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I can't believe I did it again. They made me do it again. They sucked me in, they made me believe. I can't believe that an Oregon sports team suckered me in and made me believe... REALLY believe... that national ultimate victory and recognition was possible. That transcendent talent could overcome what we know in our hearts but will never admit except in moments like this: that podunk backwater holes like Oregon could ever, EVER taste the sweet nectar of big-league victory.

Don't talk to me about the Oregon State Beaver baseball team, or the Oregon track and field team. Don't talk to me about women's professional soccer, or junior hockey. Don't even. We are talking about things that common people pay attention to. Common people, not even sports fans, know college football. They know NBA basketball. They even somewhat know MLS soccer. And in every one of those, every one that hick Ory-gone has a infinitesimal stake in.. we are a joke. A laughingstock. A stepping stone for teams, programs, and individuals from parts of the country that matter.

Oh sure, every once in a while, an Oregon team lucks into talent that almost overcomes all that: Clyde Drexler, Dennis Dixon, Rasheed Wallace, Marcus Mariota. But let's be honest with ourselves: 4 and 5 star recruits don't want to come here. I don't care what uniforms are thrown at them, what facilities are built, how "cool" you make it all seem. Teams like the Ducks have to rely on 2nd-tier talent and hope to catch lightning in a bottle to truly compete with the blue bloods. Teams like Alabama, Ohio State.. ones that stockpile 4 and 5 star recruits because they can. Because kids know that, take away the fluff, they are where elite athletes go. They are where elite coaches go. And Oregon isn't. Phil Knight could give 5 billion dollars to the football program, and it wouldn't make a difference. Oh, it'll get them close... it has twice... but teams with REAL tradition, REAL coaching, and REAL athletes and talent, will ultimately win everytime. And you know, those 4 and 5 star recruits will keep going there, because it's a cycle.

Damian Lillard might break that mold. I don't know. Brandon Roy looked like he had a small chance, but injuries robbed that. Injuries robbed Dennis Dixon of that. Injuries robbed Bill Walton of being more than just a footnote asterisk "year after the NBA/ABA merger where talent was diluted" championship winner for an Oregon sports team.

Unlike 2011 (and the 2000 Blazers), though, where at least there was controversy, there was a small sliver of letting think an Oregon sports team might have been good enough, this year, there was no doubt. Oregon just wasn't good enough. A Heisman winner wasn't enough. And shame on all of us for letting us believe that it might be.

It's going to be a long time, if ever, until I let a team from this state suck me into 100% buyin. I'm always going to be fearing going 0-15 in the fourth quarter and blowing a 15 point lead in Game 7. I'm always going to fear going 50-10 and watching your superstar center, the best player in the game, go down to injury and sabotaging a dynasty. I'm always going to fear an opposing superstar wanting victory more and shrugging on national TV as he unveils a three-point range that he never had before and destroys his closest competitor's will. I am always going to fear a QB going down to a knee injury and destroying that team's title hopes.

It's so bad that I had to celebrate a regional team's championship that I only root for out of proximity. There was no "12th Man" parades in Portland. There was no real ownership for an Oregon sports fan. Just a coattail ride for someone who desperately wants to taste any sort of victory. And it was shallow. Hollow. No true emotional connection, just... "that's nice".

God I'm tired of this.
 
This post makes me want to be an asshole. But instead I'll just say that I disprove of this message.
 
Honest, raw...I totally get it.
 
I can't believe I did it again. They made me do it again. They sucked me in, they made me believe. I can't believe that an Oregon sports team suckered me in and made me believe... REALLY believe... that national ultimate victory and recognition was possible. That transcendent talent could overcome what we know in our hearts but will never admit except in moments like this: that podunk backwater holes like Oregon could ever, EVER taste the sweet nectar of big-league victory.

Don't talk to me about the Oregon State Beaver baseball team, or the Oregon track and field team. Don't talk to me about women's professional soccer, or junior hockey. Don't even. We are talking about things that common people pay attention to. Common people, not even sports fans, know college football. They know NBA basketball. They even somewhat know MLS soccer. And in every one of those, every one that hick Ory-gone has a infinitesimal stake in.. we are a joke. A laughingstock. A stepping stone for teams, programs, and individuals from parts of the country that matter.

Oh sure, every once in a while, an Oregon team lucks into talent that almost overcomes all that: Clyde Drexler, Dennis Dixon, Rasheed Wallace, Marcus Mariota. But let's be honest with ourselves: 4 and 5 star recruits don't want to come here. I don't care what uniforms are thrown at them, what facilities are built, how "cool" you make it all seem. Teams like the Ducks have to rely on 2nd-tier talent and hope to catch lightning in a bottle to truly compete with the blue bloods. Teams like Alabama, Ohio State.. ones that stockpile 4 and 5 star recruits because they can. Because kids know that, take away the fluff, they are where elite athletes go. They are where elite coaches go. And Oregon isn't. Phil Knight could give 5 billion dollars to the football program, and it wouldn't make a difference. Oh, it'll get them close... it has twice... but teams with REAL tradition, REAL coaching, and REAL athletes and talent, will ultimately win everytime. And you know, those 4 and 5 star recruits will keep going there, because it's a cycle.

Damian Lillard might break that mold. I don't know. Brandon Roy looked like he had a small chance, but injuries robbed that. Injuries robbed Dennis Dixon of that. Injuries robbed Bill Walton of being more than just a footnote asterisk "year after the NBA/ABA merger where talent was diluted" championship winner for an Oregon sports team.

Unlike 2011 (and the 2000 Blazers), though, where at least there was controversy, there was a small sliver of letting think an Oregon sports team might have been good enough, this year, there was no doubt. Oregon just wasn't good enough. A Heisman winner wasn't enough. And shame on all of us for letting us believe that it might be.

It's going to be a long time, if ever, until I let a team from this state suck me into 100% buyin. I'm always going to be fearing going 0-15 in the fourth quarter and blowing a 15 point lead in Game 7. I'm always going to fear going 50-10 and watching your superstar center, the best player in the game, go down to injury and sabotaging a dynasty. I'm always going to fear an opposing superstar wanting victory more and shrugging on national TV as he unveils a three-point range that he never had before and destroys his closest competitor's will. I am always going to fear a QB going down to a knee injury and destroying that team's title hopes.

It's so bad that I had to celebrate a regional team's championship that I only root for out of proximity. There was no "12th Man" parades in Portland. There was no real ownership for an Oregon sports fan. Just a coattail ride for someone who desperately wants to taste any sort of victory. And it was shallow. Hollow. No true emotional connection, just... "that's nice".

God I'm tired of this.

It's a ride. If it was easy. It wouldn't be fun. Times like these test your fandom. We are seeing what times like these are doing to you. Just keep following, stay faithful, sooner than later it's going to happen. Blazers are on the way, The Ducks are right there. I do agree Oregon to get there, they need to find a way to bolster the ranking of their recruit. Coaches say stars don't matter. They do. Ohio State dominated them and they dominated them with what, their 5 star recruits and class. Where it's most important is in the trenches.

But your teams are close. A lot closer than you might think. Who knows maybe this year. I think it's possible. Just keep following and see what happens.
 
I'm 45 years old. I tasted it when I was 7. And I've been waiting and hoping and rooting for 38 years. Forgive me if I'm starting(?) to believe it'll never happen again.

It will...

I have a feeling about the Blazers
 
I'm 45 years old. I tasted it when I was 7. And I've been waiting and hoping and rooting for 38 years. Forgive me if I'm starting(?) to believe it'll never happen again.
Bro you think you want this team to be the Spurs, or the Ducks to be Bama. When your team is winning things are great. Then you realize it's not the winning that makes it great, it's the shit you go through, the adversity you overcome, that's what makes the eventual victory taste so good. Those national championship losses, the jail blazer years, the playoff losses, those are the chocolate chips. Sure the cookie tastes good without them, but when you add them to the mix it is that much better.
 
Bro you think you want this team to be the Spurs, or the Ducks to be Bama. When your team is winning things are great. Then you realize it's not the winning that makes it great, it's the shit you go through, the adversity you overcome, that's what makes the eventual victory taste so good. Those national championship losses, the jail blazer years, the playoff losses, those are the chocolate chips. Sure the cookie tastes good without them, but when you add them to the mix it is that much better.

How much more pain, how much more pissed away emotional investment does one have to suffer? I mean shit, look at Cubs Fan. Anyone that's a superfan of that team is a masochist, I can't even imagine. Well, yes I can. I just don't want to.
 
I'm 45 years old. I tasted it when I was 7. And I've been waiting and hoping and rooting for 38 years. Forgive me if I'm starting(?) to believe it'll never happen again.

Here is the good news.

Both Paul Allen and Phil Knight are working frantically to make this happen for you. They have resources, will and drive to get it done. I fully believe Allen will have a title before he sells and I think the Ducks bring home a National Title before Knights death.
 
Tl; dr. Nobody gives a shit. Don't like it don't pay attention. I know you've whined and bailed and quit on the Blazers already in here so many times in the past. Great. Good for you. You need to come to a realization about sports, or you need to actually walk away and not just say it every month when things go south. Hey hey! That's sports buddy.
 
Tl; dr. Nobody gives a shit. Don't like it don't pay attention. I know you've whined and bailed and quit on the Blazers already in here so many times in the past. Great. Good for you. You need to come to a realization about sports, or you need to actually walk away and not just say it every month when things go south. Hey hey! That's sports buddy.

tl? Is this to me?
 
Tl; dr. Nobody gives a shit. Don't like it don't pay attention. I know you've whined and bailed and quit on the Blazers already in here so many times in the past. Great. Good for you. You need to come to a realization about sports, or you need to actually walk away and not just say it every month when things go south. Hey hey! That's sports buddy.

Ouch!
 
It hurts, it stings but it's gonna feel amazing when it actually does happen.

I love being a PNW sports teams fan. We get overlooked, ignored and mocked but we have some amazing teams up here with long term staying power, just have to be patient with the ducks and Blazers.
 
I hear you, chris. I didn't move to Oregon til 1980 so I've never experienced any winning. Also, I went to Michigan 1991-95 and we choked in the basketball championship game twice. I've been following the Blazers since 1989. I really believe we have a chance this season. We have all the pieces. Lillard is the difference. We win in 2000 if today's Lillard was on that team instead of Mighty Mouse. Hang in there. We got this.
 
I watched only 10 minutes of the game. You would think that as a native Oregonian, I would be interested, but not really. I watched a cooking show on DVR instead. Can I still be a Blazers fan if I don't care about the ducks?
 
I was too busy at work to run to Sunset Station casino yesterday and put a few hundred bucks on Ohio State. I can't think of a surer bet, but I couldn't get away in time to place it.

I feel bad for you people, not that the Ducks lost but that some of you thought they would win. Isn't that along the lines of that old saying about the definition of insanity?
 
I hear you, chris. I didn't move to Oregon til 1980 so I've never experienced any winning. Also, I went to Michigan 1991-95 and we choked in the basketball championship game twice. I've been following the Blazers since 1989. I really believe we have a chance this season. We have all the pieces. Lillard is the difference. We win in 2000 if today's Lillard was on that team instead of Mighty Mouse. Hang in there. We got this.
Wait... you were at Michigan during the Fab Five era?! Whoa. Did not know this. Were you a massive Juwan Howard fan when he was in POR? Do you love Jalen and CWebb?
 
My baseball team hasn't been in the World Series since 1945.

I'm used to it ;)
 
My baseball team hasn't been in the World Series since 1945.

I'm used to it ;)

Yet I'm sure the Bulls winning 6 titles in 8 years helped sooth that pain
 
They've not been contenders since though.
 
They've not been contenders since though.
Boo-hoo.

You're tellin that to a fan of a team that hasn't been to the finals in 23 years, and hasn't won one in 38.
 
Watch Hoosiers, get sloshed and call me in the morning
 
I can't believe I did it again. They made me do it again. They sucked me in, they made me believe. I can't believe that an Oregon sports team suckered me in and made me believe... REALLY believe... that national ultimate victory and recognition was possible. That transcendent talent could overcome what we know in our hearts but will never admit except in moments like this: that podunk backwater holes like Oregon could ever, EVER taste the sweet nectar of big-league victory.

Don't talk to me about the Oregon State Beaver baseball team, or the Oregon track and field team. Don't talk to me about women's professional soccer, or junior hockey. Don't even. We are talking about things that common people pay attention to. Common people, not even sports fans, know college football. They know NBA basketball. They even somewhat know MLS soccer. And in every one of those, every one that hick Ory-gone has a infinitesimal stake in.. we are a joke. A laughingstock. A stepping stone for teams, programs, and individuals from parts of the country that matter.

Oh sure, every once in a while, an Oregon team lucks into talent that almost overcomes all that: Clyde Drexler, Dennis Dixon, Rasheed Wallace, Marcus Mariota. But let's be honest with ourselves: 4 and 5 star recruits don't want to come here. I don't care what uniforms are thrown at them, what facilities are built, how "cool" you make it all seem. Teams like the Ducks have to rely on 2nd-tier talent and hope to catch lightning in a bottle to truly compete with the blue bloods. Teams like Alabama, Ohio State.. ones that stockpile 4 and 5 star recruits because they can. Because kids know that, take away the fluff, they are where elite athletes go. They are where elite coaches go. And Oregon isn't. Phil Knight could give 5 billion dollars to the football program, and it wouldn't make a difference. Oh, it'll get them close... it has twice... but teams with REAL tradition, REAL coaching, and REAL athletes and talent, will ultimately win everytime. And you know, those 4 and 5 star recruits will keep going there, because it's a cycle.

Damian Lillard might break that mold. I don't know. Brandon Roy looked like he had a small chance, but injuries robbed that. Injuries robbed Dennis Dixon of that. Injuries robbed Bill Walton of being more than just a footnote asterisk "year after the NBA/ABA merger where talent was diluted" championship winner for an Oregon sports team.

Unlike 2011 (and the 2000 Blazers), though, where at least there was controversy, there was a small sliver of letting think an Oregon sports team might have been good enough, this year, there was no doubt. Oregon just wasn't good enough. A Heisman winner wasn't enough. And shame on all of us for letting us believe that it might be.

It's going to be a long time, if ever, until I let a team from this state suck me into 100% buyin. I'm always going to be fearing going 0-15 in the fourth quarter and blowing a 15 point lead in Game 7. I'm always going to fear going 50-10 and watching your superstar center, the best player in the game, go down to injury and sabotaging a dynasty. I'm always going to fear an opposing superstar wanting victory more and shrugging on national TV as he unveils a three-point range that he never had before and destroys his closest competitor's will. I am always going to fear a QB going down to a knee injury and destroying that team's title hopes.

It's so bad that I had to celebrate a regional team's championship that I only root for out of proximity. There was no "12th Man" parades in Portland. There was no real ownership for an Oregon sports fan. Just a coattail ride for someone who desperately wants to taste any sort of victory. And it was shallow. Hollow. No true emotional connection, just... "that's nice".

God I'm tired of this.

This doesn't sound so much like a "therapeutic rant". More like a surrender. When there are 128 NCAA D1 FBS football programs, being one of the final two teams standing is a pretty amazing achievement. The Ducks have done that twice in recent years. IIRC, there's no team that's won more games than them in that time period. If you have to win it all in order to enjoy supporting your teams, you're in for nothing but bitterness and disappointment likely every year of your life.

Sure, it would have been great for the Ducks to win and, yes, it burned so badly for them to lose the way they did that I didn't get much sleep last night. But it was also pretty easy to see that they gave everything they had and that they achieved the success they did despite the loss of a huge number of important players to injury. Marcus Mariota has been the classiest and most amazing athlete I've ever had the pure pleasure of watching wear and Oregon uniform. Things didn't go their way last night. A couple of easy passes that were dropped, a few inches more on a touchdown drive, a couple of plays that could have been made to avoid having to settle for field goals, an inch longer jump by a defender that could have broken up a long pass, and this game could have gone differently. Didn't happen and that's sports.
 
My baseball team hasn't been in the World Series since 1945.

I'm used to it ;)

The Cubs were close the Steve Bartman year (2003, right)?

Baseball and basketball, without a doubt, are the two sports I follow hard. I like NFL and college football, but if I'm busy, I forget about it and don't pay it any attention. With the Giants winning 3 World Series in 5 years, I feel pretty good. Now, if the Blazers could just win a title....
 
what kind of fair weather fan bullshit is this? I cheered for blazers when joel przybilla was closest thing we had to all star. i bleed red baby. do i want to win? of course. but my fandom doesnt change whether we do or not. ill admit i was never a ducks fan until a few years ago, mainly because i didnt enjoy college football, but as i became a fan of the game i adopted the local team. Im not going to go jump on alabama's dick because they win more often. oregon is my home state and ill always love their teams. the only exception is the 9ers cause oregon doesnt have a pro football team.
 

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