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MarAzul said:
I would love to come!

I did take one Elk a year when I lived on my ranch near the Wallowa River. It is easier to have the butcher just do me a beef but geez!
Elk is better! Yearling Moose might be the all time winner.
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Bring some fresh salt water seafood when you come.

I have harvested two moose. One season, my hunting partner and I made a pre-hunt deal. We would split the meat 50-50.

I took the equivalent of a spike moose. He took a very large moose. It had a 52" spread.

I got half of his monster, and he got half of my spike.

Months after the hunt we both agreed that we could not tell the difference in the taste and quality of the meat. His monster was tender. Right up there in chateaubrian range.
 
oldfisherman said:
It may depend on what they feed on. I like moose the best. Whitetail deer next, and then elk.

I have tons of whitetail deer and elk around my house. We used to have a lot of moose, but the wolves cleaned them out. Moose appears to also be the wolves favorite.
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I've eaten an awful lot of Venison over the last nearly 60 years. I can honestly say I've never acquired a taste for it. I've eaten elk once and instantly loved it. Never had moose, never had antelope.
 
Lanny said:
I've eaten an awful lot of Venison over the last nearly 60 years. I can honestly say I've never acquired a taste for it. I've eaten elk once and instantly loved it. Never had moose, never had antelope.
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Have you tried whitetail deer meat?
I'm not a big fan of blacktail & muledeer meat. Not sure why whitetail is so much better.
 
oldfisherman said:
Have you tried whitetail deer meat?
I'm not a big fan of blacktail & muledeer meat. Not sure why whitetail is so much better.
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No idea. We got our venison when I was young from a hunter who bragged that he could survive in the wilderness with nothing more than a hunting knife. Later I had venison provided by a couple college buddies that were prolific hunters from Coos Bay. All I knew was that it was venison and it all tasted the same. These guys were well versed on how to dress their meat and gut their animal removing the scent glands at the site of the kill.
 
oldfisherman said:
Have you tried whitetail deer meat?
I'm not a big fan of blacktail & muledeer meat. Not sure why whitetail is so much better.
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I'll be darned! I did not know Whitetail was better. Had a quite a few of them along with the many Mule deer at the ranch but never tried any.
But then I have to wonder, winning the contest over the Mule or Blacktail, does necessarily make it wonderful. It seems I would have heard this great news.
 
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20 years ago, there were very few whitetails in Oregon, most all in the NE corner. Heard they are spreading out more now.
 
oldfisherman said:
20 years ago, there were very few whitetails in Oregon, most all in the NE corner. Heard they are spreading out more now.
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I used to work out with a kid who said he was from way up in N.E. Oregon. His dad, a famous pro football player retired there.
 
oldfisherman said:
20 years ago, there were very few whitetails in Oregon, most all in the NE corner. Heard they are spreading out more now.
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I have never seen any in Coos County or western Oregon for that matter. The only place I have seen them was in Union and Wallowa Counties in NE Oregon. But then, that was, 20+ years ago.
I do see quite few deer from the boat when cruising in land, no whitetail though. Yet! Come to think of it, I heard there are some on the lower Columbia. Perhaps we shall see.
 
Beautiful country, I have done a lot of hunting, kayaking, rafting, and camping in NE Oregon.

Strongly considered moving there when I retired. Decided on Idaho, with much lower taxes and cost of living.
 
oldfisherman said:
Beautiful country, I have done a lot of hunting, kayaking, rafting, and camping in NE Oregon.

Strongly considered moving there when I retired. Decided on Idaho, with much lower taxes and cost of living.
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I worked my ranch there for seven years. Then decided it was time to build the MarAzul. I had good timber on the ranch, but I had a chance to get some better, Port Orford Cedar and escape the
cold winters and super hot summers. Damn! I am glad I did.
 
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MarAzul said:
I have never seen any in Coos County or western Oregon for that matter. The only place I have seen them was in Union and Wallowa Counties in NE Oregon. But then, that was, 20+ years ago.
I do see quite few deer from the boat when cruising in land, no whitetail though. Yet! Come to think of it, I heard there are some on the lower Columbia. Perhaps we shall see.
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There is a very small heard of whitetails around Cathlamet and on the island.

They have been there forever. They are a rare variety of whitetail, and highly protected. Don't shoot any.
 
oldfisherman said:
Have you tried whitetail deer meat?
I'm not a big fan of blacktail & muledeer meat. Not sure why whitetail is so much better.
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They are what they eat....when I hunted we put out molasses, salt blocks and mineral blocks for the deer...the other trick is to take them at dawn near a watering hole...they are not nervous then and the water cools their system...worst tasting game is game that's chased and is afraid ...the best harvest is with a bow, not a gun....no adrenaline pumping through the meat
 
MarAzul said:
I worked my ranch there for seven years. Then decided it was time to build the MarAzul. I had good timber on the ranch, but I had a chance to get some better, Port Orford Ceder and escape the
cold winters and super hot summers. Damn! I am glad I did.
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Funny you mention the cold winters and hot summers.

I'm at 3,000', the place everyone wants to be when it is hot in the summer in the valleys. But I also like the winters here.

For two years, I spent 2 weeks of the month at my home in Vancouver, and the other two weeks here in Idaho. So I had a very good comparison of the weather, and what I was getting into.

In the winter, of course in was colder in Idaho than Vancouver. But, it felt warmer. The air is much dryer in Idaho. I hated those wet just above freezing winters in Vancouver.
 
oldfisherman said:
I hated those wet just above freezing winters in Vancouver
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Yes, I know what you mean. Dripping wet, above freezing but less than 40 degrees is Cold! Cold and dry is much more tolerable.
But... those big minus numbers can change your mind. 30 , 40 minus below is cold man. All kinds of trouble with that stuff.
Wife had a Mazda RX7. Damn thing would never run again until spring once the temp hit minus territory. She loved the thing but finally dumped it after two winters I think. Maybe it took three.
I tried to fix it for her but, it ain't going to work.
 
MarAzul said:
Yes, I know what you mean. Dripping wet, above freezing but less than 40 degrees is Cold! Cold and dry is much more tolerable.
But... those big minus numbers can change your mind. 30 , 40 minus below is cold man. All kinds of trouble with that stuff.
Wife had a Mazda RX7. Damn thing would never run again until spring once the temp hit minus territory. She loved the thing but finally dumped it after two winters I think. Maybe it took three.
I tried to fix it for her but, it ain't going to work.
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Understand about the very cold winters. It gets that cold a few miles from here.

The temp does not go below zero very often where I live. Most winter days start in the teens, and then warms up. Often warm enough to melt snow. Not all of it, but enough to keep the roads dry and safe most of the time.
 
oldfisherman said:
There is a very small heard of whitetails around Cathlamet and on the island.

They have been there forever. They are a rare variety of whitetail, and highly protected. Don't shoot any.
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I can't go shooting anymore. I toddle about 50 feet with the help of my wife's arm and I'm pretty much out of it. Gotta sit down or fall down. Deer hunting days as well as nearly all fishing are behind me. No more camping, either. Life sucks if you let it. I refuse to let it. Love my blazers. Had throat cancer that now restricts my shouting. At least, I think it was the throat cancer.
 
oldfisherman said:
Understand about the very cold winters. It gets that cold a few miles from here.

The temp does not go below zero very often where I live. Most winter days start in the teens, and then warms up. Often warm enough to melt snow. Not all of it, but enough to keep the roads dry and safe most of the time.
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It hit 29 below one winter when I was in St. Louis. 110+ was not atypical in the summer. Kind of a hell hole in many ways. Great restaurants, though.
 
oldfisherman said:
Beautiful country, I have done a lot of hunting, kayaking, rafting, and camping in NE Oregon.

Strongly considered moving there when I retired. Decided on Idaho, with much lower taxes and cost of living.
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Parts of Idaho are beautiful. Ever been to Wallace?
 
oldfisherman said:
Driven through Wallace many times. Wallace is directly north of me, so the country is similar.
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I've never seen mountains and country like that before. Spell binding.
 
We should lock up our cold winters and hot summers in boxes.
 
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