One thing I have never understood about Paul's money

[BonesJones]

Here’s your whole list of that offseasons signings


BRADLEY BEAL: 5 years, $128 million with Wizards
TIMOFEY MOZGOV: 4 years, $64 million with Lakers
DEMAR DEROZAN: 5 years, $145 million with Raptors
ANDRE DRUMMOND: 5 years, $130 million with Pistons
NICOLAS BATUM: 5 years, $120 million with Hornets
JORDAN CLARKSON: 4 years, $50 million with Lakers
HASSAN WHITESIDE: 4-years, $98 million with Heat
ISH SMITH: 3-year contract with Pistons
D.J. AUGUSTIN: 4-years, $29 million with Magic
JEREMY LIN: 3 years, $36 million with Nets
AL JEFFERSON: 3 years, $30 million with Pacers
JERRYD BAYLESS: 3 years, $27 million with 76ers
MIRZA TELETOVIC: 3 years, $30 million with Bucks
CHANDLER PARSONS: 4 years, $94 million with Grizzlies
EVAN TURNER: 4 years, $70 million with Blazers
EVAN FOURNIER: 5 years, $85 million with Magic
MATTHEW DELLAVEDOVA: 4 years, $38 million with Bucks (Cavs can match)
SOLOMON HILL: 4 years, $48 million with Pelicans
JEFF GREEN: 1 year, $15 million with Magic
DARRELL ARTHUR: 3 years, $23 million with Nuggets
DWIGHT HOWARD: 3 years, $70 million with Hawks
MIKE CONLEY: 5 years, $153 million with Grizzlies
JUSTIN HAMILTON: 2 years, $6 million with Nets
JARED DUDLEY: 3 years, $30 million with Suns
E'TWAUN MOORE: 4 years, $34 million with Pelicans
JOAKIM NOAH: 4 years, $72 million with Knicks
KENT BAZEMORE: 4 years, $70 million with Hawks
JOE JOHNSON: 2 years, $22 million with Jazz
LUOL DENG: 4 years, $72 million with Lakers
JON LEUER: 4 years, $42 million with Pistons
ARRON AFFLALO: 2 years, $25 million with Kings
BISMACK BIYOMBO: 4 years, $72 million with Magic
TREVOR BOOKER: 2 years, $18.5 million with Nets
RYAN ANDERSON: 4 years, $80 million with Rockets
MARVIN WILLIAMS: 4 years, $54.5 million with Hornets
ANTHONY TOLLIVER: 2 years, $16 million with Kings
AL HORFORD: 4 years, $113 million with the Celtics
COURTNEY LEE: 4 years, $50 million with the Knicks
IAN MAHINMI: 4 years, $64 million with the Wizards
AUSTIN RIVERS: 3 years, $35 million with the Clippers
ERIC GORDON: 4 years, $53 million with the Rockets
WESLEY JOHNSON: 3 years, $18 million with the Clippers
JAMES ENNIS: 2 years, $6 million with Grizzlies
ANDREW NICHOLSON: 4 years, $26 million with Wizards
TYLER JOHNSON: 4 years, $50 million with Nets, Heat match
COLE ALDRICH: 3 years, $22 million with Timberwolves
GARRETT TEMPLE: 3 years, $24 million with Kings
TOMAS SATORANSKY: 3 years, $9 million with Wizards
JAMAL CRAWFORD: 3 years, $42 million with Clippers
RAJON RONDO: 2 years, $28 million with Bulls
MALCOLM DELANEY: 2 years with Hawks
MATT BARNES: 2 years, $12 million with Kings
DWIGHT POWELL: 4 years, $37 million with Mavericks
DERON WILLIAMS: 1 year, $10 million with Mavericks
TARIK BLACK: 2 years, $12.5 million with Lakers
RAMON SESSIONS: 2 years, $12.5 million with Hornets
SHAUN LIVINGSTON: 1 year, $5.8 million option picked up by Warriors
SERGIO RODRIGUEZ: 1 year, $8 million with 76ers
HARRISON BARNES: 4 years, $94 million with Mavericks
PAU GASOL: 2 years, $30+ million with Spurs
BRANDON JENNINGS: 1 year, $5 million with Knicks
LUC RICHARD MBAH A MOUTE: 2 years, $4.5 million with Clippers
ZAZA PACHULIA: 1 year, $2.9 million with Warriors
ROY HIBBERT: 1 year, $5 million with Hornets
LANCE THOMAS: 4 years, $27 million with Knicks
SETH CURRY: 2 years, $6 million with Mavericks
DIRK NOWITZKI: 2 years, $50 million with Mavericks
GERALD HENDERSON: 2 years, $18 million with 76ers
DAVID WEST: 1 year, $1.55 million vs. Warriors
MINDAUGAS KUZMINSKAS: 2 years, $6 million with Knicks
WILLY HERNANGOMEZ: TBD with Knicks
JASON SMITH: 3 years, $16 million with Wizards
NENE: 1 year, $2.9 million with Rockets
BRANDON RUSH: 1 year, $3.5 million with Timberwolves
BRIAN ROBERTS: 1 year, $1.05 million with Hornets
LANGSTON GALLOWAY: 2 years, $10-12 million with Pelicans
RICHARD JEFFERSON: 2 years, $5 million with Cavaliers
LEANDRO BARBOSA: 2 years, $8 million with Suns
BOBAN MARJANOVIC: 3 years, $21 million with Pistons
DEWAYNE DEDMON: 2 years $6 million with Spurs
MANU GINOBILI: 1 year, $14 million with Spurs
MARCELO HUERTAS: 2 years with the Lakers
AMIR JOHNSON: Celtics picked up player option
IAN CLARK: 1 year deal with the Warriors
FESTUS EZELI: 2 years, $15 million with the Trail Blazers
ALLEN CRABBE: 4 years, $75 million with Nets, Trail Blazers match
MARREESE SPEIGHTS: Minimum contract with the Clippers
TROY DANIELS: 3 years, $10 million with the Grizzlies
DERRICK WILLIAMS: 1 year, $5 million with Heat
TIM FRAZIER: 2 years, $4 million with Pelicans
WAYNE ELLINGTON: 2 years, $12 million with Heat
MARCUS THORNTON: 1 year, minimum with Wizards
JAMES MCADOO: 1 year, minimum with Warriors
JAMES JOHNSON: 1 year, $4 million with Heat
MEYERS LEONARD: 4 years, $41 million with Blazers
WILLIE REED: 2 years, minimum with Heat
JARRETT JACK: 1 year, minimum with Hawks
UDONIS HASLEM: 1 year, $4 million with Heat
GREIVIS VASQUEZ: 1 year, $5 million with the Nets
JARED SULLINGER: 1 year, $6 million with Raptors
KRIS HUMPHRIES: 1 year, $4 million with Hawks
SASHA VUJACIC: 1 year, minimum with Knicks
LUIS SCOLA: 1 year with Nets
CHRISTIAN WOOD: 2 years with Hornets
JONATHAN GIBSON: 3 years with Mavericks
PABLO PRIGIONI: 2 years, minimum with Rockets
JOE HARRIS: 2 years, $2 million with the Nets
MAURICE NDOUR: 2 years with the Knicks
ANTHONY BENNETT: 2 years, minimum with the Nets
RANDY FOYE: 1 year with the Nets
MANU GINOBILI: 1 year, $14 million with the Spurs
QUINCY ACY: 2 years, minimum with the Mavericks
RAYMOND FELTON: 1 year, minimum with the Clippers
TERRENCE JONES: 1 year, likely minimum with the Pelicans
DAVIS BERTANS: 2 years, $4 million with the Spurs
CHRIS ANDERSEN: 1 year, minimum with the Cavaliers
BRANDON BASS: 1 year, minimum with the Clippers
JORDAN HILL: 2 years, $8 million with Wolves
ANDERSON VAREJAO: 1 year, minimum with Warriors
ALEX ABRINES: 3 years, $18 million with Thunder
MILES PLUMLEE: 4 years, $52 million with Bucks
AARON BROOKS: 1 year, $2.5 million with Pacers
MIKE MILLER: 2 years, $5 million with Nuggets
GERALD GREEN: 1 year, $1.4 million with Celtics
TYLER ZELLER: 2 years, $16 million with Celtics
ALONZO GEE: 1 year, minimum with Pelicans
NICOLAS BRUSSINO: 3 years, minimum with Mavericks
DION WAITERS: 1 year, $2.9 million with Heat
MAURICE HARKLESS: 4 years, $40 million with Blazers
DAVID LEE: 2 years, $3.2 million with Spurs
KEVIN SERAPHIN: 2 years, $3.6 million with Pacers


Players for cheaper you could of thrown offers to that I feel we need on this team.

Etwuan moore
Jeff green
Joe Johnson
Courtney lee
Wesley Johnson
Wayne Ellington

These are players I quickly looked through here who I would of pulled the trigger on at the time before signing turner, and these guys are cheaper, some way cheaper. There are probably more on this list you could easily throw out offers too but for me this is on first glance

You forgot James Johnson.

 

[BonesJones]

Jeff green signed for one year at $15 mill. He wouldn't be on our team this year or we would have had to pay him more.

NM, not gonna go through name by name. Sure he could have signed them, and what would their value be now? How would have they improved the team?

You admit you wouldn't trade for them now, but if you would have then, they would be on the team now. Hmmm Maybe NO DID have some for site and realized he didn't wan them on the team either? But you still would have signed them knowing now you wouldn't want them.

Hmmm okay..

Do you not see how ass backward that is considering you are expecting NO to have insight that Meyers and Turner shouldn't have been signed to that much?

Cant have it both ways.

We would've had his non-guard rights where we could've signed him to a contract up to $18M annually (120%) So yes, we could've kept him.

 

[BonesJones]

You no what’s funny about most message boards, at least the ones I have participated on, is that a lot of people really feel like they are being attacked if everyone doesn’t acknowledge their opinions as an absolute fact or truth. How lame would it be if you posted something and then everyone just accepted it. There is a reason none of us work in an NBA front office. I know I can be a dick or come across harsh sometimes but every time I post something I fully expect 50% of the board will probably disagree and I’m fine with that, the fact people are even acknowledging your opinions by agreeing or disagreeing is a good thing in itself. I’ll stop preaching now.

It's not an attack to respectfully disagree. There's other, differing cases though.

 

[BonesJones]

Expiring contracts aren't valuable unless your trading them to a team looking to create cap space while taking on (likely) mediocre to poor contracts in the process. If everyone is on a fair deal, it's not difficult to match salary as the opposing team likely wouldn't care how many years are remaining on a players contract if it's rrasonable, unless they were trying to shed salary.

So Turner is valuable because he could help another team shed salary in 2020? That's a stretch.