Politics Open carry/concealed carry

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What is the best firearm carry policy?

  • Allow open carry

    Votes: 8 61.5%

  • Require license for open carry

    Votes: 4 30.8%

  • Ban open carry

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Allow concealed carry

    Votes: 3 23.1%

  • Require license for concealed carry

    Votes: 4 30.8%

  • Ban concealed carry

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Same rules apply to handguns and rifles

    Votes: 6 46.2%

  • Carry rules for handguns should be more restrictive than those for rifles

    Votes: 1 7.7%

  • Carry rules for rifles should be more restrictive than those for handguns

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    13
I heard an overly zealous realtor in central Oregon was carrying his gun in the woods and ended up shooting his neighbor's horse.
 
Denny Crane said:
I heard an overly zealous realtor in central Oregon was carrying his gun in the woods and ended up shooting his neighbor's horse.
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guess he was really hungry and it's always open season for horse hunting
 
donkiez said:
Like it and support it, at least at first thought. Problem is you run into the "gun list" crowd who think this is just another attempt to disarm them.
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I am that crowd. No one is disarming anyone. Have your damn permit or be able to show it on court, or lose your damn gun (which you shouldnt have) and a shitload of money
 
Open carry is legal in most states isn't it?
 
3RA1N1AC said:
Open carry is legal in most states isn't it?
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Shocking that Texas is listed as prohibiting open carry.
 
California, New York, Illinois, Florida, South Carolina and DC.

Wonder what the gun violence rates of those states are compared to places that don't allow open carry. If gun control advocates are correct, they should be lower. Somehow, I doubt it.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
California, New York, Illinois, Florida, South Carolina and DC.

Wonder what the gun violence rates of those states are compared to places that don't allow open carry. If gun control advocates are correct, they should be lower. Somehow, I doubt it.
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Any state with strict gun laws, probably went that way because they were cesspools of guns. I'm sure they still are.
 
I think to own a gun, you should have to have a background check that includes a mental health component. To carry, either open or concealed, I think we should have to get certified including actual target shooting tests and a requirement of a yearly refresher class and certain amount of logged hours at gun ranges. I'm not set on what the levels should be, but I think that if we carry, we should be proven competent. Most likely the yearly class would be a 6 hour course, 50% classroom and 50% range. The logged hours would be in the neighborhood of 25 hours a year or about 30 minutes per week.

I also think that there should be some requirement for people to at least own a gun safe or quality gun locks. But if we get those more sensible rules squared away, I don't think we need to have all the rules that are based on how scary guns look. Get rid of magazine restrictions, barrel length stipulations and handle type crap. Let people own and shoot what they want to as long as they have proven that they are responsible enough to 1) pass more detailed background checks and 2) be well trained on safety protocols and 3) be well trained on actually being able to hit what they are aiming at and not hit what they aren't.

By the way, cops should also have much more stringent testing qualifications.
 
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I think to own a gun, you should have to have a background check that includes a mental health component. To carry, either open or concealed, I think we should have to get certified including actual target shooting tests and a requirement of a yearly refresher class and certain amount of logged hours at gun ranges. I'm not set on what the levels should be, but I think that if we carry, we should be proven competent. Most likely the yearly class would be a 6 hour course, 50% classroom and 50% range. The logged hours would be in the neighborhood of 25 hours a year or about 30 minutes per week.

I also think that there should be some requirement for people to at least own a gun safe or quality gun locks. But if we get those more sensible rules squared away, I don't think we need to have all the rules that are based on how scary guns look. Get rid of magazine restrictions, barrel length stipulations and handle type crap. Let people own and shoot what they want to as long as they have proven that they are responsible enough to 1) pass more detailed background checks and 2) be well trained on safety protocols and 3) be well trained on actually being able to hit what they are aiming at and not hit what they aren't.

By the way, cops should also have much more stringent testing qualifications.
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very good post, not sure how you'd address ex military or rural populations with shooting ranges and classes though. the mental health aspect of gun ownership is a very very important issue. I agree 100% that education into gun safety should be taught across the board and think it should be taught as an elective course from middle school up but not mandatory. We have guns whether necessary or not and a lot of people are reckless with them.
 
riverman said:
That's my first choice
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There's a reason why they are able to sustain neutrality. There's a reason why Hitler did not attack Switzerland. Every man there is well versed in the use and maintenance of firearms. Why? Because every single man regardless of income must serve in the well regulated local militia.
 
dviss1 said:
There's a reason why they are able to sustain neutrality. There's a reason why Hitler did not attack Switzerland. Every man there is well versed in the use and maintenance of firearms. Why? Because every single man regardless of income must serve in the well regulated local militia.
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i didnt know that but i dig it
 
The problem is every overweight gun nut that wants to carry his AR 15 to the local political rally seems to think that they can fight off our military...
 
i wish gun safety was offered in school, or better yet, parents weren't so shitty and educated their children. not too long ago some local kid here was taking slefies for facebook with his new gun, stuck the thing to his head and pulled the trigger. he thought it wasn't loaded, but of course it was. this kind of shit happens all the time because people are idiots. i took 10 minutes of gun safety from my old roommate when i bought my first gun because my parents were anti gun.
rule 1) the gun is ALWAYS loaded, treat it as such
rule 2)Never point the muzzle at anything you are not willing to kill or destroy
rule 3) finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
rule 4) be aware of your surroundings and if there is any doubt about what is behind the target do not shoot.
rule 5) if you point that gun at me or my dog you better shoot both of us because if i see it you're dead.

it's really simple. follow those 5 rules and you'll never kill yourself or another.
 
dviss1 said:
The problem is every overweight gun nut that wants to carry his AR 15 to the local political rally seems to think that they can fight off our military...
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i wouldnt want to fight our military, my hope is they would not want to fight us and would rather fight the one who gave them the order to attack our own.
 
By the By, I didn't vote because Switzerland wasn't an option.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
How is that "none of the above"? Sounds like poll options 1, 4, & 7 describe your position perfectly.
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Not at all.

All 3 contain the word "Allow" implying I need someone's permission.

I don't, and if I did it would be an infringement on my Second Amendment rights.
 
dviss1 said:
The problem is every overweight gun nut that wants to carry his AR 15 to the local political rally seems to think that they can fight off our military...
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Why you gotta fat shame bro?
 
dviss1 said:
The problem is every overweight gun nut that wants to carry his AR 15 to the local political rally seems to think that they can fight off our military...
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Nobody thought a bunch of dudes in black pajamas could fight off our military in Vietnam.

There's a reason why you don't want to get into guerrilla warfare against an insurgency. If it came down to our populace fighting against our military, it sure as hell wouldn't be a conventional war. It would be a dirty, horrible, muddy war.
 
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