Orlando may do this deal

[magnifier661]

And actually they may get better in the process. Maybe good enough to keep Howard in Orlando.

G. Wall, Matthews for Turk and Redick

We may try to get a third team involved and get a pick? Maybe even get Orlando's first rounder?

New starting line-up.

PG: Felton, SG: Batum, SF: Turk, PF: Aldridge, Center: Camby

Key reserves: Reddick, Crawford, Thomas, Rhino

We would be one hell of a perimeter shooting team, plus Turk is a decent closer, IMO.

 

[santeesioux]

Ew, we dodged the Hedo bullet once, why try it again? Neither guy has an expiring deal, right? I'd trade Gerald and possibly Wesley for expiring deals and try to get some draft picks.

 

[craigehlo]

Of course they would do the deal. Hedo might be the worst contract in the NBA.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Mags, in your mind, how does this help us get better? Turk sucks, and has 2 additional years left on his contract after this season.

 

[blue32]

No Turkey ass dude for the blazers. he sucks. and the deal fails because we still are keeping failton.

 

[magnifier661]

Mags, in your mind, how does this help us get better? Turk sucks, and has 2 additional years left on his contract after this season.

I am looking at what our team is missing this season. It's obvious that teams are daring us beat them from the perimeter; while packing it in the paint on Aldridge. Freeing Aldridge could be a Godsend; IMO. But whatever, I guess you all think it's a terrible deal.

 

[santeesioux]

I am looking at what our team is missing this season. It's obvious that teams are daring us beat them from the perimeter; while packing it in the paint on Aldridge. Freeing Aldridge could be a Godsend; IMO. But whatever, I guess you all think it's a terrible deal.

I don' t think making the team slightly better this year to squeak into the playoffs is worth messing up the team even more for the foreseeable future.

 

[B-Roy]

Gee mags, we hate it because it's awful.

 

[magnifier661]

Three Team Deal

Phoenix gets Turk, G. Wall and Felton

Portland gets Reddick and Nash

Orlando gets Matthews, Childress and Frye

Orlando send their pick to Phoenix.

Portland's new starting 5: Nash, Reddick, Batum, Aldridge and Camby

Portland's key reserves: Smith, Crawful, Babbit (yeah lame), Rhino, Thomas.

EDIT: And we send out three contracts of Matthews (4 years 6.1 mil), G. Wallace (2 years 9.5 mil), Felton (expiring 7.6 mil) a total of 24.5 mil; but only receive 18.4 mil of Nash (11.7 mil expiring), Reddick (6.8 for two years). We would have a decent product to watch and have a ton of free space to sign free agents this summer.

 

[TripTango]

I disliked the Turk before he stood us up at the prom, and I hate him with a cold, unreasonable vengeance now. I would never, ever cheer for that guy.

 

[magnifier661]

I disliked the Turk before he stood us up at the prom, and I hate him with a cold, unreasonable vengeance now. I would never, ever cheer for that guy.

Did you see my amendment to the offer? No turk in the deal.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Did you see my amendment to the offer? No turk in the deal.

It's a bandaid that will hurt like hell when you rip it off and see you still haven't addressed any of the long term issues Portland has

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

And actually they may get better in the process. Maybe good enough to keep Howard in Orlando.

G. Wall, Matthews for Turk and Redick

We may try to get a third team involved and get a pick? Maybe even get Orlando's first rounder?

New starting line-up.

PG: Felton, SG: Batum, SF: Turk, PF: Aldridge, Center: Camby

Key reserves: Reddick, Crawford, Thomas, Rhino

We would be one hell of a perimeter shooting team, plus Turk is a decent closer, IMO.

No offense (mostly because your girlfriend is filthy, brah), but that's a damn stupid trade idea.


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[magnifier661]

It's a bandaid that will hurt like hell when you rip it off and see you still haven't addressed any of the long term issues Portland has

How so? They would have much more "cap space" this summer. Even trading those players away for this season "rentals" so fans can watch a good product; then use the space to obtain free-agents this summer. Hell we could trade a team for their pick and a player they want off their books, I.E. Milwaukee "Bogut", etc.

We would have the core of Batum and Aldridge, a ton of cap space and all the creativity in the world to grab players to build around them.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I am looking at what our team is missing this season. It's obvious that teams are daring us beat them from the perimeter; while packing it in the paint on Aldridge. Freeing Aldridge could be a Godsend; IMO. But whatever, I guess you all think it's a terrible deal.

that's misguided thinking IMO. Trades and moves really should be made with an eye to accumulating liquid assets like picks and avoiding long-term salary unless it's accompanied by lottery picks. It's this kind of short-term, band-aid fix, thinking that cripples a team's flexibility.

 

[Mediocre Man]

How so? They would have much more "cap space" this summer. Even trading those players away for this season "rentals" so fans can watch a good product; then use the space to obtain free-agents this summer. Hell we could trade a team for their pick and a player they want off their books, I.E. Milwaukee "Bogut", etc.

We would have the core of Batum and Aldridge, a ton of cap space and all the creativity in the world to grab players to build around them.

What high end FA's want to come to shitty season weathered, clusterfuck for a front office, high taxed Portland?

Trading is all fine and all, but most teams don't want to lose assets for nothing, and Portland would basically have no assets to trade.

This trade definitely makes us better on paper for this season, which sucks because it drops us further down in the draft and might cost us a shot at an impact player long term to team up with LA, and possibly Batum and Williams

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I suspect starters will come here via trades or the draft and key reserves via free agancey.

 

[TripTango]

Did you see my amendment to the offer? No turk in the deal.

I did, and I appreciated the absence of Turk, but it just doesn't seem like a reasonable trade. I don't see much reason for ANY of the teams involved to make that deal.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I have a not-so-secret longing to have Nash play for us, even if only for half of a shortened season. I just feel the need to see some above-average playmaking from our PG spot again... I've almost forgotten what it looks like.

 

[magnifier661]

What high end FA's want to come to shitty season weathered, clusterfuck for a front office, high taxed Portland?

Trading is all fine and all, but most teams don't want to lose assets for nothing, and Portland would basically have no assets to trade.

This trade definitely makes us better on paper for this season, which sucks because it drops us further down in the draft and might cost us a shot at an impact player long term to team up with LA, and possibly Batum and Williams

Like I said, we could offer taking a contract for a higher pick. Basically giving the team "cap relief", by taking an overpaid player for their pick.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Like I said, we could offer taking a contract for a higher pick. Basically giving the team "cap relief", by taking an overpaid player for their pick.

There aren't a ton of those anymore with the amnesty rule out there.

I love the effort though

 

[glazeduck]

Throw in Orton and their completely unprotected 2013 1st Rd. Pick and it's a deal! (Works on ESPN's trade machine...)

I'd prefer to NOT trade Wes if possible... He's not looking like the starting 2 that we thought he could be, but I think he's valuable as a backup/energy guy...

 

[magnifier661]

There aren't a ton of those anymore with the amnesty rule out there.

I love the effort though

There are teams with more than one terrible contract.

 

[Mediocre Man]

There are teams with more than one terrible contract.

Like? Give me a team that will trade an asset and a high first for cap relief

 

[magnifier661]

Like? Give me a team that will trade an asset and a high first for cap relief

Milwaukee have Bogut (3 years 12 mil per), Jackson (2 years 9.2 mil per) and Gooden (4 years 6.2 mil per).

Detroit(Already used their amnesty): have Gordon (11 mil per 3 years), C Vill (7.5 mil for 3 years)

Raptors have Calderon (2 years 9.7 mil), Bargnani ( 9.2 mil for 4 years), Amir Johnson (4 years 5.5 mil), Kleiza (4.6 mil for 3 years)

Washington have Wall (5.5 mil for 3 years), Lewis (2 years 21 mil), Blatche (4 years 6.4 mil)

Golden State have Lee (5 years 11 per), Ellis (3 years 11 per), Biedrins (3 years 9 per)

All of those teams are lottery bound

 

[B-Roy]

Milwaukee have Bogut (3 years 12 mil per), Jackson (2 years 9.2 mil per) and Gooden (4 years 6.2 mil per).

Detroit(Already used their amnesty): have Gordon (11 mil per 3 years), C Vill (7.5 mil for 3 years)

Raptors have Calderon (2 years 9.7 mil), Bargnani ( 9.2 mil for 4 years), Amir Johnson (4 years 5.5 mil), Kleiza (4.6 mil for 3 years)

Washington have Wall (5.5 mil for 3 years), Lewis (2 years 21 mil), Blatche (4 years 6.4 mil)

Golden State have Lee (5 years 11 per), Ellis (3 years 11 per), Biedrins (3 years 9 per)

All of those teams are lottery bound

They aren't trading firsts WITH those players JUST to get rid of them. Holy crap.

AND LOL at you including John FREAKING Wall, 2 years removed from being the number 1 pick. I know you're a homer Mags, but this is just absolutely ridiculous.

Detroit hasn't used their amnesty either. They bought out Hamilton, didn't amnesty him.

 

[Mediocre Man]

They aren't trading firsts WITH those players JUST to get rid of them. Holy crap.

That is my point as well

 

[magnifier661]

That is my point as well

Woah dude you just asked what teams have high draft picks. I just gave you the teams.

 

[RR7]

Woah dude you just asked what teams have high draft picks. I just gave you the teams.

No, he asked which team would give up a high first and an asset for cap relief.

 

[magnifier661]

They aren't trading firsts WITH those players JUST to get rid of them. Holy crap.

AND LOL at you including John FREAKING Wall, 2 years removed from being the number 1 pick. I know you're a homer Mags, but this is just absolutely ridiculous.

Detroit hasn't used their amnesty either. They bought out Hamilton, didn't amnesty him.

Wait a minute! I was asked which teams have high draft picks and insane contracts. I was just answering him. So I get picked on for it? Do you see me saying we make a deal for their pick? I said teams with "late first rounders". There is a huge difference!

 

[magnifier661]

No, he asked which team would give up a high first and an asset for cap relief.

I took it like teams that have terrible contracts and are lottery bound. Was I wrong?