OT: Congrats to ZBO

[PapaG]

steve blake, travis outlaw?

Rudy Fernandez, Sergio Rodriguez, Sebastian Telfair, Martell Webster, Brandon Roy.

Outside if Zach Randolph and Jarrett Jack, who are the Blazer players who flourished after Nate without moving multiple teams?

 

[PapaG]

And he was a fantastic number one option. Not a third or fourth wheel. Look at the numbers. They will stun you and reveal the truth. He had a few bad years because he was playing with Telfair and Khryapa. AND was covering from MICROFRACTURE KNEE SURGERY. But when we added Roy and Aldridge and he had had time to recover, he played the best ball of his career. And we threw him away for nothing.

Big.

Fucking.

Mistake.

Zach averaged 15.1 ppg this year. If Memphis wins the title, it will be because of the team, not him. It would be the Piston model, but I don't see them getting by SAS, anyhow.

 

[maxiep]

Sadly, that's not true. The Zach Randolph (06/07) that we traded had just had his career best 22.8 PER which he has NOT topped in Memphis. He had averaged a 24 ppg and 10 rpg. We were a team on the rise. With Roy and others about to improve, we were bound to be a playoff team in 2007 and win when we got there. People forget how great Zach was that year (cuz he finally had good teammates to play with again). Zach's last season with Portland was his BEST as a pro:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/randoza01/gamelog/2007/

Truth.

I was talking about his style of play, but you just keep posting links to stats all you wish.

 

[KingSpeed]

Rudy Fernandez, Sergio Rodriguez, Sebastian Telfair, Martell Webster, Brandon Roy.

Outside if Zach Randolph and Jarrett Jack, who are the Blazer players who flourished after Nate without moving multiple teams?

I'm confused. Jack did move to multiple teams. So did Bayless and he is doing well if that's what you're asking. Webster emerging in Washington. They were really playing great with him at the end of the season. Andre Miller too.

 

[PapaG]

I'm confused. Jack did move to multiple teams. So did Bayless and he is doing well if that's what you're asking. Webster emerging in Washington. They were really playing great with him at the end of the season. Andre Miller too.

I'm confused, too, Is the Zach Randolph who averages 15.1 ppg going to lead the Blazers to the playoffs and WCF this year? Or does having the DPOY in Marc Gasol help that equation?

 

[jlprk]

Thank the brains at our local think tank, the Oregonian, and their planted mole, Pritchard.

 

[KingSpeed]

I was talking about his style of play, but you just keep posting links to stats all you wish.

He was a fantastic rebounder. Fantastic at getting to the line and hitting when he got there. Had a much better post game then. And he only shot 0.7 threes per game as opposed to 0.3 this season. Not a big difference. To me, falling in love with the three is 3 or 4 a game. Go back and watch the games in 2006-07. He had a GREAT "style of play.". More complete efficient post game then. He's old now and has lost a step from what he had then.

In your kind, you keep replaying a couple crappy games he played on a bum knee with Darius Miles and Sebastian Telfair at his side and THAT is what you think of when you think of his "style of play."

 

[maxiep]

He was a fantastic rebounder. Fantastic at getting to the line and hitting when he got there. Had a much better post game then. And he only shot 0.7 threes per game as opposed to 0.3 this season. Not a big difference. To me, falling in love with the three is 3 or 4 a game. Go back and watch the games in 2006-07. He had a GREAT "style of play.". More complete efficient post game then. He's old now and has lost a step from what he had then.

I was talking about the garbageman-type player he was in that Dallas series and what he became by the time we traded him.

 

[KingSpeed]

I was talking about the garbageman-type player he was in that Dallas series and what he became by the time we traded him.

When we traded him, he was a BEAST (check 06-07 player stats!). 24/10. 22.8 PER, best of his CAREER including his time in Memphis.

You are thinking of injured Randolph playing street all with Miles and Telfair. But he turned it around BEFORE we traded him.

 

[RoyToy]

Look at the numbers. Career best 22.8 PER in 06-07. 24/10. We were too anxious to move Aldridge to starting PF and thought with Oden , we could afford to do that so we rushed to trade him to Isiah Thomas whose team was awful. Then he got tossed to another awful team. Once a good team picked him up, he was back on track, but look at the numbers. He was GREAT for us in 06-07 and we had improved our record by 11 wins. And he was fully recovered from MF surgery and playing at the top of his game. The stories people tell about Zach aren't true. I remember that it was gospel in here that no team that started Randolph would ever reach the playoffs let alone win there. Now that he has, people are changing their tune to "he reformed!". He has ALWAYS been a winner when playing with good teams. the BEST year of his career (06-07) was with Portland

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/randoza01.html

PapaG's favorite:

23 PER with a 33 USG in 06-07

Meh

Zach is doing good playing 3rd fiddle for Memphis. I'm happy for him and enjoy watching the Grizzlies play.

 

[KingSpeed]

There are several stages of Randolph:

Early years- bench, then going off in 2003 playoffs as yes, garbage man.

MF surgery and Telfair/Miles- couldn't carry awful team, struggling to play on surgerically repaired knee.

THEN there is

2006-07- on top of his game again. Leads us to 11 more wins than previous season. Scores in the clutch in post and on the line. Averages 24/10, 22.8 PER

Knicks and Clippers- horrible teams, no direction, no role

Grizzlies- good teammates, good organization, returns almost to 06-07 form. Makes All Star team (would've done that in 2008 with us!)

 

[NOVoodoo]

Does anyone know if they've named the 2013 Community Assist Award winner? Fan voting closed yesterday, but I haven't heard a winner announced yet.

Z-Bo was nominated along with Chandler, Faried, Hansbrough, D. Lee, Lillard, Love, Paul, Wade, and D. Williams.

Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers

The face of the Trail Blazers' anti-bullying campaign, "Respect, Pass It On," Lillard is passionate about promoting a message of respect for all. He also supports breast cancer awareness and enjoys having a genuine connection with the Portland community, particularly within the local schools where he's spent time with teachers and students.

Charity of choice: Portland Parks & Recreation

Zach Randolph, Memphis Grizzlies

Randolph is a longtime supporter of Make-A-Wish America, Boys & Girls Clubs of America and the Humane Society of Memphis. A standout in the community during holiday initiatives, he also hosted a number of events and shopping sprees for the local community and continued to pay utility bills for residents in need.

Charity of choice: Boys & Girls Clubs of Greater Memphis

http://www.nba.com/2013/news/04/29/kia-comunity-assist-fan-voting-official-release/index.html

 

[KingSpeed]

Zach averaged 15.1 ppg this year. If Memphis wins the title, it will be because of the team, not him. It would be the Piston model, but I don't see them getting by SAS, anyhow.

15.4 but who's counting?

 

[KingSpeed]

Does anyone know if they've named the 2013 Community Assist Award winner? Fan voting closed yesterday, but I haven't heard a winner announced yet.

Z-Bo was nominated along with Chandler, Faried, Hansbrough, D. Lee, Lillard, Love, Paul, Wade, and D. Williams.



http://www.nba.com/2013/news/04/29/kia-comunity-assist-fan-voting-official-release/index.html

Awesome. No announcement yet. They both sound like cool guys. I met Randolpn in 2007. By far, the nicest NBA player I ever met. Smiling ear to ear, genuinely interested in talking to me, seemed like a really cool guy. Lillard is a stud for the anti-bullying campaign.

 

[jlprk]

The history of Zach.

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2013/05/17/having-paid-his-dues-z-bo-doing-work/

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Oh come on now. Zach's Hoop Family is still directly involved in a murder in Portland, and got away with a gang rape downtown. You're not that out of the loop. Ask my man Curtis about it, and how he can't get another club managing job because of those shitheads....

I have no idea who Curtis is. Right or wrong, without the Oregonian Zach probably stays here. I do not think he has changed that much, just as Rasheed was the same person in Portland as he was in Detroit, Boston, and New York.

 

[MickZagger]

I have no idea who Curtis is. Right or wrong, without the Oregonian Zach probably stays here. I do not think he has changed that much, just as Rasheed was the same person in Portland as he was in Detroit, Boston, and New York.

and Atlanta.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Do you remember Z-Bo's MTV Cribs?

His freaking pool table was customized with the Gangster Disciples logo. Street gang shit and fighting pitblls is what sank Z-Bo in Portland.

Still, we should have gotten more than Channing Frye. Z-Bo has a post game that is ultra rare these days.

 

[jlprk]

The Spurs held him to shooting 1-8 in the first game. I wondered how rare that is.

http://bkref.com/tiny/hRxyH