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Why would u trade a star in Cj whose locked up for the next 5 years for a star that's most likely going to bail after his contract ends next year?
This is what I don't understand. Why even bother building a winning team if your always afraid of your star players bailing when there contract ends? Your going to have take chances at some point.
 
This is what I don't understand. Why even bother building a winning team if your always afraid of your star players bailing when there contract ends? Your going to have take chances at some point.

Because it's not smart? We're not winning a ring if we trade CJ for cousins.
 
This is what I don't understand. Why even bother building a winning team if your always afraid of your star players bailing when there contract ends? Your going to have take chances at some point.

I'm still trying to understand how Dame drinks like a fish, but we all have things we may never know.
 
Because it's not smart? We're not winning a ring if we trade CJ for cousins.
We're not winning a ring if we don't trade C.J for Cousins either. So we get C.J. for a couple years longer only to develop some more players and keep building though the draft. Maybe with making some minor trades along the way.
 
Yeah but they're gonna wanna shed that contract if they're truly gonna blow it up. They need:

  1. Young players on longer deals.
  2. High draft picks.
  3. Money.
I understand that; but the guy I was replying to seems to think we will get a better deal on Cousins if we also take Gay. I have read somewhere they are already getting decent offers for Gay alone.
 
That seems oddly definitive. Don't exactly see how you can be so certain.

Meaning I don't think we're that one trade away from being contenders, although I do think it gets us closer.

Still not worth it unless cousins is committed to being here longer than one season.
 
Meaning I don't think we're that one trade away from being contenders, although I do think it gets us closer.

Still not worth it unless cousins is committed to being here longer than one season.
I don't think anybody is suggesting that CJ for DMC would be the one move that would put us over the top, but (as you say) that it could get us closer.

I think we're mostly in agreement here.
 
CJ and Leonard to Sac for DMC.

Crabbe to Phi for Noel.


Let the team gel for a year. Contender?
 
Article states we are offering Leonard, Plumlee, Harkless and 2 first round draft picks... interesting. White side is good, but it would sting to lose Harkless and the picks. Maybe Layman is in the plans to be a bigger part of the future.
"Article," lol...
 
I would give a ton for Wiggins or Towns. If there is any chance at either of them Olshey should pick up the phone.

I seriously doubt it though.
 
CJ and Leonard to Sac for DMC.

Crabbe to Phi for Noel.


Let the team gel for a year. Contender?

I think you just traded two shooting guards for two centers. We'd still have an unbalanced roster, just unbalanced at a different position.

Can Noel and Boogie co-exist on the court? PHI tried that with Okafor and Noel and it didn't work. They were forcing Noel to play out of position and his productivity suffered.

And, if we trade both Dame and C.J., who is our starting 2, Turner? Not sure that's such a good idea either. Dame needs to play with someone who can space the floor. Cousins can't, Noel can't, Aminu can't, Turner can't and while Harkless is shooting better right now, he isn't exactly known as a lights out 3-point shooter.

BNM
 
I hope everyone understand these our pipe dream trades. I see us maybe get our hands on Noel but I it doesn't make sense trading all your draft picks and half your team to get one of these guys my opinion.
 
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Towns and Wiggins aren't leaving the Wolves. They are building around them. Especially Towns, he is untouchable. You guys and your ridiculous trade ideas, calm down, use logic
 
CJ and Leonard to Sac for DMC.

Crabbe to Phi for Noel.


Let the team gel for a year. Contender?
So then we have zero SGs and six PF/Cs. I thought we were trying to balance the roster, not corner the market.
 
Figured it wasn't really worth starting a new thread about but my source that has connections to another front office in the NBA told me yesterday that there have been whispers out there of PDX exploring a deal centered around Boogie for CJ/Meyers/2nd Rounder.

I love CJ to death and find watching him and Dame play together is awesome. But thinking about it, if you have the chance to combine Boogie with Dame...that is a SOLID foundation for a contending team and I would have to seriously consider it as a Blazer.
I think that move makes sense talent wise, but there is a vast character gap between cj and DMC. CJ is one of the coolest guys in the league, and we have him locked up long term. DMC is only under contract one more year, and Portland would running a big risk in losing him for nothing.
 
Figured it wasn't really worth starting a new thread about but my source that has connections to another front office in the NBA told me yesterday that there have been whispers out there of PDX exploring a deal centered around Boogie for CJ/Meyers/2nd Rounder.

I love CJ to death and find watching him and Dame play together is awesome. But thinking about it, if you have the chance to combine Boogie with Dame...that is a SOLID foundation for a contending team and I would have to seriously consider it as a Blazer.
Dude. That would be sick.

I actually like a Mase-Boogie PF/C combo.

I really don't wanna let CJ go, however. I don't think Cuz with 1 yr on his deal left has that kind of value
 
However, they might be willing to part with Dieng.
The one rumor that I heard was that Thibs was getting tired of Lavine and is open to dealing him. Not sure why, but that's the scuttlebutt. As part of a deal sending Crabbe away, I'd definitely be interested in getting in on that somehow.
 
not sure why we would have any interest in getting a guy that can only bring dunks to the table...
 
not sure why we would have any interest in getting a guy that can only bring dunks to the table...
Have you seen him at all this year? He shoots 37% from 3 on 6.5 attempts per game. His TS% of 58.0 is almost identical to CJ's. He's a good ball-handler, and can both attack the rim and shoot effectively from the perimeter. A 3 guard rotation of Lillard, CJ, and Lavine would be absolutely lethal.

I also think he's worth more to the Wolves than we would be able to reasonably offer.
 
Have you seen him at all this year? He shoots 37% from 3 on 6.5 attempts per game. His TS% of 58.0 is almost identical to CJ's. He's a good ball-handler, and can both attack the rim and shoot effectively from the perimeter. A 3 guard rotation of Lillard, CJ, and Lavine would be absolutely lethal.

I also think he's worth more to the Wolves than we would be able to reasonably offer.

haven't watched him at all. but I have always been underwhelmed by him. sounds like maybe he is figuring more stuff out though, good to see that this stuff isn't happening in a contract year as well. I may come around, but as you say, he may be out of our reach anyway.
 
I think we need to save Crabbe in order to trade him for Karl-Anthony Towns.

Crabbe/Cle 1st to Phi for Noel.

CJ/Plumlee/our 1st to Sac for DMC.

Dame/Napier
Quarterman/Connaughton
Hark/Turner
DMC/Vonleh
Noel/Davis/Ezeli



We would need to address the SG spot.... but damn I like that so far.
 
Crabbe/Cle 1st to Phi for Noel.

That's a bit fairer, but Noel is a useful player on a rookie deal--Crabbe is a well below average player on a pretty large salary. I don't think a very low first round pick evens it out. If you want to acquire a player, Crabbe probably can't be a part of it. The only way Portland is getting rid of Crabbe (pun possibility noticed but declined) is by packaging him with someone good in return for very little. Right now, there's probably no reason for Portland to do that, but we shouldn't consider Crabbe a trade asset in trade possibilities.

Right now, I'd say that (aside from Lillard, of course) Portland's only real trade assets are McCollum, Harkless and Aminu, with the possibility to use players like Plumlee, Davis and maybe Vonleh are throw-ins. Of the first three, Aminu is probably the fairest match to trade for Noel. I think that only works if you could play Noel and Plumlee together, which I'm not sure of.
 
http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...-Considered-Blazers-2nd-Option-In-Free-Agency

Hassan Whiteside signed a four-year maximum contract with the Miami Heat worth approximately $98 million.

Whiteside first met with the Miami Heat and then the Dallas Mavericks before making his decision.
Whiteside revealed he also liked the Portland Trail Blazers.
“Portland was my second option,” Whiteside said at the team’s Saturday shootaround in Portland. “I would have came here.”

ESPN reported last week that Portland “chased” Whiteside in free agency, but nothing was said of Whiteside’s interest.
 

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