OT Clutchfans.net

[Wheels]

Good God, I am beginning to hate the Rockets more and more (and its more because of their fans and media). Their front page on the site has a picture of Crawford in a Lakers uniform. Now I understand that fans can whine about officiating and such (not that I agree with fans complaining all the time) but come on.. one of the teams sites.. imagine that on the cover of Oregonlive or something like that. Show some professionalism I guess is how I feel.

http://clutchfans.net/

 

[alex42083]

And these are the same fans that got on Blazer fans for whining about officiating?

 

[Wheels]

And these are the same fans that got on Blazer fans for whining about officiating?

exactly... pot meet kettle. Its so annoying.

 

[DaRizzle]

Wow...I thought the refs if anything gave HOU more calls so far....not saying an unfair amount but if you are gonna have a pic like that Im gonna call BS

 

[maxiep]

It has to be a shock for them that they're not getting the calls they were in Portland. There it was Yao fouling our bigs and Przy and GO getting the fouls called on them. Bottom line in the NBA is that Kobe > Yao.

BTW, when I see that Fisher foul, I see him throwing his forearm into Scola's chest and then then Luis flopping.

 

[Wheels]

Wow...I thought the refs if anything gave HOU more calls so far....not saying an unfair amount but if you are gonna have a pic like that Im gonna call BS

While I didnt see the numbers or anything like that showing FT attempts.. watching the game I in NO WAY felt that they had an effect on the outcome of the game. I just cant stand fans who really think their teams would be 82-0 if it werent for the Refs.. and I feel that way about Blazer fans who are the same way.

 

[Wheels]

It has to be a shock for them that they're not getting the calls they were in Portland. There it was Yao fouling our bigs and Przy and GO getting the fouls called on them. Bottom line in the NBA is that Kobe > Yao.BTW, when I see that Fisher foul, I see him throwing his forearm into Scola's chest and then then Luis flopping.

I dont buy into that sorry.. its not a matter of Kobe > Yao from a marketing standpoint. The Lakers are just a better team than the Rockets.

 

[maxiep]

On the flip side, does anyone not believe that we couldn't have sent in Bayless and he would have sent the same elbow into Scola?

 

[Mediocre Man]

I think it's funny actually.

 

[maxiep]

I dont buy into that sorry.. its not a matter of Kobe > Yao from a marketing standpoint. The Lakers are just a better team than the Rockets.

You don't believe there are superstar calls? Okay, we'll agree to disagree. IMO, there's a heirarchy in the NBA, and K*be and Wade sit on the top of the heap. LeBron is there with him, but he hasn't learned to work the margins like those two. Yao is up there, but he's a level below K*be.

 

[Minstrel]

but come on.. one of the teams sites.. imagine that on the cover of Oregonlive or something like that. Show some professionalism I guess is how I feel.

Clutchfans is run by the Rockets organization? I thought it was an independent site run by fans.

Also, I just went and looked at it. It was from a Photoshop contest (labeled as such in the caption). Photoshop contests are pretty common and just for fun. It hardly strikes me as extreme and "official" whining.

 

[Wheels]

You don't believe there are superstar calls? Okay, we'll agree to disagree. IMO, there's a heirarchy in the NBA, and K*be and Wade sit on the top of the heap. LeBron is there with him, but he hasn't learned to work the margins like those two. Yao is up there, but he's a level below K*be.

I believe there are superstar calls.. but those calls are to keep the star in the game. And not on the bench in foul trouble. Roy gets some of those now too. What I dont think is that those calls are to keep one team in the playoffs and not the other. I view the superstar calls more as someone who gets more leniancy. If a parent has 2 children and 1 has a past of being a very good child and well behaved, and then messes up, naturally he will get more leniancy from his parents than a child who has had a past of getting into trouble. Thats just my opinion though.

 

[Wheels]

I think it's funny actually.

the picture is funny yeah.. I just view it as hypocritical with Rocket fans.

 

[maxiep]

I believe there are superstar calls.. but those calls are to keep the star in the game. And not on the bench in foul trouble. Roy gets some of those now too. What I dont think is that those calls are to keep one team in the playoffs and not the other. I view the superstar calls more as someone who gets more leniancy. If a parent has 2 children and 1 has a past of being a very good child and well behaved, and then messes up, naturally he will get more leniancy from his parents than a child who has had a past of getting into trouble. Thats just my opinion though.

And what do you think the call on Artest when Kobe elbowed him in the neck was? It was the same call as when Yao pinned Greg's arm, turned and flailed as if he was struck by GO. You'll also see the "call the foul on the player closest to the superstar who actually committed the foul" foul call. All that's happening is that instead of covering Roy, Artest and Battier are covering Kobe.

 

[Wheels]

And what do you think the call on Artest when Kobe elbowed him in the neck was? It was the same call as when Yao pinned Greg's arm, turned and flailed as if he was struck by GO. You'll also see the "call the foul on the player closest to the superstar who actually committed the foul" foul call. All that's happening is that instead of covering Roy, Artest and Battier are covering Kobe.

I was mainly referring to the comment of "what it comes down to in the nba Kobe>Yao.. I understood it to mean like Thats why the Lakers have been getting the calls etc. and That they would win because of that. But it sounds like I could have misunderstood the intention of your post. If so I apologize.

 

[EPIC FAIL GILDERHUS]

Jeez you think that Rockettes fans would just be content to have stolen home court already-did they really expect to win both games in LA? I mean, c'mon, the team that wins game one wins the series roughly 80% of the time. I know if the Blazers were in that position- had split both games in LA and were coming home, you wouldn't hear any whining from me. What a bunch of little girls...

 

[LittleAlex]

On the flip side, does anyone not believe that we couldn't have sent in Bayless and he would have sent the same elbow into Scola?

I don't think the team would have allowed him to do it. On his own? I think he would have punched Wafer's dick off.

 

[Wheels]

Clutchfans is run by the Rockets organization? I thought it was an independent site run by fans.

Also, I just went and looked at it. It was from a Photoshop contest (labeled as such in the caption). Photoshop contests are pretty common and just for fun. It hardly strikes me as extreme and "official" whining.

I dont view it as official team stuff.. thats why I brought the example up of oregonlive. And a certain level of professionalism.

 

[Minstrel]

I dont view it as official team stuff.. thats why I brought the example up of oregonlive. And a certain level of professionalism.

Clutchfans is just a fan-run site, I think. It's not professional, it's just for fun.

Isn't oregonlive associated with the Oregonian? That's what I recall from when I used it back in 2000. If it isn't, I don't expect any level of professionalism from o-live, either.

 

[barfo]

I think it's funny actually.

Me too. It's a very amusing photoshop job.

barfo

 

[barfo]

Clutchfans is just a fan-run site, I think. It's not professional, it's just for fun.

Isn't oregonlive associated with the Oregonian? That's what I recall from when I used it back in 2000. If it isn't, I don't expect any level of professionalism from o-live, either.

oregonlive is owned by the same parent company as the oregonian. I did some research on that a few years back.

barfo

 

[Wheels]

Clutchfans is just a fan-run site, I think. It's not professional, it's just for fun.

Isn't oregonlive associated with the Oregonian? That's what I recall from when I used it back in 2000. If it isn't, I don't expect any level of professionalism from o-live, either.

fair enough.. then the fans hypocritical bitching is what is annoying me now.. not the lack of professionalism lol.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

fair enough.. then the fans hypocritical bitching is what is annoying me now.. not the lack of professionalism lol.

You guys are being hypocritical, the Rockets fans are being the logical ones:

Yao never got into foul trouble against Portland.
Therefore, Yao commits few or no fouls.
Yao got into foul trouble in LA.
Therefore, the foul calls must be an artifact of bias officiating.

Duh, it's obvious.

 

[Sedatedfork]

You guys are being hypocritical, the Rockets fans are being the logical ones:

Yao never got into foul trouble against Portland.
Therefore, Yao commits few or no fouls.
Yao got into foul trouble in LA.
Therefore, the foul calls must be an artifact of bias officiating.

Duh, it's obvious.

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[TradeNurkicNow]

It's pretty common to see fans of the teams that play the Lakers complain about the officiating... and also to have Lakers fans complain about the officiating no matter who they play.

 

[Minstrel]

Every fanbase (not every individual fan) tends to feel that the refereeing was bad to the detriment of their team. It's simply that fans count all the borderline calls against their team as "bad calls" (and remember them) and are much more likely to see borderline calls that go the other way as deserved or "just letting the teams play."

Fanbases then, angry that their team got the short end of the stick, get even more upset when the opposing fanbase claims that their team got the short end of the stick. Thus the two fanbases chastise each other for whining.

It's not really hypocrisy, it's lack of self-awareness. "Yes, I hate it when fans of the other team blame officials, but my team really DID get shafted!!"

 

[Wheels]

You guys are being hypocritical, the Rockets fans are being the logical ones:

Yao never got into foul trouble against Portland.
Therefore, Yao commits few or no fouls.
Yao got into foul trouble in LA.
Therefore, the foul calls must be an artifact of bias officiating.

Duh, it's obvious.

Who's on first?

 

[alex42083]

Every fanbase (not every individual fan) tends to feel that the refereeing was bad to the detriment of their team. It's simply that fans count all the borderline calls against their team as "bad calls" (and remember them) and are much more likely to see borderline calls that go the other way as deserved or "just letting the teams play."

Fanbases then, angry that their team got the short end of the stick, get even more upset when the opposing fanbase claims that their team got the short end of the stick. Thus the two fanbases chastise each other for whining.

It's not really hypocrisy, it's lack of self-awareness. "Yes, I hate it when fans of the other team blame officials, but my team really DID get shafted!!"

Nah, it's just as simple as when in doubt, Portland always gets screwed! This logic stuff doesn't work when it comes to refs.

 

[Minstrel]

Nah, it's just as simple as when in doubt, Portland always gets screwed!

Well, sure. I'm a Portland fan, so I'm on board for that!

 

[illmatic99]

That's hilarious!