Oregonlive forum trade rumor

[BigGameDamian]

Yeh, the only way I would even think about this if it was conditional on a second trade. Varajeo and a first round 2014 pick for Wright, Leonard and Claver. But Batum seems too central to what we do to trade him. There are ways to get Varajeo without trading Batum.

Varajeo and a first round 2014 pick for Wright, Leonard and Claver

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Varajeo and a first round 2014 pick for Wright, Leonard and Claver

Maybe you didn't understand, because Deng must be traded alone, this second trade would balance out what I consider an inequity in the Batum/Deng trade.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Maybe you didn't understand, because Deng must be traded alone, this second trade would balance out what I consider an inequity in the Batum/Deng trade.

Well it's not like Batum is light years ahead of Deng. The are both very good all around players that complement teams in different ways. The only way I would do something like this is if Deng signed a 3 year deal.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Well it's not like Batum is light years ahead of Deng. The are both very good all around players that complement teams in different ways. The only way I would do something like this is if Deng signed a 3 year deal.

You would have to wait until this summer to trade for him in that case.

 

[jlprk]

Deng is 3 2/3 years older than Batum. But he's better.

He makes $3M more, $14M. Chicago dumped him for nothing because this summer, he'll want even more.

This is our big chance to get Anthony Bennett thrown in. Also, we could exchange projects, Meyers Leonard for Tyler Zeller. We could throw in Lillard for Kyrie Irving to sweeten the pot.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Deng for Nicolas Batum

Deng has carved a reputation as a two-way player with the ability to make an impact on the offensive and defensive end of the floor. This season, Deng is averaging 17.6 points, 3.2 assists and 6.2 rebounds per game while shooting 44 percent from the field.

Letting Deng walk away without compensation is big blow to the new front office team, so the Cavs are expected to explore every trade possibility with roughly two weeks left before the midseason trade deadline.

A very intriguing trade rumors being talked about right now is the swap involving Deng and Portland Trail Blazers' small forward Nicolas Batum.

The Blazers are certainly one of the most surprising teams this season, thanks to All-Stars LaMarcus Aldridge and Damian Lillard. However, adding another star to their roster would certainly give them a solid shot to be a contender in the postseason. On the other hand, the Cavs could get another do-it-all player in Batum in exchange for Deng, who obviously loves to play for a title contender than a rebuilding ball club.

 

[bemac]

Deng is 3 2/3 years older than Batum. But he's better.

Better at what? Statistically, nowhere to be found. Sure, he does take more shots a game than Batum, so has higher point total. Not sure those shots are available here.

Defensively? No. Definitely not in play making. 3pt shooting? Nope.

I can't find anything.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Better at what? Statistically, nowhere to be found. Sure, he does take more shots a game than Batum, so has higher point total. Not sure those shots are available here.

Defensively? No. Definitely not in play making. 3pt shooting? Nope.

I can't find anything.

I think Deng is better at scoring the ball but Batum is a better passer.

 

[bemac]

I think Deng is better at scoring the ball but Batum is a better passer.

And with Aldridge, Matthews, Lillard and soon the be CJ, which is more important to this team? We're already the highest scoring team in the league.

 

[BigGameDamian]

And with Aldridge, Matthews, Lillard and soon the be CJ, which is more important to this team? We're already the highest scoring team in the league.

Then why are we always bitching about how we need more scoring?

 

[Natebishop3]

I swear this site had another rumor a while back that we were going to trade for Asik.

This isn't a legit source.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I swear this site had another rumor a while back that we were going to trade for Asik.

This isn't a legit source.

It could still happen.

 

[bemac]

Then why are we always bitching about how we need more scoring?

Bench scoring, to take minutes off the starters. Deng does nothing to improve this.

 

[Natebishop3]

It could still happen.

I highly doubt it.

 

[jlprk]

Deng plays like a leader and Batum plays like a secretary. But Deng will be 30 in April and wants a great big contract. Unless we come out ahead with a second good Cav, I'd reluctantly say no.

 

[damianlillard]

i would take this trade if cavs trade their 1st round pick. if not then don't make the trade. i think we should go after chandler parson, maybe parson, bevery for wright

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I swear this site had another rumor a while back that we were going to trade for Asik.

This isn't a legit source.

It was on facebook. That's legit enough for me.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Nic's "Ceiling" has been promised for years. At what point does the team cut their expectations. Batum can look like a superstar. He can also look like a bench scrub. Only his mind decides between two. Deng is a proven all-star in the prime of his career. If Cleveland is willing, this should be a no-brainer.

Deng did nothing to help the Cavs? What do you expect one player to do to make a shitpile smell better?

Although I don't like the trade unless we get a first rounder, I agree with Chris that Nic has probably reached his full potential with us. And while he's a nice player overall he has been a letdown to me.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Deng plays like a leader and Batum plays like a secretary. But Deng will be 30 in April and wants a great big contract. Unless we come out ahead with a second good Cav, I'd reluctantly say no.

I really doubt Deng could get a contract much bugger than Nic's. He's a good player but nowhere near elite. It's take one stupid GM or team prez type (hello, Michael Jordan) for him to see a contract like he may want.

 

[BigGameDamian]

It was on facebook. That's legit enough for me.

Did Olshey see it?

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Did Olshey see it?

See it?? He started it!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Did Olshey see it?

Let me instant message him on AOL and find out.

 

[Natebishop3]

I think we could do better for Nic than Luol Deng.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I think we could do better for Nic than Luol Deng.

That's if he can even pass a team physical. The "broken finger" story could be subterfuge for something worse.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I think we could do better for Nic than Luol Deng.

like who?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Selected to the NBA All-Star Game in 2012 and 2013.
Selected to the NBA All-Defensive 2nd Team in 2011-12.

His injuries were an issue in the past, but he seems to be ok as of late. The biggest issue I would have is that he is a free agent in a few months. What are the odds that he re-signs? I am not sure he is worth the gamble. He is a damn good player. Better than Nic but if we lose him for nothing it would set us back. He will be 29 in April. That is not a problem. He has 3 good years left .

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA For those asking, Luol Deng can be traded again by the Cavaliers before the Feb. 20 deadline. He just can't be packaged with another player.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA For those asking, Luol Deng can be traded again by the Cavaliers before the Feb. 20 deadline. He just can't be packaged with another player.

Can he be traded with a pick?

 

[maxiep]

I've thought this year a trade would be difficult to make because of the chemistry we've developed. I think that situation is particularly true with Batum. He may not have played consistently well, but he's our "glue" guy. Trading him would really mess with the way we play.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Better at what? Statistically, nowhere to be found. Sure, he does take more shots a game than Batum, so has higher point total. Not sure those shots are available here.

Defensively? No. Definitely not in play making. 3pt shooting? Nope.

I can't find anything.

Deng's PER is better than Batum's.