One thing about bayless...hes a badass

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Theres nobody else on the blazers who has the energy that bayless has. Hes the type of player that gets you excited. He cant shoot for sh!t but man, when the team is a little dead... he brings em to life. I think thats the one thing misssing form this team... a player who gets excited and wants to throw down in the the other teams face. Roy and Aldridge are great but they are very calm out there. You need a guy who brings a fire like bayless. Hes the type of guy you "hate" if hes not on your team. He will become one of those guys that gets under players skins.

As i watched him tonight, im 100% sure.... hes the backup unless we make a deal for a PG. Not that we would trade him but im assuming he would be 3rd on depth chart behind blake. Sergio in 1000 years couldn't do what bayless did tonight. Its not even his scoring...its his attitude. Sergio quite frankly is too passive.

It will be interesting this summer or at the deadline to see how we handle blake if we do trade for a PG. I man, do we trade blake with sergio or do we trade 1 this summer and get a vet? I dont think blake would settle for a backup role behind bayless at this point.
 
I like having both I don't know about you.

I feel that if we want to get a good enough improvement at PG we're going to have to ship off Bayless.

I could be wrong.
 
nah....i dont think we would deal bayless unless we were getting a stud

sergio.....not so much. i dont know if sergio would be anything more of a throw in

blake looks like a filler type player this summer.
 
Da_O said:
I like having both I don't know about you.

I feel that if we want to get a good enough improvement at PG we're going to have to ship off Bayless.

I could be wrong.
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That had better be one helluva point guard!
 
^Devin Harris is what it'll take.:cheers:

Btw, MIXUM, you were high on Bayless, then high on Sergio, and now you're back to high on Bayless. If Blake has 30 pts on his return, would you become high on him too?
 
Nikolokolus said:
That had better be one helluva point guard!
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That's what I'm saying. Everyone around here wants an all-star caliber player. But they're going to expect something in return and Bayless is going to be asked about if we are to inquire an all-star caliber player. I wouldn't mind letting him go as I tend to think fans overvalue their own players. I think Bayless could develop into a good player but probably never be a good PG. I see him at best being a Steve Francis type player. I hope I'm wrong though.
 
i gave sergio credit when hes played well but i still think hes the odd man out

if you could pick one...who would you take lol?

its not close.
 
devin harris....of course id trade bayless for him

nate robinson for sergio...... in a heartbeat
 
Da_O said:
That's what I'm saying. Everyone around here wants an all-star caliber player. But they're going to expect something in return and Bayless is going to be asked about if we are to inquire an all-star caliber player. I wouldn't mind letting him go as I tend to think fans overvalue their own players. I think Bayless could develop into a good player but probably never be a good PG. I see him at best being a Steve Francis type player. I hope I'm wrong though.
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The problem is, who is out there actively shopping young "star" point guards? The only guys I've heard being available are either somewhat mediocre (Mike Conley), or old and on the verge of breaking down (Kidd).

Secondly, you say Bayless might have Steve Francis type potential ... imagine Stevie Franchise in his prime with a willingness to play defense, solid character and a work ethic? Well, I guess that pretty much would make Bayless the antithesis of Francis, who was always known as an arrogant, selfish player who was pretty much only interested in getting his and somebody who ultimately squandered his talents.
 
Nikolokolus said:
The problem is, who is out there actively shopping young "star" point guards? The only guys I've heard being available are either somewhat mediocre (Mike Conley), or old and on the verge of breaking down (Kidd).

Secondly, you say Bayless might have Steve Francis type potential ... imagine Stevie Franchise in his prime with a willingness to play defense, solid character and a work ethic? Well, I guess that pretty much would make Bayless the antithesis of Francis, who was always known as an arrogant, selfish player who was pretty much only interested in getting his and somebody who ultimately squandered his talents.
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I didn't say an All-star type player only meant All-star point guards. An all-star SF would probably cost us just as much. I have seen the willingness to play defense but willingness hasn't made him a good defender. I'm pretty sure Francis had a work ethic to get to all-star level, now their character is much different but hey I don't know either of them so I can't say what goes on through Bayless' head.
 
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i want the PG who is going to guide a championship team to be able to knock down the jumper consistently. bayless needs a lot of work.
 
garden of oden said:
i want the PG who is going to guide a championship team to be able to knock down the jumper consistently. bayless needs a lot of work.
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I don't think Bayless needs as much work as you think. He's a rookie only recently getting substantial minutes and he was still able to do what tonight? 19 pts 6 assts 2 steals? Off the bench? The guy shot well in college. He'll shoot better for us. Remember that game in summer league against Phoenix? Give him some time to get comfortable and he will be able to "knock down the jumper consistently."
 
Our rookies are rookies, but damn they each have some high ceilings. I haven't put this together before, but I've noticed that all four of them are remarkably explosive dunkers.

I hope Jerryd's attitude is contagious. I think he could end up being a co-captain someday.
 
MIXUM said:
Theres nobody else on the blazers who has the energy that bayless ... I dont think blake would settle for a backup role behind bayless at this point.
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Are you sure? You still taking your meds? I don't know you seem to be wishy-washy on some of your issues lately and its causing me headaches.
I agree that Sergio has his moments with the "Spanish connection" but I have a feeling hes the odd man out and I would like to keep Bayless.
 
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This is hard for me to post but I agree with Mixum for the most part. Bayless has the fire and attitude winning teams need. I wouldn't trade Bayless for anyone except a all star type PG. I don't care what some poster say Bayless is going to be a very good PG in the NBA. Hell he is better then quite a few starting PG's on a few teams already!
 
Tortimer said:
Hell he is better then quite a few starting PG's on a few teams already!
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Agreed. but that is also easy to say when the majority of our bench would start on 3/4s of the teams in the league. :cheers:
 
Natebishop3 said:
(Waiting patiently for Maris to enter this thread) :morningtime:
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Since Maris isn't here, I'll say it. Bayless doesn't look like a point guard...he is an exciting scorer and I love watching him dunk...but he sure as heck wasn't a badass till Paul left the game. He looked like a rookie playing against cp3.
 
its been said so many times before...too bad we cant combine our pgs


blake can shoot but sucks on defense and doesnt slash but seems to calm team in tough spots

bayless slashes but cant shoot with avg defense...also has the most energy

sergio is the best passer but cant do anything else



ADD THE 3 TOGETHER AND YOU HAVE A STUD
 
I think we're better off without Blake playing- it gives us the chance to develop both bayless and sergio. I think Bayless will likely be the keeper, though. I see him developing into Devin Harris.
 
anonymous gambler said:
I think we're better off without Blake playing- it gives us the chance to develop both bayless and sergio. I think Bayless will likely be the keeper, though. I see him developing into Devin Harris.
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I hope so...but right now I see more Steve Francis.
 
if bayless could develop his jump shot and three.....we wont need a trade for a pg. kid is a great finisher, can slash and has a winning attitude. also seems like a guy who doesnt take sh!t.

Its a big IF though. The other thing is he will need to become more of a pure pg as fas as getting the ball to his teamates. Lots of work but at leats you see potential. Sergio is as good as hes gonna get IMO.
 
hmmmm steve francis anyday of the week over sergio rodriquez lol
 
The problem with Steve is he needed the ball all the time and that doesn't allow your teammates to get into the game.
 
roydezlaw said:
The problem with Steve is he needed the ball all the time and that doesn't allow your teammates to get into the game.
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Bayless is nothing like Steve Francis. It doesn't seem to matter what Bayless does or how much improvement he makes with the little PT he has gotten some people will never be happy. Bayless is going to be a star PG in this league on the Blazers or another team if we make the mistake and trade him.
 
The problem with Steve is he needed the ball all the time and that doesn't allow your teammates to get into the game.
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Well that certainly hasn't been the case lately, with like 16 assists in the past 3 games or so? He seems to know when to take it to the rim or when to just make the safe pass and defer... While he isn't going to be the pass first PG like Kidd or something, he is the new type of prototypical PG like Devin Harris, Tony Parker and even somewhat Deron Williams and Monta Ellis (as a combo guard). He is a nice fit w/ Roy, and can really take pressure off of him like last night.
 
I know we haven't seen it very often this season, but Bayless is actually a much better shooter than we have seen from the perimiter. I know he can knock down those shots. I think right now, he is just hurrying it a little bit, because a lot of rookies have to make the adjustment to speed up their release in the NBA, and that can throw you off for a bit. In case you haven't looked at his college stats, here they are:

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/arizona/jerryd-bayless

You will note, he shot 40% from the 3 point line. That is really one of the only holes offensivly in his game.
 
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