On the nature of evil

[barfo]

Question for our conservative friends: which one is more evil, and why?

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Fixed the poll!

 

[Denny Crane]

Obama's not evil. He's incompetent.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Voted for the obvious answer. But between the two intended options, I believe Hilary is more intentional in her "evil", whereas Obama actually has decent intentions, but is (in the mind of most conservatives) "misguided" in his efforts.

 

[barfo]

Obama's not evil. He's incompetent.

Let's dispense with this notion that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing.

barfo

 

[e_blazer]

They're all minions of the dark force. Need we quibble about order?

 

[Denny Crane]

Let's dispense with this notion that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing.

barfo

Let's not.

 

[crowTrobot]

many conservatives would say Trump should be on that poll

 

[MarAzul]

I don't view Obama as evil. I see him as an extreme idealist.

Clinton maybe evil as the result of being extremely greedy for power.

barfo is not evil, although he may want to be.

 

[barfo]

Let's not.

Not very nice of you to delete my triple-post joke.

barfo

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I think I should be in the poll for listing Barfo in the poll.

 

[Denny Crane]

Not very nice of you to delete my triple-post joke.

barfo

My bad. That was a real knee slapper.

 

[barfo]

Clinton maybe evil as the result of being extremely greedy for power.

I'm curious, how is she any more greedy for power than anyone else who is running or who has ever run for President?

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

I'm curious, how is she any more greedy for power than anyone else who is running or who has ever run for President?

barfo

I don't know that she is, but she get caught lying more that most in the chase.

 

[barfo]

I don't know that she is

But nevertheless you said that she is.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

But nevertheless you said that she is.

barfo

Correct.

 

[dviss1]

Obama's not evil. He's incompetent.

This is a silly notion.

 

[Denny Crane]

This is a silly notion.

True, except for the fact that Obama is incompetent. Otherwise he wouldn't have handed over a big chunk of the treasury to insurance companies.

 

[MarAzul]

Otherwise he wouldn't have handed over a big chunk of the treasury to insurance companies

I sort of think of it as the idealist rather than incompetent. But either way, they are not keeping the bargan, that is why Moda is in trouble.

 

[dviss1]

True, except for the fact that Obama is incompetent. Otherwise he wouldn't have handed over a big chunk of the treasury to insurance companies.

This flies on the face of your Moda argument. Pick a side.

 

[Denny Crane]

This flies on the face of your Moda argument. Pick a side.

I was using YOUR argument against you. It's you that needs to pick a side.

I have seen enough to know he's incompetent. You can keep your doctor. He must not have read it (incompetent).

 

[MARIS61]

Hitler, Mussillini, Hirohito or Stalin?

The question is fatuous.

 

[dviss1]

I was using YOUR argument against you. It's you that needs to pick a side.

I have seen enough to know he's incompetent. You can keep your doctor. He must not have read it (incompetent).

Don't debate Denny's Gish gallop.

It was never my argument that Obama handed over Treasury money to the insurance companies. That was your argument.

 

[Further]

So I know I'm not who the poll was intended for, but i voted Hillary. Obama I think is a great president although I don't agree with all he has/hasn't done.

Hillary I vacillate about. She just bothers me from a purely personality standpoint. She seems extremely conniving, although that may actually be a good trait for a President. But she strikes me as unauthentic, someone without much conviction on issues that don't relate to women's issues (which I do believe she is truly passionate about). I agree with many of her policies except I think that she is a bit of a warmonger. I would certainly vote for her over Trump, Rubio, Cruz or just about any of the candidates who have dropped out. The only caveat being Kaisch whom I disagree on many issues with, but I think it might be worth it to get a moderate in to actually accomplish something and move the republican party back to the center a bit.

Of course, if there is any chance for Sanders, I'll be all over that. I don't agree with him on many financial issues, but I will vote for just about anyone who I believe will work towards dissolving citizens united and uncouple money from politics. Bernie will do that. He will never get most of his crazy financial issues passed, so I'm not too worried about those.

 

[Denny Crane]

Don't debate Denny's Gish gallop.

It was never my argument that Obama handed over Treasury money to the insurance companies. That was your argument.

That was your argument just yesterday.

Obama is incompetent, and was ill prepared for the job. I feel Cruz and Rubio are ill prepared for the job as well.

 

[dviss1]

That was your argument just yesterday.

Obama is incompetent, and was ill prepared for the job. I feel Cruz and Rubio are ill prepared for the job as well.

Quote me.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

This is like arguing who has the biggest package in the under 3 inch club. The winner is still a loser.

 

[barfo]

I feel Cruz and Rubio are ill prepared for the job as well.

I notice you didn't mention the orangutan in the room...

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Quote me.

I notice you didn't mention the orangutan in the room...

barfo

trump?

He's been an executive and budgeted $billions with P&L responsibility. He's more qualified than most.

Like it or not.

 

[MarAzul]

if there is any chance for Sanders, I'll be all over that.

I don't get where you are coming from on Sanders at all. He has his hand out big time and he wants the force of law to stick it in your pocket!

uncouple money from politics.

Who the hell has uncoupled money from politics more than Trump? Geez, he is the only one in my memory, that doesn't take from anyone.

Seems like you haven't been paying attention Further.