Oregon State students to be forced to take course on "Social Justice"

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Says someone who went to college and postgraduate school. If you don't think people should learn things and have new experiences when they go to college, then I don't know what to tell you.

I feel like this is a sex thing... Lol

 

[Natebishop3]

Says someone who went to college and postgraduate school. If you don't think people should learn things and have new experiences when they go to college, then I don't know what to tell you.

I went to college as well, and in a bastion of liberal beliefs, introspective thought as to what you believe and why, your hopes and dreams for your future, and learning about other people's experiences.

The truth is that everyone just assumes that there are no differing opinions, because how could anyone NOT be a Democrat? I saw a lot of circle-jerks and very little discussion. These kids don't want to hear different opinions or open their minds. They want their "safe space" where they can bash on those uneducated, hateful Republicans.

It got to the point where I wouldn't open my mouth because these people are extremely emotional about their beliefs.

 

[santeesioux]

I went to college as well, and in a bastion of liberal beliefs, introspective thought as to what you believe and why, your hopes and dreams for your future, and learning about other people's experiences.

The truth is that everyone just assumes that there are no differing opinions, because how could anyone NOT be a Democrat? I saw a lot of circle-jerks and very little discussion. These kids don't want to hear different opinions or open their minds. They want their "safe space" where they can bash on those uneducated, hateful Republicans.

It got to the point where I wouldn't open my mouth because these people are extremely emotional about their beliefs.

You're supposed to be taught how to think critically in college, and it seems like they aren't being taught that anymore.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

You're supposed to be taught how to think critically in college, and it seems like they aren't being taught that anymore.

Critical thinking leads to logic, logic leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering, suffering leads to being a patriarchal shitlord.

 

[riverman]

College is very valuable if used correctly...a lot of kids work those shit jobs just to get through it. It's not necessary...it's like music...you can join the orchestra and play 3rd clarinet badly or you can become the next John Williams....don't buy an expensive guitar if you're not going to play it. Don't go into debt for college if you have no clue what you want to do in life

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

College is very valuable if used correctly...a lot of kids work those shit jobs just to get through it. It's not necessary...it's like music...you can join the orchestra and play 3rd clarinet badly or you can become the next John Williams....don't buy an expensive guitar if you're not going to play it. Don't go into debt for college if you have no clue what you want to do in life

This is a big reason why I have yet to go back to school in a long time. I don't wanna waste time and resources on something I'm not 100% sure what I'm getting myself into. I've really been thinking about a trade though, like HVAC.

 

[Natebishop3]

Don't go into debt for college if you have no clue what you want to do in life

Unfortunately that's not how we're raised.

When you finish high school, you go to college. Everyone goes to college. You're a loser if you don't go to college. We were told we needed to go to college to get a good job. Unfortunately most of these kids have no clue what they want to do, or how to figure out what they might enjoy doing. I admit, I have a decent chunk of debt from college. I dicked around and wasted time taking classes that were interesting, but served no purpose. But that should be totally okay. We should be able to go to college to expand our minds and learn things that might not necessarily to the real world, because it's those classes that shape who we are as a person. If you only learn things that are relevant to your desired profession, that's a fairly narrow scope of education.

 

[santeesioux]

This is a big reason why I have yet to go back to school in a long time. I don't wanna waste time and resources on something I'm not 100% sure what I'm getting myself into. I've really been thinking about a trade though, like HVAC.

I'm the same way, plus with how crazy it seems to be on most campuses these days I'd be like Nate and have to keep my mouth shut, although it isn't that bad in a more conservative place like this. I haven't seen any crazy shit from the local colleges at least.

 

[riverman]

This is a big reason why I have yet to go back to school in a long time. I don't wanna waste time and resources on something I'm not 100% sure what I'm getting myself into. I've really been thinking about a trade though, like HVAC.

My son graduated with a full academic scholarship but now that he's working is thinking of taking different courses to give him an edge in the market...graduate school is 200k and he'd really rather start his own business than take on that debt...his degree has helped him compete so far and live where he wants to so, without his degree he wouldn't have the job he's got now...it was required

 

[riverman]

Unfortunately that's not how we're raised.

When you finish high school, you go to college. Everyone goes to college. You're a loser if you don't go to college. We were told we needed to go to college to get a good job. Unfortunately most of these kids have no clue what they want to do, or how to figure out what they might enjoy doing. I admit, I have a decent chunk of debt from college. I dicked around and wasted time taking classes that were interesting, but served no purpose. But that should be totally okay. We should be able to go to college to expand our minds and learn things that might not necessarily to the real world, because it's those classes that shape who we are as a person. If you only learn things that are relevant to your desired profession, that's a fairly narrow scope of education.

travel....learn another language..buckle down when you've found something you want to do

 

[Natebishop3]

travel....learn another language..buckle down when you've found something you want to do

Sure, but that's not what social pressure is telling kids as they graduate high school.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I'm the same way, plus with how crazy it seems to be on most campuses these days I'd be like Nate and have to keep my mouth shut, although it isn't that bad in a more conservative place like this. I haven't seen any crazy shit from the local colleges at least.

Yeah, I've pretty much given up on the idea of a large college. I will not fit in and I don't conform, I don't wanna have to take classes that force me to adjust papers to what the teachers agenda is. And I'm not smart enough to be in a STEM field I bet so, trade it will likely be.

 

[riverman]

Sure, but that's not what social pressure is telling kids as they graduate high school.

Someone just told you something else....history doesn't have to repeat itself but to each his own...I loved school but got my degree long after high school

 

[riverman]

Yeah, I've pretty much given up on the idea of a large college. I will not fit in and I don't conform, I don't wanna have to take classes that force me to adjust papers to what the teachers agenda is. And I'm not smart enough to be in a STEM field I bet so, trade it will likely be.

Use the internet...two of my coworkers got degrees online..didn't have any social commitments to do it

 

[santeesioux]

Use the internet...two of my coworkers got degrees online..didn't have any social commitments to do it

You still interact with the professors and other students, I've taken some before. If you want to be a complete social recluse that wouldn't work that well, although it's a lot better than being on campus.

Most of the other students taking the online classes, at least 4 years ago in the ones I was in, mainly seemed to be 30 plus or in the military so they aren't your typical crazy 19 year old with no life experience.

 

[Sedatedfork]

I went to college as well, and in a bastion of liberal beliefs, introspective thought as to what you believe and why, your hopes and dreams for your future, and learning about other people's experiences.

The truth is that everyone just assumes that there are no differing opinions, because how could anyone NOT be a Democrat? I saw a lot of circle-jerks and very little discussion. These kids don't want to hear different opinions or open their minds. They want their "safe space" where they can bash on those uneducated, hateful Republicans.

It got to the point where I wouldn't open my mouth because these people are extremely emotional about their beliefs.

I do get what you are saying. I had a very different college experience from you. I went to a small liberal arts school for undergrad, but there were a lot of differing political beliefs and social beliefs. We did not have a lot of racial diversity. I really did not get exposed to as many ideas and beliefs in college as I would have liked in hindsight, but I was 18, what did I know?

 

[Sedatedfork]

People are also apathetic, like that recent racially abusive incident captured on Max where almost no one did anything to intervene. Perhaps a class like this helped those that did intervene feel empowered to do so. Perhaps if others had taken the class they would have felt empowered to speak. Not everything is a liberal conspiracy.

 

[Natebishop3]

People are also apathetic, like that recent racially abusive incident captured on Max where almost no one did anything to intervene. Perhaps a class like this helped those that did intervene feel empowered to do so. Perhaps if others had taken the class they would have felt empowered to speak. Not everything is a liberal conspiracy.

That video doesn't tell the whole story. I saw people who posted that the man is very clearly mentally disturbed and homeless. Apparently he's pretty well known in downtown Portland, and most people realize that he's not all there. There's little point in arguing with someone that's insane, and if you engage them you're only going to escalate the issue.

 

[oldfisherman]

If you gave $5,730,000 in grants to OSU over a 4 year period, do you think you could influence the bias and agenda of their professors?

A well known foundation with a very clear agenda has done just that. Here is a list of grants given to OSU by the Packard foundation over a 4 year period.

2011 $1,000,000 grant
2012 $1,000,000
2013 $230.000
2013 $1,000,000
2014 $2,250,000
2014 $250,000

OSU students and professors use the grants to conduct studies on how to “SAVE” the oceans. In every study, they find the best way to “SAVE” the ocean is to stop all fishing, which also happens to be the same agenda of the Packard foundation, stop all fishing.

However, now the Packard foundation has studies, which they funded, to support their agenda to stop all fishing. If they had used the same amount of money to find ways to “BALANCE” the ocean’s eco-system, the oceans would be in better shape.

This is the same Packard foundation that previously funded much of the program to shut down fishing along huge areas of the Oregon Coast. At first, the Oregon Governor went along with their program because it would not cost the state any money. Packard was footing the bill, but in return, would manage those areas. Then the Governor woke up and realized that with the strings attached to the funding, The Packard foundation would have total control over much of the Oregon Coastal waters, not the state.

Packard shifted their financial funding from the State politicians to the Universities. Packard is going after OSU to help them gain control over as much coast waters as possible. The Packard Foundation already controls a big chunk of CA coastal waters, and CA can not do anything about it (another reason the OR Gov backed out). Oh, and if a student does not agree with the findings of the OSU study to shut down fishing, his grades suffer. Now that is Bias by the bushel-full.


The OSU Bias Response Team is bullshit. They need a response team for the professors and Adm.

 

[blue32]

Says someone who went to college and postgraduate school. If you don't think people should learn things and have new experiences when they go to college, then I don't know what to tell you.

Your opinion only. And honestly what you said here in reply is a lot different than what you originally posted. College is different and means quite a few different things to many people. Trying to ram your beliefs down others throats is exactly what is wrong with today's university and society.

I went to college as well, and in a bastion of liberal beliefs, introspective thought as to what you believe and why, your hopes and dreams for your future, and learning about other people's experiences.

The truth is that everyone just assumes that there are no differing opinions, because how could anyone NOT be a Democrat? I saw a lot of circle-jerks and very little discussion. These kids don't want to hear different opinions or open their minds. They want their "safe space" where they can bash on those uneducated, hateful Republicans.

It got to the point where I wouldn't open my mouth because these people are extremely emotional about their beliefs.

Pretty much spot on. If you don't fall in line you get piled on.

Critical thinking leads to logic, logic leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering, suffering leads to being a patriarchal shitlord.

 

[blue32]

People are also apathetic, like that recent racially abusive incident captured on Max where almost no one did anything to intervene. Perhaps a class like this helped those that did intervene feel empowered to do so. Perhaps if others had taken the class they would have felt empowered to speak. Not everything is a liberal conspiracy.

Or perhaps people want to mind their own fucking business sometimes and let others stand up for themselves. I didn't see the video but am offering an alternate POV. Not every single life situation needs a god damned baby sitter.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

This is a big reason why I have yet to go back to school in a long time. I don't wanna waste time and resources on something I'm not 100% sure what I'm getting myself into. I've really been thinking about a trade though, like HVAC.

I grew up in the HVAC business. Shit wages unless you own the business. And cold winters can be a death march. There's a reason I went another direction. Just sayin'.........

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Awesome.... we need MORE SJWs running around online.

I hate SJWs but I think it's undeniable that understanding social justice is important.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I hate SJWs but I think it's undeniable that understanding social justice is important.

Understanding social justice is important.

Its just sad it ends up with white people scared to say anything (and i get it, some of the white people that speak up sound like morons) and feeling like shit for stuff they had no control over.

 

[Sedatedfork]

That video doesn't tell the whole story. I saw people who posted that the man is very clearly mentally disturbed and homeless. Apparently he's pretty well known in downtown Portland, and most people realize that he's not all there. There's little point in arguing with someone that's insane, and if you engage them you're only going to escalate the issue.

Well, maybe you can't change that person's view, but I am sure the people being verbally attacked and screamed at with "fucking ni**er" probably would have appreciated some support. I am sure they were very afraid. Watch the video and see.

Your opinion only. And honestly what you said here in reply is a lot different than what you originally posted. College is different and means quite a few different things to many people. Trying to ram your beliefs down others throats is exactly what is wrong with today's university and society.

I don't really see any inconsistency in any of my posts here on this topic.

Or perhaps people want to mind their own fucking business sometimes and let others stand up for themselves. I didn't see the video but am offering an alternate POV. Not every single life situation needs a god damned baby sitter.

I think if you watched the video you might think differently. It was nearly physical. The man was shouting racial epithets at the two women from a very short distance away. The man was a very large man. I wouldn't have been surprised if the man was close to physically assaulting the two women.

 

[Sinobas]

How is it just big business?

Also, kids with 75k in debt are stupid. If you stay at an in state college that is public like oregon state, tuition and books are like 2500/term.

College is a good thing, just dont be a history major. Major in a STEM field.

Average tuition and fees per year for in state college is $9,500. So that's almost $40,000 right there. Not to mention living expenses and probably not working enough to break even there.

 

[Sinobas]

They shouldn't force anyone to take that stupid class. Yeah, yeah, slavery, slavery and Jim Crow laws and blah blah blah blah blah. I think we all know the history. Black people are causing most of the racism in the US today, because they are the most racist race out there by far, and they keep stirring up animosity. I can see why employers would want to steer clear of someone who might sue for discrimination because they were fired or whatever for fucking up.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

This isn't the funniest thing he's done but these kids scare the shit out of me.

 

[blue32]

I don't really see any inconsistency in any of my posts here on this topic.

That's cool, I do, but we'll leave it at that. Either way, your take on College and its use to students isn't a be all end all reason for why they may choose to go. I certainly don't and didn't think that. My reasons were quite different for example.

I think if you watched the video you might think differently. It was nearly physical. The man was shouting racial epithets at the two women from a very short distance away. The man was a very large man. I wouldn't have been surprised if the man was close to physically assaulting the two women.

Who cares if the man is big? Did he assault them? Was there a weapon? Until then, let people handle their own business sometimes, IMO. They can call the police/authorities. Until physical altercation takes place people really should "mind their own"; let people problem solve on their own. Obviously my stance changes if the aggressor has a weapon, or gets physical.

 

[Natebishop3]

This isn't the funniest thing he's done but these kids scare the shit out of me.

Good god that's hilarious. I have always loved that guy.