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Jon said:
i was thinking richmond, but he played for SAC longer. and he was better there too.
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I had forgotten how short his tenure was with GSW, because I will always remember him as part of "Run TMC". As an aside, looking back at the transaction detail, it's sad how little value GSW netted from that deal--trading Richmond and a pick for Billy Owens, who was basically average for 3 years before he was dealt for Rony Seikaly, who was below average for two years and was then traded for three scrubs. Basically, they gave up the prime all-star years of a hall-of-famer for nothing. Probably worse than us giving up Jermaine O'Neal.
 
well, if Chris Mullin hadn't have been racist, and Mitch a little too fashionable for Hardaway's gaydar, maybe they'd still be there. I'm sure Don Nelson was drinking too much at the time. /canzano
 
Hobbesarable said:
Lakers quick list of 10 players

Magic, Goodrich
Kobe, West
Baylor, Worthy
Kareem, Mikan
Wilt, Shaq
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The only problem with that unbelievable lineup is you have 4 centers and no true PFs. Karl Malone played with them for a year if that counts. Rambis was an incredible enforcer.
 
Stevenson said:
The only problem with that unbelievable lineup is you have 4 centers and no true PFs. Karl Malone played with them for a year if that counts. Rambis was an incredible enforcer.
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What makes a "true" PF, and what makes it superior to a true center? I mean, do you honestly think that if the Jazz had traded Malone for Shaq that they would have been less successful?
 
magnifier661 said:
Can our historic best beat other team's historic bests?

Field our historic best 10 man roster and pick the historic best coaching staff to boot.

Now can this team beat the other bests?

My choice:

Dame/Porter
Roy/Petrovic
Drexler/Kersey
Aldridge/Sheed
Walton/Sabas

I think this crew would give other teams a run for their money.

Lakers and Boston would be the teams I would worry about.
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Ive been listening to this on the radio and I think your right except one other team. Phili.
That teams has a monster all NBA team.
 
Boob-No-More said:
ORL T-Mac, yes. HOU T-Mac, no.

T-Mac never made it past the 1st round in HOU. His best season in HOU was his first, and then he went into gradual decline until his back finally gave out on him. Here's how his best season in HOU compares to Harden's best (so far):

Tracy McGrady 2004-05:
PPG = 25.7
RPG = 6.2
APG = 5.7
PER = 22.9
WS = 12.0
WS/48 = .180
VORP = 7.0
Team Record = 51-31
Playoffs = Lost Western Conference 1st Round
MVP Voting = 7th

James Harden 2014-15:
PPG = 27.4
RPG = 5.7
APG = 7.0
PER = 26.7
WS = 16.4
WS/48 = .265
VORP = 7.8
Team Record = 56-26
Playoffs = Lost Western Conference Finals
MVP Voting = 2nd

Harden's individual stats are better, especially the advanced stats (PER, WS and WS/48) and his team did better in both the regular season and the playoffs. Admittedly, I enjoyed T-Mac's style of play more, but in terms of production and results, the nod goes to Harden.

BNM
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T- Mac played on both sides of the floor. I stand by my statement.
 
Mediocre Man said:
A lot of teams are better than ours.
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They were saying that on the radio too, but im not so sure about that. I think we would be a playoff team.

Lets list all the teams best and see how we stack up side by side.

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Orion Bailey said:
They were saying that on the radio too, but im not so sure about that. I think we would be a playoff team.

Lets list all the teams best and see how we stack up side by side.

Edit: Piss poor typing....
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Can the same player play for two teams? Moses Malone for Philly and Houston?
 
Mediocre Man said:
Can the same player play for two teams? Moses Malone for Philly and Houston?
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Philly, GSW and LA all claim Wilt. You'd end up with a fistfight if you told each of those fanbases that only one can claim him.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Can the same player play for two teams? Moses Malone for Philly and Houston?
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PtldPlatypus said:
Philly, GSW and LA all claim Wilt. You'd end up with a fistfight if you told each of those fanbases that only one can claim him.
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Absolutely true, but still must be. I was counting Moses with Phili.
But a player can only play on one team. But there is this to consider.

Say the lakers: Shaq. Do the lakers need him? no. SO he would be better on Miami or Orlando. Probably Orlando because they are a cellar dweller.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Absolutely true, but still must be. I was counting Moses with Phili.
But a player can only play on one team. But there is this to consider.

Say the lakers: Shaq. Do the lakers need him? no. SO he would be better on Miami or Orlando. Probably Orlando because they are a cellar dweller.
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I would think that if that criterion were put in place, priority would be determined by games played for each franchise. So, Lakers would have the claim on Shaq, but not on Wilt.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I would think that if that criterion were put in place, priority would be determined by games played for each franchise. So, Lakers would have the claim on Shaq, but not on Wilt.
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Im down with that. That way there is no controversy. LOL.. like that would solve that....

Seems logical though. Players have to go to the team they played the most minutes or games or season.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Im down with that. That way there is no controversy. LOL.. like that would solve that....

Seems logical though. Players have to go to the team they played the most minutes or games or season.
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Unfortunately, that would screw Philly, because the Rockets and Warriors have claim on Malone and Wilt.

Oh well.
 
Orion Bailey said:
They were saying that on the radio too, but im not so sure about that. I think we would be a playoff team.

Lets list all the teams best and see how we stack up side by side.

Edit: Piss poor typing....
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I think we've make the playoffs, but lose in the 1st round, especially if we draw one of LAL, BOS or PHI.

BNM
 
Mediocre Man said:
Can the same player play for two teams? Moses Malone for Philly and Houston?
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I say yes, but only at the actual age he played for that team. In other words, CLE gets old, fat Shaq, not ORL or LAL prime-time Shaq.

BNM
 
PG Terry Porter SG Brandon Roy SF Clyde Drexler PF LaMarcus Aldridge and Center Bill Walton.

It's interesting. Two players in my top five LA and Roy were on the same team. The best player during that stretch might have been Oden who couldn't ever get right health wise and very well could have been included had he stayed healthy. Just goes to show you how good that team and three really were and if they stayed healthy...Dynasty. What if?

But I think this lineup even though I have concerns at point can compete with anyone. I think players like Walton and Drexler elevate the value of the other three and their production on the floor. And make them that much better.
 
Stevenson said:
The only problem with that unbelievable lineup is you have 4 centers and no true PFs. Karl Malone played with them for a year if that counts. Rambis was an incredible enforcer.
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Yeah, I know. I just made up a quick list from memory and posted it. Kareem could probably play PF with his sky hook.
 
magnifier661 said:
Can our historic best beat other team's historic bests?

Field our historic best 10 man roster and pick the historic best coaching staff to boot.

Now can this team beat the other bests?

My choice:

Dame/Porter
Roy/Petrovic
Drexler/Kersey
Aldridge/Sheed
Walton/Sabas

I think this crew would give other teams a run for their money.

Lakers and Boston would be the teams I would worry about.
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Not bad, but not quite the best.

Strickland/Twardzik
Petrie/Steele
Drexler/Gross
Aldridge/Lucas
Walton/Sabas
 
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