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Vice President Joseph Biden on Tuesday forcefully rejected the argument, made most notably by his predecessor Dick Cheney, that the United States is less safe under President Obama's leadership.

Asked by CNN's Gloria Borger whether Cheney's comments were "out of line," Biden said no, "but he is dead wrong."

"[T]he last administration left us in a weaker posture than we've been any time since World War II," Biden argued. "Less regarded in the world, stretched more thinly than we ever have been in the past, two wars under way, virtually no respect in entire parts of the world."

The Vice President then went a step further, stating that the country is actually safer now than it was during the Bush presidency. "I guarantee you we are safer today, our interests are more secure today than they were any time during the eight years... We are more safe. We are more secure. Our interests are more secure, not just at home, but around the world. We are rebuilding America's ability to lead."

Later, Biden recalled a point he had made to George W. Bush about his administration's foreign policy errors. "I remember President Bush saying to me one time in the Oval Office, and he was a great guy, enjoyed being with him. He said to me, he said, well, Joe, he said, I'm a leader. And I said, Mr. President, turn around and look behind you. No one's following. People are beginning to follow the United States again as a consequence of our administration."
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It seems like you'll do anything to try to ridicule the Obama administration. You're grasping at straws, and this thread is one.
 
We must be safer, since we're safe from those Somali pirates.
 
Do you seriously feel any unsafer?
 
I don't feel safer. Yeah, I feel somewhat less safe, though I see a lot of Obama's policies making us far less safe.
 
I'm not saying I feel safer, but I don't feel any unsafer, either.

I don't think Obama is the kind of guy who will let some kind of attack go without consequences. If some one does attack us, I really believe he'll answer that attack with military force.
 
Revenge means we suffered some sort of attack. No thanks.
 
Revenge means we suffered some sort of attack. No thanks.

So it's better to start wars without just cause, aka Bush's Iraq invasion?

Tell me then, specifically, what policy of Obama has made you feel unsafer?
 
Cuts in military spending. Closing Guantanimo. Scuttling missile defense. The naivete of thinking you can negotiate with terrorists.
 
He is naive sometimes, at the same time I don't want to be in superfluous wars or waste lots of money in a long occupation/mission like Iraq. Spreading ourselves thin in various fronts and with our economy the way it is, we need to be more judicious with our military action. Also I am not sure I concur with his new assignment in Afghanistan and sending so many troops over there. I can understand getting some tyrants out of power, but I don't like the massively expensive occupations/quagmires that occur afterward.
 
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It seems like you'll do anything to try to ridicule the Obama administration. You're grasping at straws, and this thread is one.

Haha..I don't have to grasp at straws, nor do I have to try to ridicule the Obama administration. He is doing it all on his own. So far he has literally done absolutely nothing positive with this country in any way shape or form. You know there's a problem when Rachel Maddow calls Obama Bush Part 2.

Wake up, it's obvious.
 
Old thread, but seriously???

How are we unsafer? How are we more safer?

I don't believe there is such thing. It's not like Obama is inviting anyone in to attack. It's not like Bush was either. Actually it seems like they have pretty much an agreement on everything except for torture and Guantanamo Bay. I don't think that was keeping me safe and your kidding yourselves if you don't think torture would be used or has been used in the past assuming their intelligence suggest that a threat will occur.

Of course that seldom happens and that's why I don't think about it.
 

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