OT: Bynum Suspended 5 Games for Barea Hit

[jlprk]

When we played Dallas, many posts fantasized hurting that little foul pest Barea. Now he's the hero of the Blazer board.

I bet Bynum gets these fines after Jackson tells him to take out a certain player.

 

[magnifier661]

When we played Dallas, many posts fantasized hurting that little foul pest Barea. Now he's the hero of the Blazer board.

I bet Bynum gets these fines after Jackson tells him to take out a certain player.

I fantasized about it, but as a "hard foul". That's why I snickered when Artest gave him a close line. That may have broken a nose, but when someone is in mid flight and you elbow them in the air; you can seriously harm the player. Maybe ruin his NBA career. When you are in mid-flight, you have no control after being hit. That's why this play was disgusting. Artest clothesline not so much.

 

[KevinJBonn]

I would have liked to see 10 games, probably because I hate purple and piss. I understand 5 though. If he had actually caused an injury on the level of what he did to Gerry it would warrant a much more severe response in the eyes of the league. We hate anything the Lakers do so we're going to wish for the worst, but reality does kind of fall in the "no harm no foul" category. It's too bad they don't have a penalty for "complete lack of class".

 

[BBert]

I bet Bynum gets these fines after Jackson tells him to take out a certain player.

I think Jackson condones and promotes an environment where hard fouls, minor cheap shots, and chippy play are to be judiciously employed to gain an advantage. Bynum's dangerous cheap shots are perhaps a natural result of that. I don't think he tells the dumbest guy on his team to commit assault against a helpless midget when the team is already down by 30 points late in the fourth quarter, and the game, the season and his coaching career are minutes from ending. Jackson expects his goons to be smart enough to master the techniques necessary to push the other team's buttons. Bynum apparently ain't that guy.

 

[jlprk]

Yeah but maybe Jackson told the dumbest guy on the team of goons to commit assault on a helpless midget when the team is already down by 30 points late in the fourth quarter, BECAUSE the game, the season and his coaching career are minutes from ending.

You said if A then not B, and I said if B then A.

 

[bbwtrench]

haha! barred from the league. There have been 100 other incidents worse than Bynums cheap shot from franchise players and they didnt get barred from the league. Give it a rest. The head hunting is over..... 5 games and a fine.... There you have it.

1984 NBA FINALS. Kevin McHale closeslines Rambis.... Could have hurt him pretty bad. Did they expel him from the league? haha!!!

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1986 NBA FINALS. GUESS WHO? BOSTON CELTICS!

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MARVIN WILLIAMS THROWS DOWN RAJON RONDO

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The SUNS SHAQ, takes em DOWN!

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[jlprk]

Video 1 - Worthy pushed his teammate Rambis onto the floor and into the crowd. Rambis should be mad at his teammate.

Video 3 - Marvin Williams tried to cushion Rondo's fall. He wasn't trying to hurt him.

Video 4 - Shaq says in the tape that it was just a big object hitting a small object, like it was an accident. If so, why is Shaq so angry right after he takes down Stuckey and swinging at people trying to reason with him?

Video 2 - I'll never forget that fight. Bill Fitch had his players psyched up against the Celtics who had just fired him because the Celtic players couldn't stand his Don Nelson-like psych methods. Now with the Rockets, Fitch told Sampson he had no heart like the fighting Olajuwon, so both were in fighting trim for this game. (This is before Olajuwon went Muslim and became so dignified and peaceful that he let Barkley ruin the Rockets with selfishness.) Notice Walton's heroism in this fight. The injured old anti-war radical who had missed years of play took down the punching Sampson to the floor in a purely defensive way, that is, without hitting him, just to stop him from hitting Walton's teammates. Walton knew that as big man on the floor, it was his job to protect his teammates if Sampson hit them, yet he stayed true to his philosophy while stopping the fight by himself.

For many years I saved that game on my VCR and accidentally taped over it. I now have only a minute of the game left, with Walton on the bench with his wild eyes flaring. Notice how exciting this tape is, with the fighting? Before Stern stopped the fun, the NBA was actually exciting. I just skip all non-Blazer games now out of boredom. There used to be real conflict with real personalities who were each in the fight of his life. Sorry if I'm a bore on this board. I just barely watch Stern's snoozefest nowadays and don't have much to say. Too bad you guys didn't know me back then. If Stern retires, then we'll feel it again.

 

[PapaG]

It is an obsession that everyone notices.

S2 is an exceptionally perceptive bunch.

 

[jlprk]

Still on Video 2 - Due to his passive technique, Walton thus was not thrown out and Sampson was. Walton was smart. Heinsohn, who had been Celtic coach a decade earlier, is strongly biased against Sampson throughout the tape. At the end, Heinsohn is complaining that Sichting shouldn't have been kicked out, then is corrected that Sichting is still on the floor, but nothing embarrasses him. This mania is how the Celtics won so many championships.

K.C. Jones, who replaced Fitch as Celtic coach, used the old Auerbach tactic of having little man/mediocre Sichting fight big man/star Sampson, get both thrown out, causing a big net gain to the Celtics. Great to see fans and players without the military hair that soon took over this country. And players wearing shorts, not skirts. And Sampson telling the interviewer live on CBS that it was a "bullshit call." The freedom we had before Stern.

Stern ruined the country and the planet!

 

[BBert]

Yeah but maybe Jackson told the dumbest guy on the team of goons to commit assault on a helpless midget when the team is already down by 30 points late in the fourth quarter, BECAUSE the game, the season and his coaching career are minutes from ending.

You said if A then not B, and I said if B then A.

Hmm...you may be on to something.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Should have been 10 game minimum because he has showed a pattern, NBA very weak on this. And if I was commissioner I would now fine him an additional $100,000 for lying in his latest statement: he said "this is not me", when obviously after doing it at least three times, this is you Andrew Bynum!

 

[MARIS61]

A little nudge-nudge-wink-wink by the league.

An "Atta boy" from David Stern, the Rapers' lapdog.

 

[MARIS61]

The exact opposite of Bynum's cowardly bullying of a smaller player, here's my favorite ex-Blazer bringing down a Goliath nearly twice his size:

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[crandc]

A hard foul during the course of a game is not the same thing as a cheap shot intended to injure when a game is decided. There is a difference between being an enforcer and being a playground bully.

Saying that is not making Barea a hero. Just a fact.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Sheed get 8 games for talking smack to a crooked ref?

I won't go so far as to say the NBA is fixed, but clearly there are favored players and teams. So Artest got only one game; I'd bet if he were still with Indiana it would have been 2 or 3.

 

[Denny Crane]

I seriously doubt PJax would condone or expect this kind of play from one of his players. On the other hand, if the opponents are employing goons, like the bad boy pistons, Jackson would send in a goon of his own from the end of the bench.

This clearly looked like Bynum acting on his own to me.

 

[PapaG]

Hey you could have easily brought up Ariza on Fernandez.

Ariza's cheap shot was while Rudy was at least during the act of shooting the ball, and Ariza wasn't suspended; Miller was. Judging by the outrage by Blazer fans in the thread below, I'd say that I'm at least being consistent, while posters like Minstrel have changed their opinion based on the color of the jersey involved in the cheap shot.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/137298-Laker-Fans-Support-Foul?highlight=ariza+rudy

 

[PapaG]

Nate fined $35K for mentioning 19-2 FTA disparity. Bynum fined $25K for taking his jersey off on the middle of the court because he was frustrated.

(heh, had to include that emoticon)

Bynum also loses 5 games of pay.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

miller is so dirty, when he goes to the beach, cats kick sand on him

 

[magnifier661]

Ariza's cheap shot was while Rudy was at least during the act of shooting the ball, and Ariza wasn't suspended; Miller was. Judging by the outrage by Blazer fans in the thread below, I'd say that I'm at least being consistent, while posters like Minstrel have changed their opinion based on the color of the jersey involved in the cheap shot.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/137298-Laker-Fans-Support-Foul?highlight=ariza+rudy

I am just so grateful that Miller is such a classy player and won't resort to the same act 3 times in a row. Unlike some hack jobs; he learned from his lesson. We should be grateful that we have such a great player in Miller.

 

[PapaG]

I am just so grateful that Miller is such a classy player and won't resort to the same act 3 times in a row. Unlike some hack jobs; he learned from his lesson. We should be grateful that we have such a great player in Miller.

Yeah, as I've posted, that cheap shot was out of character for him. Still, many players never have a cheap shot like that in their career, so a small doubt will always be there as to when 'Dre will snap again.

A wise move by Miller. Is Crazy 'Dre going to show up and blindside you? Keeps the opposition a bit distracted, eh?

 

[magnifier661]

Yeah, as I've posted, that cheap shot was out of character for him. Still, many players never have a cheap shot like that in their career, so a small doubt will always be there as to when 'Dre will snap again.

A wise move by Miller. Is Crazy 'Dre going to show up and blindside you? Keeps the opposition a bit distracted, eh?

Absolutely! I am so glad we have a heady player that is willing to get other teams guessing. He should be our #1 option. He has the best Bball IQ on our roster.

 

[PapaG]

Absolutely! I am so glad we have a heady player that is willing to get other teams guessing. He should be our #1 option. He has the best Bball IQ on our roster.

Yep, and Bynum has 3x the BBIQ, since he's even more consistently crazy!

 

[magnifier661]

Yep, and Bynum has 3x the BBIQ, since he's even more consistently crazy!

You are right!

 

[Minstrel]

Judging by the outrage by Blazer fans in the thread below, I'd say that I'm at least being consistent, while posters like Minstrel have changed their opinion based on the color of the jersey involved in the cheap shot.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/137298-Laker-Fans-Support-Foul?highlight=ariza+rudy

What opinion did I change? I looked through that thread for my contributions, which amount to:

1. Disagreeing with DaRizzle about whether Ariza grabbed Rudy's wrist to yank him down from mid-air
2. Enjoying LittleAlex's claim that Kobe purposely injured his teammate Bynum
3. Making fun of LakersGround posters

I still think Ariza grabbed Rudy's wrist, I still enjoy that claim by LittleAlex and I stand by what I said about LakersGround.

So I think you're wrong that I've changed my opinions.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i would trade miller for bynum in a heartbeat

 

[Minstrel]

i would trade miller for bynum in a heartbeat

Then you know nothing about basketball. Andrew Bynum is probably the worst point guard in basketball. Steep downgrade.

Will Bynum is not so bad, but also not so young. I'd just stick with Miller.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

i meant if i was the lakers