Omar Mateen, mass shooter.

[SlyPokerDog]

Tel Aviv City Hall tonight.

 

[riverman]

This was a horrible tragedy...it sickens me...I'm spoiled by growing up in a country where shit like this wasn't supposed to happen at home. I thought about countries like Israel and England where bombings were a regular thing and how detached I seemed from them...now it's close to home. There's no way to make any sense out of madness like the killing of innocent people in a public place..where's the humanity? RIP to all those killed and I wish a speedy recovery to those in critical condition.

 

[PDXFonz]

I'm fucking sick of waking up to news like this, makes me not want to live on this planet anymore, and I feel completely helpless to do anything about it.

 

[Denny Crane]

Libertarian solution is that mass shootings will be prevented by the free market.

barfo

No. Libertarians believe in laws. If you're going to criticize the philosophy, at least get the details right.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

The agenda is stop this from happening again.

You simply cant control everyone all the time. Rather than over react, maybe it's a good time to reflect. If someone has throat cancer do you try and get rid of the cancer or give them a cough drop?
You like analogies so here goes:
This country has cancer and we keep trying to put on bandaids like its going to help.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I'm fucking sick of waking up to news like this, makes me not want to live on this planet anymore, and I feel completely helpless to do anything about it.

Prozac, or just dont watch the news.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I like how everyone wants to ask why and then all the agendas come out. How about people are fucking shitty and it's getting worse.

You simply cant control everyone all the time. Rather than over react, maybe it's a good time to reflect. If someone has throat cancer do you try and get rid of the cancer or give them a cough drop?
You like analogies so here goes:
This country has cancer and we keep trying to put on bandaids like its going to help.

I like your attitude on this, it's not the worst US mass shooting, it's the best US mass shooting! We shouldn't react to how terrible this is, we should reflect on how good we're getting at it!

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Let me make on thing perfectly fucking clear.

My community was just targeted for mass murder.
If you have any fucking thing to say beyond condolences I don't want to fucking hear it.

I do NOT want a debate about whether the killer's ex wife is hot.
Take that SHIT elsewhere. Like a Donald Trump rally.

State after state in the past year has tried to outdo one another in passing antigay laws. To see who could be most mean-spirited. The "winner" has to be Mississippi, why am I not surprised, that passed a law that counselors at suicide prevention hotlines can refuse to assist gay callers if that's what Jesus wants. Because you know Jesus wants us all to kill ourselves.

I guess the difference is gay hating Christians want us to kill ourselves, gay hating Muslims do the job for us.

The runner up for the Republican nomination spoke at rallies with Christian ministers who called for the death penalty for homosexuality. The presumptive nominee has pledged to fill the Supreme Court with justices who will overturn gay civil rights; I guess it's OK if we live as long as we cower in closets with no rights. The way it was when America used to be "great".

So this fuckhead takes it to the logical, if such a word can be used, conclusion.

So don't go passing the fucking buck. Don't say it's just immigrants (he was born here) or Muslims.
Look in your fucking mirror.

Because right now my tolerance for homophobic shit is at negative 1 million or so. And there is a fuck of a lot of it right here on S2.

And I'm sorry if I'm not really making sense because I am SICK SICK SICK of this SHIT. I am SICK SICK SICK of it. I am SICK of my community scapegoated. I am SICK of "faggot" being the insult of choice in sports and elsewhere. I am SICK of hearing that if I knew YOUR dick I wouldn't be a lesbian. I am SICK of fucking "religious freedom", a cherished value, translated to "I hate gays and have the right to refuse service to you". I am SICK of candidates getting into office on hating us. I am SICK of politicians who can't solve a single damn problem in their states or in Congress but always have time to pass another antigay, or antiabortion, or anti birth control, law. I am SICK of every time I hear someone say he/she is Christian I have to think "he/she hates gays" and usually being right.

I am SICK of assholes like Trump using an attack on MY community to spread more hate and more incendiary language. I am SICK of fucking hypocritical antigay governors offering their "prayers", for what, more of us to die? and then signing more antigay laws. I am SICK of cutting AIDS funding because it's just queers, oh but isn't it awful, a Muslim killed gay people. Have to do something about these Muslims. Shit, they're nearly as bad as queers.

I am SICK of damn near every fucking thing right now.

http://www.persecution.com

Christians are persecuted in other parts of the world and if many had their way theyd be persecuted here as well. I certainly wish no one was persecuted but unfortunately people like to blame others for their problems rather than look in a mirror.

Maybe rather than hate people you feel persecuted by you should try loving them. That's what jesus taught us. I hope you know there is no hatred in my heart for you.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I like your attitude on this, it's not the worst US mass shooting, it's the best US mass shooting! We shouldn't react to how terrible this is, we should reflect on how good we're getting at it!

Youre right we just need to ban high capacity magazines and automatic weapons. That will stop people from going psyco!

 

[PDXFonz]

Prozac, or just dont watch the news.

Green font?

If not:
A. I refuse to go on drugs to change who I am because of the number of assholes out there
B. You can stick your head in the sand and act like nothing is wrong, but that isn't the truth

 

[SlyPokerDog]

http://www.persecution.com

Christians are persecuted in other parts of the world and if many had their way theyd be persecuted here as well. I certainly wish no one was persecuted but unfortunately people like to blame others for their problems rather than look in a mirror.

Maybe rather than hate people you feel persecuted by you should try loving them. That's what jesus taught us. I hope you know there is no hatred in my heart for you.

For a person who scolded other people's search for answers you sure are full of.... answers, lol.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Green font?

If not:
A. I refuse to go on drugs to change who I am because of the number of assholes out there
B. You can stick your head in the sand and act like nothing is wrong, but that isn't the truth

I ignore the world and control what i can control, my attitude and my actions. It's a very stress free way to live once you realize no one gives a fuck about you and never will. You take care of you, cause no one else will.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I ignore the world and control what i can control, my attitude and my actions. It's a very stress free way to live once you realize no one gives a fuck about you and never will. You take care of you, cause no one else will.

I care about you. I will never take care of you but I do care.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

For a person who scolded other people's search for answers you sure are full of.... answers, lol.

Scolded? Lol i thought dogs had thicker skin.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I care about you. I will never take care of you but I do care.

Thats fine thats why god made mrs HCP

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Scolded? Lol i thought dogs had thicker skin.

I wasn't talking about anything you said to me.

 

[MarAzul]

My community was just targeted for mass murder.

As were my countrymen, again.

 

[MarAzul]

Youre right we just need to ban high capacity magazines and automatic weapons. That will stop people from going psyco!

Naw! The FBI was tipped off about this guy by his co-workers (Homeland Security contractors). He was talking about ISIS and supporting ISIS, hating Gays.
In the end they did nothing! Now that is the story and the question. Why the fuck did they let this dude off the hook?? Who the hell is leading that sort of plan???

 

[isonoob]

Naw! The FBI was tipped off about this guy by his co-workers (Homeland Security contractors). He was talking about ISIS and supporting ISIS, hating Gays.
In the end they did nothing! Now that is the story and the question. Why the fuck did they let this dude off the hook?? Who the hell is leading that sort of plan???

Government fails to do their job, that's nothing new.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Let me make on thing perfectly fucking clear.

My community was just targeted for mass murder.
If you have any fucking thing to say beyond condolences I don't want to fucking hear it.

I do NOT want a debate about whether the killer's ex wife is hot.
Take that SHIT elsewhere. Like a Donald Trump rally.

State after state in the past year has tried to outdo one another in passing antigay laws. To see who could be most mean-spirited. The "winner" has to be Mississippi, why am I not surprised, that passed a law that counselors at suicide prevention hotlines can refuse to assist gay callers if that's what Jesus wants. Because you know Jesus wants us all to kill ourselves.

I guess the difference is gay hating Christians want us to kill ourselves, gay hating Muslims do the job for us.

The runner up for the Republican nomination spoke at rallies with Christian ministers who called for the death penalty for homosexuality. The presumptive nominee has pledged to fill the Supreme Court with justices who will overturn gay civil rights; I guess it's OK if we live as long as we cower in closets with no rights. The way it was when America used to be "great".

So this fuckhead takes it to the logical, if such a word can be used, conclusion.

So don't go passing the fucking buck. Don't say it's just immigrants (he was born here) or Muslims.
Look in your fucking mirror.

Because right now my tolerance for homophobic shit is at negative 1 million or so. And there is a fuck of a lot of it right here on S2.

And I'm sorry if I'm not really making sense because I am SICK SICK SICK of this SHIT. I am SICK SICK SICK of it. I am SICK of my community scapegoated. I am SICK of "faggot" being the insult of choice in sports and elsewhere. I am SICK of hearing that if I knew YOUR dick I wouldn't be a lesbian. I am SICK of fucking "religious freedom", a cherished value, translated to "I hate gays and have the right to refuse service to you". I am SICK of candidates getting into office on hating us. I am SICK of politicians who can't solve a single damn problem in their states or in Congress but always have time to pass another antigay, or antiabortion, or anti birth control, law. I am SICK of every time I hear someone say he/she is Christian I have to think "he/she hates gays" and usually being right.

I am SICK of assholes like Trump using an attack on MY community to spread more hate and more incendiary language. I am SICK of fucking hypocritical antigay governors offering their "prayers", for what, more of us to die? and then signing more antigay laws. I am SICK of cutting AIDS funding because it's just queers, oh but isn't it awful, a Muslim killed gay people. Have to do something about these Muslims. Shit, they're nearly as bad as queers.

I am SICK of damn near every fucking thing right now.

There is a lot of stuff here and I'm sorry. I sat around a bit this morning watching YouTube and angry people caught on camera. I hate to say it but we are a country of morons.

2 things stand out in your post, first...people calling for death penalties for being gay. We used to have institutions that these people should be in. They are clearly mentally ill. It is sad that someone would even say that.

The thing that really stands out to me and is probably the least important is something that just strikes me as bizarre. I've never thought about my personal equipment turning a lesbian straight. I am flabbergasted that anyone would say that. Just bizarre, the things other people have to hear that I'd never imagine.

Oh fuck, one more thing I guess. Why do these fuckhole Republicans want to keep fighting the same shit? It is over, you lose. Gay people can get married, deal with it.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

2 things stand out in your post, first...people calling for death penalties for being gay. We used to have institutions that these people should be in. They are clearly mentally ill. It is sad that someone would even say that.

Many predominantly muslim countries have the death penalty for homosexuality. Its one thing when its a fringe pastor with a small following, but as stated, Islam systemically advocates death for homosexuals. And this isn't just a church saying it, its the law of the country based on non-radical Islam. SPD posted Israel's reaction to this tragedy, what do the Muslim countries say?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...where-homosexuality-may-be-punished-by-death/

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Naw! The FBI was tipped off about this guy by his co-workers (Homeland Security contractors). He was talking about ISIS and supporting ISIS, hating Gays.
In the end they did nothing! Now that is the story and the question. Why the fuck did they let this dude off the hook?? Who the hell is leading that sort of plan???

Due process?

 

[KingSpeed]

Let me make on thing perfectly fucking clear.

My community was just targeted for mass murder.
If you have any fucking thing to say beyond condolences I don't want to fucking hear it.

I do NOT want a debate about whether the killer's ex wife is hot.
Take that SHIT elsewhere. Like a Donald Trump rally.

State after state in the past year has tried to outdo one another in passing antigay laws. To see who could be most mean-spirited. The "winner" has to be Mississippi, why am I not surprised, that passed a law that counselors at suicide prevention hotlines can refuse to assist gay callers if that's what Jesus wants. Because you know Jesus wants us all to kill ourselves.

I guess the difference is gay hating Christians want us to kill ourselves, gay hating Muslims do the job for us.

The runner up for the Republican nomination spoke at rallies with Christian ministers who called for the death penalty for homosexuality. The presumptive nominee has pledged to fill the Supreme Court with justices who will overturn gay civil rights; I guess it's OK if we live as long as we cower in closets with no rights. The way it was when America used to be "great".

So this fuckhead takes it to the logical, if such a word can be used, conclusion.

So don't go passing the fucking buck. Don't say it's just immigrants (he was born here) or Muslims.
Look in your fucking mirror.

Because right now my tolerance for homophobic shit is at negative 1 million or so. And there is a fuck of a lot of it right here on S2.

And I'm sorry if I'm not really making sense because I am SICK SICK SICK of this SHIT. I am SICK SICK SICK of it. I am SICK of my community scapegoated. I am SICK of "faggot" being the insult of choice in sports and elsewhere. I am SICK of hearing that if I knew YOUR dick I wouldn't be a lesbian. I am SICK of fucking "religious freedom", a cherished value, translated to "I hate gays and have the right to refuse service to you". I am SICK of candidates getting into office on hating us. I am SICK of politicians who can't solve a single damn problem in their states or in Congress but always have time to pass another antigay, or antiabortion, or anti birth control, law. I am SICK of every time I hear someone say he/she is Christian I have to think "he/she hates gays" and usually being right.

I am SICK of assholes like Trump using an attack on MY community to spread more hate and more incendiary language. I am SICK of fucking hypocritical antigay governors offering their "prayers", for what, more of us to die? and then signing more antigay laws. I am SICK of cutting AIDS funding because it's just queers, oh but isn't it awful, a Muslim killed gay people. Have to do something about these Muslims. Shit, they're nearly as bad as queers.

I am SICK of damn near every fucking thing right now.

Thanks for this, crandc. You're much more articulate than me so I appreciate this. I just found out the shooter grew up near us in Manhattan. One of our close friends in her 70s told us tonight that she knew him as a young boy. It's crazy. People have to remember this guy was an American, not some guy who snuck into our country.

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

How come there is a thread for this but not for Christina Grimmie? She was only 22 years old and was killed while signing autographs for her fans. Also in Orlando, Florida.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

How come there is a thread for this but not for Christina Grimmie? She was only 22 years old and was killed while signing autographs for her fans. Also in Orlando, Florida.

Feel free to start one, nothing is stopping you.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

So the loser that wanted to shoot up the LA Gay Pride Parade is white... and a Bernie supporter.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

So the loser that wanted to shoot up the LA Gay Pride Parade is white... and a Bernie supporter.

I think I saw on twitter that he was possibly gay as well. I believe the narrative has changed from this morning.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Santa Monica Police Chief Jacqueline Seabrooks initially said on Twitter that the 20-year-old man told one of her officers after he was arrested that he wanted “to harm Gay Pride event.”

But Lt. Saul Rodriguez said later the tweet was a misstatement. He said the suspect told investigators that he was going to the Pride festival but said he did not make additional statements about his intentions.

"It was a misstatement," Rodriguez said. "Unfortunately, she was given incorrect information initially, which indicated that that statement was made; however, that statement never was made. He did indicate that he was planning on going to the Pride festival but beyond anything as far as motives or his intentions that statement was never made nor did any officer receive that statement."

Greeson said that Howell harbored no ill will toward gays or lesbians and added that Howell was bisexual.

 

[barfo]

So the loser that wanted to shoot up the LA Gay Pride Parade is white... and a Bernie supporter.

Say you want a revolution, well, you know...

barfo

 

[RipCityDSCPL]

Feel free to start one, nothing is stopping you.

There is something stopping me actually, it happened almost three days ago and people don't care to respond to old news.

I just think it is a bit of a double standard really.