world The number of weather disasters has tripled in the last 20
years
Record snowfall in 2010 followed by record rainfall and floods and then the worst drought in 50 years in 2012.
WHAT PART OF ESCALATING FOOD PRICES DUE TO EXTREME WEATHER DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
Floods, fires, drought taking food crops off the global market a 5.2 billion lose in TX in 2011
Drought this year on the Midwest the corn crop all but ruined while the USDA predicts a 3 to 5 percent increase on everything from cereal to steak, some economists believe price hikes will come closer to 10 percent.
WHAT PART OF ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
Hotter oceans are making corals pale and sick 95% of the world’s reefs are likely to be severely damaged
WHAT PART OF A MILITARY INTEL REPORT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
Drought, floods and a lack of fresh water may cause significant global instability and conflict in the coming decades, as developing countries scramble to meet demand from exploding populations while dealing with the effects of climate change, U.S. intelligence agencies said in a report released March 2012.
An assessment reflecting the joint judgment of federal intelligence agencies says the risk of water issues causing wars in the next 10 years is minimal even as they create tensions within and between states and threaten to disrupt national and global food markets. But beyond 2022, it says the use of water as a weapon of war or a tool of terrorism will become more likely, particularly in South Asia, the Middle East and North Africa. (Nuclear armed Pakistan has already been destabilized by severe flooding caused by climate change)

Man made climate change or not, the fact is we need a world wide environmental revolution to support the world's growing population.
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

Man can dam a river but only god can damn a planet.
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

Brian already posted it
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

that's like sooooo 30 seconds ago, Max.
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

Man can dam a river but only god can damn a planet.

And only a SlyPokerDogging SlyPokerDog would deliberately add theology to an already volatile thread topic. :D
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

And only a SlyPokerDogging SlyPokerDog would deliberately add theology to an already volatile thread topic. :D

Amen brother!
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

So the ice is actually expanding, just in different areas? LOL
 
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Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

To me, all this stuff still boils down to good stewardship. While I don't necessarily get caught up in the ins and outs of so-called global warming, I still try to be responsible about the ways I go about my life and business....in this case, as it relates to my individual carbon footprint. (conserving energy, becoming more cognizant of various items that I purchase, generating less waste, etc.. etc.)
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

To me, all this stuff still boils down to good stewardship. While I don't necessarily get caught up in the ins and outs of so-called global warming, I still try to be responsible about the ways I go about my life and business....in this case, as it relates to my individual carbon footprint. (conserving energy, becoming more cognizant of various items that I purchase, generating less waste, etc.. etc.)

Says the guy who drives 400 miles a week just to bang his girlfriend.
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

"We're smashing a record that smashed a record," center scientist Walt Meier said.

In the 1980s, he said, summer sea ice would cover an area a bit smaller than the Lower 48 states. Now it is about half that.

A report from the National Snow and Ice Data Center shows the Arctic's melting ice is resulting in the lowest sea ice levels since satellites started tracking the measurements in 1979. The difference between this year's low and that of 2007 is 293,000 square miles, about the size of Texas.






Man made climate change or not, the fact is we need a world wide environmental revolution to support the world's growing population.

Fine. Stop driving and stop using heating and air conditioning at home. do your part. stop using electricity, stop watching television.
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

sea ice melting should actually lower the sea levels, because the ice is expanded when frozen and underwater and displacing the seas volume

everyones beach front property will actually be a mile inland, and offshore oil rigs will be a thing of the past
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

Says the guy who drives 400 miles a week just to bang his girlfriend.

not for long. :wub:
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

Says the guy who drives 400 miles a week just to bang his girlfriend.

I'll compare my monthly living expenses to yours any day of the week. In fact, you'd be amazed by how practically I live my life. I'm about as low-cost, low-maintenance as they come.....without being a cheapskate, that is. :pimp:

Oh, and all this was before I met my so-called sugar mama. :lol:
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

Fine. Stop driving and stop using heating and air conditioning at home. do your part. stop using electricity, stop watching television.

Nope, all we have to do is change the conversation.
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

I'll compare my monthly living expenses to yours any day of the week. In fact, you'd be amazed by how practically I live my life. I'm about as low-cost, low-maintenance as they come.....without being a cheapskate, that is. :pimp:

Oh, and all this was before I met my so-called sugar mama. :lol:

I'll take your word for it, ABM, but all of those heat-generating bedroom activities will have to be curtailed. ;)
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

I have little doubt that climate changes all the time. The question for me is, how much do we impact it?
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

Nope, all we have to do is change the conversation.

Ok, answer this question:

If I give you a dial that allows you to magically set Earth's temperature to any temperature you want, where will you set it?
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

Ok, answer this question:

If I give you a dial that allows you to magically set Earth's temperature to any temperature you want, where will you set it?

100 degrees celsius and we have ourselves an oceanwide crab boil
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

Says the guy who drives 400 miles a week just to bang his girlfriend.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

It's natural.

There's no such thing as global warming.

[/SarahPalin]
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

You, of all people, are a first-hand witness of the earnestness and extent of my frugality and good stewardship. :innocent:
 
Re: Oh it's natural, so let's not do anything about it. Arctic sea ice reaches new l

I have little doubt that climate changes all the time. The question for me is, how much do we impact it?

Agreed. However, IMHO the potential cost of waiting to determine a definitive answer before acting is too great.

Ok, answer this question: If I give you a dial that allows you to magically set Earth's temperature to any temperature you want, where will you set it?

It's much more than just temperature, its the overall degradation of our natural world and the destruction of CO2 abosorbing mechanisms. Although, my answer to your question would be Pre-Industrial revolution levels.
 

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