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WHL is still around and thriving. With a portland and seattle rivalry!
No dude, I’m talking real pro hockey. Back when the NHL only had 6-8 teams, all of them east of the Mississippi. The old WHL was just a skosh under the NHL in terms of talent, with players who were either on the way down or were just a half step slower than the NHL guys. Adult men, not teenage kids. Where the players stuck around for years (if not lifetimes) because they loved the city and allowed bonds with the fans to build. Where they became part of the local fabric. Comparing yesteryear’s WHL with today’s WHL is completely apple to oranges. Different animals. Learn history, then post....FAMS

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Ohtani signed with the Angels. Wow, they may end up having the best 1/2 punch since Mays/McCovey. Trout is the literally the becoming the second coming of Mantle. That will be some serious Juju.

fuck....
 
Dipoto makes Olshey look like a good gm.

At least Dipoto takes chances. Seattle would have been a playoff team last year if they hadn't run into so many injuries. Olshey is like a diamond dealer with a shit ton of miscut gems quality convincing himself they are worth something.
 
Heard that the front office in Seattle is devastated. They thought they had him.

I was sure he would go to Seattle.
 
I don't see the Mariners ever making the World Series let alone winning it. That is the worst run organization in sports.
 
Because both cities view themselves as separate entities in regards to sports affiliation. But don't see each other equals. Seahawks fans don't care about regionaliam because it's the NFL. But where the NBA is concerned,, most Seattle fans won't bring themselves to cheer for their little brothers. Where baseball is concerned, Portland probably deserves a shot soon. The Oakland stadium deal just fell apart. But critics will say, "Portland is too close to Seattle. Not enough corporate firms. The Mariners will sue over loss of broadcasting rights." And then you throw in the Ducks/Huskies, Timbers/Sounders rivalries and there is just enough of a chasm for regular dysfunction. Seattle is beautiful but we aren't just a suburb of it where sports are concerned. People who live here and are fans of pro sports, don't have to pick the Mariners by default. Tha'ts a mistake that people don't make as much any more. Since Portland international profile has raised so much. But it is still there.
I understand all that, but to hate the city in a deeper level than that is strange.
 
This feels like some Blazer shit.
 
I understand all that, but to hate the city in a deeper level than that is strange.

Not really.... LA/SF, NY/Boston, Manchester/Liverpool, Comlumbus/Ann Arbor.... it ain't that strange.
 
No dude, I’m talking real pro hockey. Back when the NHL only had 6-8 teams, all of them east of the Mississippi. The old WHL was just a skosh under the NHL in terms of talent, with players who were either on the way down or were just a half step slower than the NHL guys. Adult men, not teenage kids. Where the players stuck around for years (if not lifetimes) because they loved the city and allowed bonds with the fans to build. Where they became part of the local fabric. Comparing yesteryear’s WHL with today’s WHL is completely apple to oranges. Different animals. Learn history, then post....FAMS

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Ha. to be fair, the WHL, at least up until 2000 (when I really kind of stopped watching it) was always a step below the NHL. But it was more of a mix of amateur and pro players... but there was definitely their share of elite pro players that came right out of the WHL. lol.
 
Vancouver. I feel like those who hate Seattle choose to.
I absolutely do not hate Seattle as a city. In fact, I like it very much and consider it second to Portland as a place to live. Seattle is our Pacific Northwest (younger) cousin and it’s us and them against the rest of the country in that regard. Alone or together, we rock. But its’ proximity does not mean I should be expected to root for their cheesy assed teams. I have more pride than that. But again, Seattle is a great city. BG and I are heading that way on Sunday for a couple of days and we’re looking forward to a kickass time. So when I say “fuck Seattle”, I’m really saying “fuck the Mariners, Sea Chickens, Sounders, et al........
 
I'll say one thing...the fanbase the Mariners has is impressive...they fill that ballpark...I think They could use a new coach and bullpen
 
I'll say one thing...the fanbase the Mariners has is impressive...they fill that ballpark...I think They could use a new coach and bullpen

'They never fill that ballpark unless it's a big giveaway... that park is almost always 13-20k. lol.
 
'They never fill that ballpark unless it's a big giveaway... that park is almost always 13-20k. lol.
I've seen a lot of their games last couple years and there's an impressive turnout....I've not seen a lot of empty seats
 
I've seen a lot of their games last couple years and there's an impressive turnout....I've not seen a lot of empty seats

lol. I've watched a majority of their games and it's pitiful. Even if they had the dumb Felix stuff, it's straight up sad.
 
I'll say one thing...the fanbase the Mariners has is impressive...they fill that ballpark...I think They could use a new coach and bullpen
Gotta disagree Riv. Their attendance is pathetic. When the Giants play up there every three years the place is a sea of black and orange. Stren is right, there has to be a big swag giveaway to get local fannies in the seats. Buncha bandwagoneers......and it’s a shame because that is a beautiful ballpark. If only we could move it down here....
 
Gotta disagree Riv. Their attendance is pathetic. When the Giants play up there every three years the place is a sea of black and orange. Stren is right, there has to be a big swag giveaway to get local fannies in the seats. Buncha bandwagoneers......and it’s a shame because that is a beautiful ballpark. If only we could move it down here....
I've honestly watched 2 games a week for 2.5 seasons at work and not once did I think...wow...empty seats ....now I watched Tampa Bay play a homegame and that's the first thing I saw...empty stadium.....I'm not comparing them with the Giants or Dodgers...those are big population centers
 
Gotta disagree Riv. Their attendance is pathetic. When the Giants play up there every three years the place is a sea of black and orange. Stren is right, there has to be a big swag giveaway to get local fannies in the seats. Buncha bandwagoneers......and it’s a shame because that is a beautiful ballpark. If only we could move it down here....

I've honestly watched 2 games a week for 2.5 seasons at work and not once did I think...wow...empty seats ....now I watched Tampa Bay play a homegame and that's the first thing I saw...empty stadium.....I'm not comparing them with the Giants or Dodgers...those are big population centers

The ball park is beautiful as hell. I went the day Ichiro got traded, and it still wasn't even that packed.

Here's the averages per year and their rank (apparently) with the AL teams...

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/SEA/attend.shtml

We'll just take the Safeco years... there has been a real drop from 08 to this year. 25k seems a bit high for what it looks like. (The best way to see how big a crowd is when they do the wide shots of the stadium. I've seen entire sections empty.) The lowest in safeco is 21k average.

We're in the bottom half of fans at least in the AL...

So, they average only 55% capacity (47,116 is the capacity) in 2017. At one point, it was 21k average... And last years prodcut was one of hte best, before injuries. Like UCD said, its a bandwagon team. That place fills out only when its a big giveaway (sad) or only when they do well.... that place is empty as hell otherwise.

Here's the game I went to the day Ichiro got traded AND it was the Yankees:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SEA/SEA201207230.shtml

29K. It was still empty. There was no way there was 30k there. lol.

It's just the way Seattle sports is.
 
to keep on topic:

Angels got Ohtani. LOL. that freaking sucks. Trout + Ohtani.
 

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