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santeesioux said:
Foo Fighters, Wolfmother, Muse, Garth Brooks, and the Black Keys are the only things I knew what the fuck they are in this topic.
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The sad thing is nobody knows who Clutch is. The world I live in is horrific on this. Kim Kardashian is famous and nobody knows about Clutch.
 
theprunetang said:
That's why I have always booked shows myself and promoted myself. If you are relying on anyone else you aren't doing it right. I have played my fair share of shows in the past with mishmashed lineups and it sucks for everyone involved. I can't pretend to know all of the answers though as my last band got rave reviews but was never able to really attract a crowd aside from a few select shows, like opening for Lebowski fest at the Bagdad, opening for Fugiya and Miyagi at Mississippi, or headlining Doug Fir. We had a lot of blah turnouts at places like Dante's, and defunct places like The Woods or the East End or the Alhambra Theater.

And if you want to get Radio promotion, look at making friends with the people of x-ray fm. They promote Portland bands solely.
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Radio is such a joke. Who owns Volbeat and Sick Puppies? I'm guessing the owners of the famous rock station in Vegas. They tried to play that shit so much the last five years or so I don't even turn on the FM part of my car stereo. Bluetooth or AM sports, that is all.
 

This is my last band, by the way. I look forward to making something better happen when I move back to Portland in a month or so.
 
theprunetang said:
Sorry that creeped you out. I thought I was trying to make some rock and roll. The edits in the video are a bit strange, I suppose.
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I thought of the Purge movies and a bunch of guys getting high in a photo booth before going out killing people. I think that says more about me than anything in the video. Was the name Here Come Dots?



Mmmmmmm, I love Dots.
 
theprunetang said:
Sorry that creeped you out. I thought I was trying to make some rock and roll. The edits in the video are a bit strange, I suppose.
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I just realized that Deep Dark Robot was the last band they played on KOMP radio here in Vegas that I had to find out more about. I thought it was a guy with a weird voice singing, then I found out it was Linda fucking Perry and I loved it even more.

The most recent song I heard and instantly loved was Lazaretto by Jack White. Didn't hear it on the radio, was in the show Bloodline.

I quoted your post because I generally don't like high pitched male voices. That isn't an absolute (zeppelin) but in general a good rule to live by.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I thought of the Purge movies and a bunch of guys getting high in a photo booth before going out killing people. I think that says more about me than anything in the video. Was the name Here Come Dots?



Mmmmmmm, I love Dots.
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The name of the band was Here Come Dots. And two of us worked at Dot's (the bar) at the time.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I just realized that Deep Dark Robot was the last band they played on KOMP radio here in Vegas that I had to find out more about. I thought it was a guy with a weird voice singing, then I found out it was Linda fucking Perry and I loved it even more.

The most recent song I heard and instantly loved was Lazaretto by Jack White. Didn't hear it on the radio, was in the show Bloodline.

I quoted your post because I generally don't like high pitched male voices. That isn't an absolute (zeppelin) but in general a good rule to live by.
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Oh man, I am with you. I am not a fan of high singing guys in general. There are obvious exceptions. During the writing stage of songs though, you just have to be true with whatever is happening. And honestly I sing a bit like Ray Davies. Not going to stop.
 
theprunetang said:
Oh man, I am with you. I am not a fan of high singing guys in general. There are obvious exceptions. During the writing stage of songs though, you just have to be true with whatever is happening. And honestly I sing a bit like Ray Davies. Not going to stop.
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Are you the singer? I couldn't really tell who was who other than I thought you were the striped shirt guy. I haven't paid attention if you've mentioned this stuff before.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Clutch is probably the last band I heard and said "who the fuck is this??????"

Well, Volbeat and Sick Puppies were close. I said "what the fuck is this garbage?"
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You know I don't think Volbeat is that bad. I admit the singer's vocal cadences can be annoying at times. But I dig that they are turning up the amps and kind of are trying to turn back the clock a couple of decades. I thought their cover of the Georgia Satellites' "Battleship Chains" was really good. But no I can't say I own any of their albums.

One band a friend turned me onto was Rival Sons. I was listening to them like crazy. I thought the lead singer Jay Buchanan had one of the best rock voices I've heard in a LONG time. Like Robert Plant meets Steve Marriott. Just that gift. But I guess the LZ comparisons were getting to him. He just slams the format hes playing. 'Oh I don't even listen to that kind of music. I started out a singer'songwriter....' Dude. Ozzy actually stops to tell you he thinks you're the best band around and you'd rather be doing something else?

K. I'll be moving on then.....
 
ripcityboy said:
You know I don't think Volbeat is that bad. I admit the singer's vocal cadences can be annoying at times. But I dig that they are turning up the amps and kind of are trying to turn back the clock a couple of decades. I thought their cover of the Georgia Satellites "Battleship Chains" was really good. But no I can't say I own any of their albums.

One band a friend turned me onto was Rival Sons. I was listening to them like crazy. I thought the lead singer Jay Buchanan had one of the best rock voices I've heard in a LONG time. Like Robert Plant meets Steve Marriott. Just that gift. But I guess the LZ comparisons were getting to him. He just slams the format hes playing. 'Oh I don't even listen to that kind of music. I started out a singer'songwriter....' Dude. Ozzy actually stops to tell you he thinks you're the best band around and you'd rather be doing something else?

K. I'll be moving on then.....
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If Volbeat isn't some record exec kid's band I'll be surprised. The local station played it every 40 minutes when they first appeared. If there was a sliver of talent there they overplayed it until I cringed.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
If Volbeat isn't some record exec kid's band I'll be surprised. The local station played it every 40 minutes when they first appeared. If there was a sliver of talent there they overplayed it until I cringed.
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I don't know much about them. A friend of mine from Europe turned me onto them. One of the former guitarists from Anthrax joined them on tour. That's kind of why they turned my interest. I know the lead singer REALLY wants to make it in this countty. Their last album was a conscious effort to break them in America. But since I don't listen to radio or read the charts so I have no idea if it's working.
 
ripcityboy said:
I don't know much about them. A friend of mine from Europe turned me onto them. One of the former guitarists from Anthrax joined them on tour. That's kind of why they turned my interest. I know the lead singer REALLY wants to make it in this countty. Their last album was a conscious effort to break them in America. But since I don't listen to radio or read the charts so I have no idea if it's working.
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It is anecdotal but most people I say the word Volbeat to roll their eyes.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
It is anecdotal but most people I say the word Volbeat to roll their eyes.
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Haha. Well I stopped knowing what was cool when my classmates' kids had started reaching their teen years. You stop even knowing how to relate to youth culture when you get a generation removed from them. I don't tell them what I think of the phrase "quiet is the new loud" or what I think of Mumford and Sons. I just quietly nod my head and move down the album rack to Alice In Chains. It's all good.
 
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ripcityboy said:
Haha. Well I stopped knowing what was cool my classmates' kids had started reaching their teen years. You stop even knowing how to relate to youth culture when you get a generation removed from them. I don't tell them what I think of the phrase "quiet is the new loud" or what I think of "Mumford and Sons." I just quietly nod my head and move down the album rack to Alice In Chains. It's all good.
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Same, you know more about it than I do. Oh well.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Agree. Malibus in the couv is case in point. Clubs come and go though. booking is easy. selling tickets and getting a turnout is another story.



Same here. I can book a show pretty much anytime I want from the Hawthorne down ( a few clubs are an exception).

Turnout and ticket sales to rock concerts here is not a singular problem. It is a plethora of them.
1. Lack of quality promo. Outside of Thrasher and KingBanana, there really isn't anything else of quality in town. Not with any consistency anyhow. Radio does nothing for local bands really.

2. Sound in the venues. Most venues have sub par sound systems and shit acoustics.

3. Professional atmosphere. Man back in the day in Seattle, Denver and NY, clubs the size of Dante's and above ALWAYs had curtains so bands could tear down and set up behind the scenes and provide a more professional vibe and atmosphere. Most clubs in this town have the bands load and offload off the front of the fricken stage....

4. Too many tribute bands playing the music on the radio. This town has tribute bands for Journey, STP, Kiss, Metallica, Cake, AC/DC, Radiohead, Ozzy, and many more... These bands are mostly quality acts and have decent draws. So the patrons of this town go see them. They know the music and can sing along and its a good show. They know what to expect. They look past the next three weeks of original music because they just went to a show. Time to go out again. Oh.. STP is playing Dante's? (forgets about all other shows again that night and for another 3 weeks.)

5. And probably the largest issue... Too many sub par bands. Patrons cant trust venues to have a quality show night in and night out, regardless of who is on the bill. Most people tend to wait until they come to know a band and then go to see them and don't catch the other acts. Very few shows are put on to be a great show from start to finish. Too many mish mosh of bands tossed together in blender of a bill.

Bands could do themselves a service by investing more time in researching other bands that they would fit with and work with them to put on quality shows, rather than relying on the club or some wannabe promoter to put something together for you. Many musicians are either lazy or ignorant to the business side of music and don't know how or don't promo themselves well at all.
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The first thing I noticed when I moved back here was the lack of preparation a lot of bands had when gigging in public...it takes a good 6 months to get a band tight and ready to entertain...too many noodling, tuning, lazy bands that to my ear, just haven't done the homework and put in the time to rock a house from opening song to end. If there aren't enough venues or good acoustics for bands, there's a hole that needs to be filled. For every club that fails, there's an opportunity for someone else to get it right or try....I don't know why more clubs don't have house equipment that's top notch. Buddy Guy said if you can't make a living gigging...open a club or teach. He was onto something
 
riverman said:
The first thing I noticed when I moved back here was the lack of preparation a lot of bands had when gigging in public...it takes a good 6 months to get a band tight and ready to entertain...too many noodling, tuning, lazy bands that to my ear, just haven't done the homework and put in the time to rock a house from opening song to end. If there aren't enough venues or good acoustics for bands, there's a hole that needs to be filled. For every club that fails, there's an opportunity for someone else to get it right or try....I don't know why more clubs don't have house equipment that's top notch. Buddy Guy said if you can't make a living gigging...open a club or teach. He was onto something
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If my finger ever gains full mobility I'm calling you for a lesson.
 
theprunetang said:
That's why I have always booked shows myself and promoted myself. If you are relying on anyone else you aren't doing it right. I have played my fair share of shows in the past with mishmashed lineups and it sucks for everyone involved. I can't pretend to know all of the answers though as my last band got rave reviews but was never able to really attract a crowd aside from a few select shows, like opening for Lebowski fest at the Bagdad, opening for Fugiya and Miyagi at Mississippi, or headlining Doug Fir. We had a lot of blah turnouts at places like Dante's, and defunct places like The Woods or the East End or the Alhambra Theater.

And if you want to get Radio promotion, look at making friends with the people of x-ray fm. They promote Portland bands solely.
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So true./ Same thing here. OB Productions. I've put most of my own shows on and find the bands to fill out the lineup. What band are you/were you in? Love to give a listen.

bodyman5000 and 1 said:
The sad thing is nobody knows who Clutch is. The world I live in is horrific on this. Kim Kardashian is famous and nobody knows about Clutch.
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OMG MAJOR FAIL ON MY PART. ins in my cd player, how could I not list Clutch!
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
I thought of the Purge movies and a bunch of guys getting high in a photo booth before going out killing people. I think that says more about me than anything in the video. Was the name Here Come Dots?



Mmmmmmm, I love Dots.
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Thats hilarious because, though I didn't think about it until was mentioned, I just watch the fucking purge two nights ago. Absolutely like that when they come to the door and ask for the homeless dude. LOL

riverman said:
The first thing I noticed when I moved back here was the lack of preparation a lot of bands had when gigging in public...it takes a good 6 months to get a band tight and ready to entertain...too many noodling, tuning, lazy bands that to my ear, just haven't done the homework and put in the time to rock a house from opening song to end. If there aren't enough venues or good acoustics for bands, there's a hole that needs to be filled. For every club that fails, there's an opportunity for someone else to get it right or try....I don't know why more clubs don't have house equipment that's top notch. Buddy Guy said if you can't make a living gigging...open a club or teach. He was onto something
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Again, so true. Too many garage bands booking shows, but then I blame the clubs too. If the clubs refuse to book unpolished acts then patrons would trust more in knowing a quality show will be there regardless if they know the band or not, but yes.

I love Heather and the Ash, but they were notorious for this., Countless times I would walk in and go wtf is this? On a Saturday night, they would have open mic rap hip hop stuff.
The clubs are as much to blame for less than professional acts, as the bands seeking stages to perform on are. Your gonna play if they are gonna let you right? Well you are if your young and its your first rodeo and all that...

This town, per capita, has more seriously good musicians than any other place I have lived. Very technically talented, just not alot of creativity to break into the modern music market. Too many musicians stuck on shredding solos and crunchy distortion still and music has moved on from that. Scan craiglist musicians wanted. Half of it is need bass for metal thrash band. Need screamer. Not singer, need a growler.
Musicians in this town by and large are too set in their ways and unwilling/unable to break out of their comfort zone to keep writing music in a modern fashion.

All my opinions, but opinions that garnered enough backing that I formed the LEA, local entertainment alliance, 15 years ago with several promotors, clubs and other bands. IT lasted about 2 years and we put out a monthly news letter that went into the clubs. Everyone was for it, until they realized in order to provide better entertainment, it meant more work... well that was the end of the LEA for most lazy musicians.
We used to hold our meetings at MT tabor Theatre until the musicians union local 99 got involved and offered up their building for us.
 
dviss1 said:
Fool... I'm black and I know that's wrong:

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That was hilarious!!!!

So a guy at my work, Hard core country dude, locked his keys in his big ass truck at work a couple weeks ago. a crowd is forming as other employees give ther coat hangar a shot.

Then I see Anthony, a guy the size of a pro linebacker come walking up. I work with him constantly thru out the day and he is one of the coolest easy going guys ive ever met.

He comes walking up and just then someone is able to pop the door open. He yells out..."See what happens when a brotha walks up? Doors just pop right open!!!"
Omg there was more than one person have a seizure due to the laughing fit that commenced. 2 people were actually brought to one knee on the parking lot pavement
 
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