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Wonder what he'll have up his sleeves this time.
 
Wow, he's asking why the Blazer don't run on the road... "they're one of the deepest teams in the NBA."

Suck up.
 
After the game, Kenny was commending the Blazers for shooting 60% but Barkley played it off saying everyone shoots well against the Suns.
 
It's plain simple. Barkley watches the Blazers 2 or 3 games a year, spread out, and those are usually games the Blazers are matched up with some elite team, which often we end up on the short end of the stick of, and when he announces, he shows that.
 
kenny really shits on us. before the game they were talking about who wouldnt get in... kenny jumps up and says PORTLAND is the team teh suns are chasing... not dallas.
 
BTW, Barkley said something tonight I do agree with: Oden has been in the league for 154 games - he is NOT a freaking rookie!
 
MIXUM said:
kenny really shits on us. before the game they were talking about who wouldnt get in... kenny jumps up and says PORTLAND is the team teh suns are chasing... not dallas.
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Which is silly, as we all know! :ghoti:
 
oldmangrouch said:
BTW, Barkley said something tonight I do agree with: Oden has been in the league for 154 games - he is NOT a freaking rookie!
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Explain this one to me -- I don't follow. He's not a rookie because he flew on a plane with the team for a season? He absorbed the games via osmosis?
 
BTW, Barkley said something tonight I do agree with: Oden has been in the league for 154 games - he is NOT a freaking rookie!
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You may agree with Barkley, but the NBA doesn't agree with either one of you, nor should they....
 
oldmangrouch said:
BTW, Barkley said something tonight I do agree with: Oden has been in the league for 154 games - he is NOT a freaking rookie!
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That doesn't make much sense to me. Being out of college doesn't mean that a player is no longer a rookie. Being a rookie is determined by actually being available to play in games.

Greg was hurt for a whole season, including a preseason. 154 games is a fabricated--or at least irrelevant--number.

Ed O.
 
MIXUM said:
kenny really shits on us. before the game they were talking about who wouldnt get in... kenny jumps up and says PORTLAND is the team teh suns are chasing... not dallas.
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uhhhhh you shit on "us" every time you post.
 
Guys, you need thicker skins

Of all the teams battling for the playoffs, Portland is by far the youngest. If it wasn't the Blazers most all of you would be saying the same thing. Young teams. historically, have been really inconsistent. Of all the teams racing for that last spot, Portland probably does have the best chance of losing it because they are young. It certainly doesn't mean they will though. If they had lost last night I think the team might have felt the pressure more than say Dallas or a more experienced team.




As for Barkley's comments on running. DAMN RIGHT WE SHOULD. Our home vs road point totals are ridiculous. We score so much more at home because we push the tempo. Why in the world, with our roster, don't we do that all the time????
 
oldmangrouch said:
BTW, Barkley said something tonight I do agree with: Oden has been in the league for 154 games - he is NOT a freaking rookie!
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He said something completely different a few weeks ago. Don't read a whole lot into what Barkley says.
 
Youtube or other clips on Barkley talking about Portland are hard to find.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Guys, you need thicker skins

Of all the teams battling for the playoffs, Portland is by far the youngest. If it wasn't the Blazers most all of you would be saying the same thing. Young teams. historically, have been really inconsistent. Of all the teams racing for that last spot, Portland probably does have the best chance of losing it because they are young. It certainly doesn't mean they will though. If they had lost last night I think the team might have felt the pressure more than say Dallas or a more experienced team.




As for Barkley's comments on running. DAMN RIGHT WE SHOULD. Our home vs road point totals are ridiculous. We score so much more at home because we push the tempo. Why in the world, with our roster, don't we do that all the time????
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Because it backfires as often as not.

When you run and push the ball, your turnovers increase.

On the road, with the home team typically allowed to get away with more reaching and contact, if we emphasize running and pushing over limiting turnovers, we turn the ball over. This leads to the home team getting out on the break, dunking and getting the crowd into it.
 
Masbee said:
Because it backfires as often as not.

When you run and push the ball, your turnovers increase.

On the road, with the home team typically allowed to get away with more reaching and contact, if we emphasize running and pushing over limiting turnovers, we turn the ball over. This leads to the home team getting out on the break, dunking and getting the crowd into it.
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Of course it does. This is the right way to play for a young team as this is. You play controlled to minimize mistakes and let your great closer finish the games off when they are close - and it worked remarkably well for Portland.

I am willing to bet that in a year or two, with more experience - you will see this team running more on the road as well - and winning more.

Walk before you soar to the sky.
 
Ed O said:
That doesn't make much sense to me. Being out of college doesn't mean that a player is no longer a rookie. Being a rookie is determined by actually being available to play in games.

Greg was hurt for a whole season, including a preseason. 154 games is a fabricated--or at least irrelevant--number.

Ed O.
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Cool. So last season doesn't count against his rookie contract? So he has to wait an extra year to become a FA? He didn't receive the automatic pay increase for being a 2nd year player?

Oden gains all the contractual benefits of being a 2nd year player...there is nothing fabricated or irrelevant about that.
 
Tince said:
You may agree with Barkley, but the NBA doesn't agree with either one of you, nor should they....
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Incorrect. Contractually, Oden is in all ways a 2nd year player. (IE salary, determining when he reaches free agency, etc) Making him eligible for the ROY was just a PR stunt.
 
Whether Oden is a rookie or not is talked about so much not only here but on almost every media outlet that talks about the blazers. I just don't understand why people care. Rookie or not, I want every young player just to get better.

If he was in the running for rookie of the year I might understand the discussion a little better.
 
I watched Barkley after the game. It was nice since it proved once and for all I can ignore what he says. Why? It was obvious that he did not do ANY preparation for the show. It was amazing the simple things he did not know.

Basically, his opinions are not informed.
 
Did anyone notice that Barkley said Blazers were not a good team last night? He said that Przybilla would be even better if he was on a good team.
 
Before last nights game, I believed the same thing as Kenny. We were Phoenix's best chance to get in the playoffs due to our youth. If we would have lost we would have had the same amount of losses as Dallas. So in my mind this statement was accurate and probably still is, although it is much tougher now.
Barkley is and always has been a buffoon. What comes out of his mouth is for entertainment purposes only. (Except that he is no longer entertaining, just annoying )
As for his remark about "running", this is not a new debate. it has been a topic of conversation for years. Many teams run more at home. (The Jazz for instance have always taken this approach) Not sure what is the correct answer is but I lean to slowing it down on the road. Less chance of making mistakes and getting blown out ,and a better chance of lulling the other team and their fans to sleep.
 
Beavermaz said:
Whether Oden is a rookie or not is talked about so much not only here but on almost every media outlet that talks about the blazers. I just don't understand why people care. Rookie or not, I want every young player just to get better.

If he was in the running for rookie of the year I might understand the discussion a little better.
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That's a fair point.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Incorrect. Contractually, Oden is in all ways a 2nd year player. (IE salary, determining when he reaches free agency, etc) Making him eligible for the ROY was just a PR stunt.
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You make it sound like Oden was the exception to the rule, which he is not. They're considered rookies until they actually step out on the court. Either way, this is Oden's first year of getting hands on NBA experience.
 
This is Oden's first playing season so for all intents and puerposes he's a rookie. At least playing wise.
 
mgb said:
This is Oden's first playing season so for all intents and puerposes he's a rookie. At least playing wise.
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That's a fair point, but that only covers part of the equation.

Put it in these terms: Rudy and Oden were drafted the same time. Neither played for the Blazers before this season. Rudy has accumulated 1 year toward free agent eligibility, while Oden gets *2*. If Oden is a "rookie", the team is being cheated out of one season worth of his services!
 
oldmangrouch said:
That's a fair point, but that only covers part of the equation.

Put it in these terms: Rudy and Oden were drafted the same time. Neither played for the Blazers before this season. Rudy has accumulated 1 year toward free agent eligibility, while Oden gets *2*. If Oden is a "rookie", the team is being cheated out of one season worth of his services!
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Contract wise he's not a rookie, playing wise he is.
 
oldmangrouch said:
That's a fair point, but that only covers part of the equation.

Put it in these terms: Rudy and Oden were drafted the same time. Neither played for the Blazers before this season. Rudy has accumulated 1 year toward free agent eligibility, while Oden gets *2*. If Oden is a "rookie", the team is being cheated out of one season worth of his services!
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I guess you could look at it that way, but the Blazers signed Greg to a contract before he hurt himself. Rudy didn't sign until last summer. Thems the breaks. Unless Greg really steps it up next season, I hardly think he'll be worth max money anyway. He hasn't shown enough, and I don't think Greg would expect max money at this point.
 
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