OT: Could Anthony Davis win MVP, MIP, and DPOY this season?

[magnifier661]

Kobe won titles and then didn't make playoffs in 2005. Was he suddenly worse? And when he won titles, was he suddenly better again?

Yes he was

 

[magnifier661]

Not necessarily. It's s team game.

Hahaha bro, you straddle the fence. Do you want me to pull quotes when you compared players for greatness? Talked about how one lead his team to the second round, while the other always was in the lotto?

 

[magnifier661]

18 points, 7-17 shooting, 9 rebounds, 2 blocks and a -7

 

[KingSpeed]

Tonight in a win in Utah:

43 points (16/23 shooting), 14 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 block.

 

[magnifier661]

Tonight in a win in Utah:

43 points (16/23 shooting), 14 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 block.

1 block?! Trade him!

 

[KingSpeed]

1 block?! Trade him!

15 shots altered

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Utah's front line isn't exactly dominant defensively, but Davis is so awesome to watch.

 

[Pinwheel1]

And currently out of the playoffs. Dude is great, but the team has to be a contender.

 

[H.C.]

When was the last time a big man won MVP?
Dirk in 06-07 season.

Have to agree with mags here. Looking over the past MVP's unless AD leads his team to a top spot in the playoffs it isn't happening.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/mvp.html

MVP's lead their team to a high seed period.


But

First he needs to actually play 82 games.

 

[KingSpeed]

Usually, yes, the MVP's team is a top team but in this case, his PER is so much higher than everyone else's. How many people with that kind of PER have lost MVP?


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[Strenuus]

Usually, yes, the MVP's team is a top team but in this case, his PER is so much higher than everyone else's. How many people with that kind of PER have lost MVP?


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well, they dont give out the award till the end of the year, so per's are much lower....

 

[H.C.]

Usually, yes, the MVP's team is a top team but in this case, his PER is so much higher than everyone else's. How many people with that kind of PER have lost MVP?


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No, not usually. You keep bringing up this PER stat like it's the end all end all of who is the MVP of the league.
Bottom line is MVP comes from a team that led their respective team to an amazing record in wins/losses.
NO is 7-5.
4-1 at home and 3-4 on the road. Not amazing 12 games in.
If they season ended today they'd miss the playoffs. = he wouldn't get the MVP.

Stats don't mean everything. Not a video game.

 

[KingSpeed]

People used to vote using the Larry Bird Formula, also known as EFF. It's points, steals, rebounds, blocks, assists, minus missed shots and turnovers. I can't find that ranked anymore on the net though. It's all PER nowadays. I would guess AD leads the league in the Larry Bird formula right now.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

The fanboy in me says Lillard should be in the MIP talk if Davis is.

 

[magnifier661]

Yes he could.

Everyone knows LeBron is the best player but he is going to focus on his teammates putting up stats and saving himself for the playoffs. Thats why Durant won MVP last year. The East is so weak he'll have tons of games he can coast especially toward the latter half of the season when all the tanking teams have given up.

Davis has a PER of 36! When Wilt averaged 50 points and 25 rebounds per game he had a PER of 31. If Davis comes close to that PER he'll be the favorite for all three awards.

His per is dropping (33.69)... I expect him to be in the mid 20's by the all-star break

 

[riverman]

My answer is no, he's not winning MVP..not sure if he'll win DPY but he'll be an allstar and all nba. What keeps him from winning these awards is the failure of his team to get far in the playoffs or even make them.

 

[Boob-No-More]

His per is dropping (33.69)... I expect him to be in the mid 20's by the all-star break

It won't drop that low. He shoots a high FG% and rebounds well. That alone is enough to keep his PER in the mid-20s. Throw in the blocked shots and steals and he'll be high 20s, possibly even low 30s at season's end.

That's great, but it won't win him MVP if his team has a loosing record and misses the playoffs. When was the last time someone on a losing, non-playoff team won MVP? Ever?

BNM

 

[ponderguy]

if the pelicans make the playoffs he has a shot to win mvp. The west is stacked and the difference between 1 and even 9 or 10 is less than it has been ever before. DPOY is well withing his reach but MIP likely will go to a bigger surprise even if he has improved greatly. they never seem to consider stars for the MIP award which is a good thing imo, let the little guy shine a little

 

[Boob-No-More]

When was the last time someone on a losing, non-playoff team won MVP? Ever?

Answering my own question: You have to go all the way back to the first year the MVP was awarded to find a MVP winner that played on a team with a losing record. Bob Petit was MVP while playing for the 33-39 St. Louis Hawks, but the Hawks did make the playoffs and even advanced to the second round. So, if Davis wins the MVP and his team misses the playoffs, it will be unprecedented. Winning matters when it comes to MVP voting - it always has (well, almost always).

BNM

 

[ponderguy]

Answering my own question: You have to go all the way back to the first year the MVP was awarded to find a MVP winner that played on a team with a losing record. Bob Petit was MVP while playing for the 33-39 St. Louis Hawks, but the Hawks did make the playoffs and even advanced to the second round. So, if Davis wins the MVP and his team misses the playoffs, it will be unprecedented. Winning matters when it comes to MVP voting - it always has (well, almost always).

BNM

Theoretically if the team wins 50 games and misses the playoffs should Davis be penalized for the NBAs poor playoff structure?