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The Oregon Supreme Court on Monday certified the ballot title for an initiative that would require gun owners to store the weapons with trigger locks, cables or in a locked container.

Supporters of the proposal can now begin gathering the more than 88,000 signatures they must submit by July 6 in order to get it on the November ballot.

Relatives of two people killed in the 2012 Clackamas Town Center shooting are among the chief petitioners. The campaign has a website, oregonsafegunstorage.com.

In addition to regulating gun storage, Initiative Petition 44 would require firearm owners to supervise children using guns and report lost or stolen firearms to the police within 24 hours.

Anyone who ignored the gun storage requirements would be liable for injuries caused with the weapons, unless the injury resulted from self-defense or defense of another person.

The court issued its ballot title decision before hearing from the National Rifle Association and other gun rights and hunting groups. They had appealed on Thursday for the court to change the ballot title written by a lawyer in the office of Attorney General Ellen Rosenblum.

"The Court concluded that the ballot title certified by the attorney general substantially complies with the statutory requirements for ballot titles contained in (state law)," acting deputy state court administrator Phil Lemman wrote in an email Monday afternoon.

The Supreme Court is still considering whether to change the ballot title for another gun control proposal, Initiative Petition 43. Members of the same gun rights and hunting groups had earlier appealed for the court to modify the attorney general's ballot title for that initiative, which would ban the sales and manufacture of a broad range of semi-automatic firearms and high capacity magazines in Oregon.

Initiative Petition 43 would also require current owners of the weapons to pass a criminal background check and register with the state in order to keep their firearms.

The Portland-area clergy backing the proposal realize they will face an incredibly tight timeline to gather the necessary 88,184 signatures by July 6, so they are planning a "Signing Sabbath Weekend" June 29 through July 1. The court does not have a set deadline to finish its review, but Lemman wrote that state law does require the justices to act "expeditiously to ensure the orderly and timely circulation of the petition."

-- Hillary Borrud

https://www.oregonlive.com/politics..._supreme_court_oks_ballo.html#incart_breaking
 
Portland, Oregon is largely a pathetic, weak-minded, non-educated, cowardly collection of UnConstitutional puppets for enemies of America.
 
Initiative Petition 43 would also require current owners of the weapons to pass a criminal background check and register with the state in order to keep their firearms.


WTF? Need to do this again? I find that unacceptable.
 
Portland, Oregon is largely a pathetic, weak-minded, non-educated, cowardly collection of UnConstitutional puppets for enemies of America.

We need a ballot measure to split Oregon into 2 states. :MARIS61:
 
To my way of thinking, the "Take that gun and store it up your ass!" ballot title isn't inflammatory at all.
 
Portland, Oregon is largely a pathetic, weak-minded, non-educated, cowardly collection of UnConstitutional puppets for enemies of America.
Yeah, it's not edjeekated like the deep South or other parts that supported Trump.
 
Yeah, it's not edjeekated like the deep South or other parts that supported Trump.

:blink:
I did College recruiting three years running. 81 -83 I think. Several Schools on the coast here including OSU. Oregon did not allow us, due to our "poor corporate image" in their view.
I can not remember hiring anyone from OSU, may have but just can't remember it.
I do remember the Beavers Football team won Four games in those three years.
No team in the deep south was any where near this bad.
 
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This is what I think of the people in Portland.
They are smart people, with dumb ideas.
 
In my view...this will never pass in Oregon

Maybe you don't understand our state's mail order election process is smoke and mirrors and our Attorney General and Governor openly work for Michael Bloomberg, Tom Steyer and George Soros.
 
Yeah, it's not edjeekated like the deep South or other parts that supported Trump.

Seems you got that backwards, but not surprising because you are in one of the tiny pockets of ignorance.

Below is a map of Real America.

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Maybe you don't understand our state's mail order election process is smoke and mirrors and our Attorney General and Governor openly work for Michael Bloomberg, Tom Steyer and George Soros.
If you think voting on State issues is rigged...no need for you to vote then. I vote and could give a fuck about rich tycoons...you do what you can control...don't really buy the whole deep state theory you have but hey...to each their own
 
I support this ballet initiative. Good common sense gun laws.
 
I support this ballet initiative. Good common sense gun laws.
I'm not on board with the law that says what happens with your stolen gun you are liable for...that's a loop hole for planting reasons to just arrest people. Cop steals your gun, shoots a hooker, comes back and arrests you for murder sort of shit. I think they could make a better gun control proposal on that count alone. Still don't think it will come close to passing though.
 
I'm not on board with the law that says what happens with your stolen gun you are liable for...that's a loop hole for planting reasons to just arrest people. Cop steals your gun, shoots a hooker, comes back and arrests you for murder sort of shit. I think they could make a better gun control proposal on 8that count alone. Still don't think it will come close to passing though.

Bingo.

If someone steals your car that is parked in your driveway instead of in a garage. Then wrecks and kills someone. Are you ok with being held responsible for their death?
 
I support this ballet initiative. Good common sense gun laws.
It is a senseless proposal. Since we all know, we have a God given right to bare arms, there is no legitimate reason to register my arms with the state. The state may assume I am armed, they have no logical reason to need to know more.
 
I'm not on board with the law that says what happens with your stolen gun you are liable for...that's a loop hole for planting reasons to just arrest people. Cop steals your gun, shoots a hooker, comes back and arrests you for murder sort of shit. I think they could make a better gun control proposal on that count alone. Still don't think it will come close to passing though.
I doubt it would work like that. More like you could be charged with negligent homicide if your gun was used and the state could demonstrate that 1) you knew your gun was missing, and 2) you did not report it for 24h.

I haven’t read the law, but that’s my guess.
 
It is a senseless proposal. Since we all know, we have a God given right to bare arms, there is no legitimate reason to register my arms with the state. The state may assume I am armed, they have no logical reason to need to know more.
Don’t believe it’s one of the 10 commandments.
 
I doubt it would work like that. More like you could be charged with negligent homicide if your gun was used and the state could demonstrate that 1) you knew your gun was missing, and 2) you did not report it for 24h.

I haven’t read the law, but that’s my guess.
So it will be almost assured the Gun owner gets nailed but no particular help in finding the shooter.
 
I'm not on board with the law that says what happens with your stolen gun you are liable for...that's a loop hole for planting reasons to just arrest people. Cop steals your gun, shoots a hooker, comes back and arrests you for murder sort of shit. I think they could make a better gun control proposal on that count alone. Still don't think it will come close to passing though.

Then report your gun has been stolen and you won't be liable for anything.
 
Then report your gun has been stolen and you won't be liable for anything.

I had a gun stolen by a "friend" that was visiting. Did not realize the gun was missing for about a month (had it hidden and did not check it daily).

There are about 500,000 guns stolen every year in the USA.
 
Have a good friend that had several of his guns stolen from his home in Oregon, while he was spending the winter in Arizona. He did not find out until months later.

An x-girl friend of his knew how to get into his house and how to get into his guns. She had become a heron addict and sold the guns to feed her habit.

She went to jail for the the crime. The police did recover some of the guns, but only one was returned to my friend. The rest mysteriously disappeared from the police evidence locker.
 
yeah, unless you were traveling when it happened and found out 2 weeks after the fact
If your guns we're locked up as required in that law then you are fine. If you leave on vacation with guns laying around your house then you really shouldn't be a gun owner.
 
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