OT: Detroit Radio 97.1 reports Boozer for Rip trade in the works?

[number 10]

I don't agree with you on Hamilton rapidly declining. With the AI situation, the reality was he was put in a position where he was set up to fail. Bad coach. Bad GM decision. Bad team chemistry, as Chauncey Billups was key to getting Rip the ball where he was comfortable operating, with good timing on the passes, which is critical for off the ball, using screens to get open for shots type of play. So that being said, I think Hamilton has to fit your system, and you have to have guys which can get him the ball in the right spots. Declining fast though, is hardly warranted.

you're right, looking at the stats he hasn't declined that much, even with the AI circus, and I thought he was a few years older than he really is.

 

[maxiep]

Boozer is expiring. It helps Detroit a lot next season.

This can only help Portland. I'm not sure how, but people keep saying Portland will win no matter what.

That trade puts Utah out of serious contention. That's how it helps Portland.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Teyshaun, Gordon, Villanueva, Stuckey, Daye, Maxiell adds up to 37.5 roughly.

How much do you have for Gordon and Charlie?

Prince - 11.1
Maxiel - 5.0
Stuckey 2.7
Daye - 1.6
Villanueva - 6.0
Gordon 8.5


I am higher than I was at first, but I still come in at a little over 34 million.


Charlie V signed for 35 million, so that starts at 6 million
Gordon signed for 55 million, so that starts around 8.5 million

 

[Mediocre Man]

That trade puts Utah out of serious contention. That's how it helps Portland.

How does a line up of

Williams, Hamilton, AK47, Millsap and Okur

take them out of serious contention?

It's as good or better than our current line up

 

[maxiep]

How does a line up of

Williams, Hamilton, AK47, Millsap and Okur

take them out of serious contention?

It's as good or better than our current line up

Williams > any of our PGs

Hamilton < Roy

AK47 = Batum

Millsap < LMA

Okur = GO/Przy

UTA Bench < POR Bench

We wipe the floor with that Jazz team. They're overpaid, underperforming and locked up in cap hell.

 

[B-Roy]

AK47 = Batum

What? I know AK is overpaid, but he's still a better player than Batum.

 

[Further]

This just doesn't pass the smell test. There is one reason why Utah is looking to trade Boozer, and thats to save enough money to retain Milsap. Rip has a worse contract, just as big, but longer. No way does this happen no matter if it makes sense or not for Detroit.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Williams > any of our PGs

Hamilton < Roy

AK47 = Batum

Millsap < LMA

Okur = GO/Przy

UTA Bench < POR Bench

We wipe the floor with that Jazz team. They're overpaid, underperforming and locked up in cap hell.

I think AK is better than any of our SF's

Harpring, Korver, Miles, Brewer are a decent bench.


The cap hell part is right, but I think they would be a lot better than you are giving them credit for.


You also forgot Sloan > Mr. Sonic

 

[Mediocre Man]

This just doesn't pass the smell test. There is one reason why Utah is looking to trade Boozer, and thats to save enough money to retain Milsap. Rip has a worse contract, just as big, but longer. No way does this happen no matter if it makes sense or not for Detroit.

You are right.

My thinking was maybe Utah can't find anyone to take Boozer for cap relief and have decided that they will not let Portland get Millsap, so why not get some talent back?

 

[maxiep]

What? I know AK is overpaid, but he's still a better player than Batum.

Have you seen Kirilenko play? His game has seriously dropped off. I meant to put Kirilenko = Batum/Outlaw/Webster, but I'll stand by my initial post.

 

[B-Roy]

Have you seen Kirilenko play? His game has seriously dropped off. I meant to put Kirilenko = Batum/Outlaw/Webster, but I'll stand by my initial post.

For the price, Kirilenko may be equal to our SF's, but even as it is now, he's certainly smarter than Outlaw and more productive than Batum and Webster...

 

[maxiep]

For the price, Kirilenko may be equal to our SF's, but even as it is now, he's certainly smarter than Outlaw and more productive than Batum and Webster...

Umm...who ISN'T smarter than Outlaw?

 

[B-Roy]

Umm...who ISN'T smarter than Outlaw?

Point taken, but he's still a better all around producer.

 

[maxiep]

Point taken, but he's still a better all around producer.

Kirilenko is a shell of the player he once was. He's no longer a lockdown defender and still can't shoot a J.

 

[STOMP]

For the price, Kirilenko may be equal to our SF's...

you've got to use some funny math to make their prices equal

AK in 2009-10 = 16.4M
NB+TO+MW (1.1+3.6+4.4) in 2009-10 = 9.1M

I think Kirilenko has slowed to the point he's probably better suited to guarding 4's then 3's. I wouldn't be surprised to see them bringing him off the bench next season.

STOMP

 

[SodaPopinski]

My only question about this trade, is ... can we somehow get involved and pry Prince from the Palace (at Auburn Hills)?

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Just two weeks ago, Boozer opted to remain with the Jazz for the final year of his contract. But the two-time All-Star told a Chicago radio station Tuesday he expects the Jazz to trade him.

“The Jazz told me they want to go in a different direction and I respect their decision,” Boozer said Tuesday during an interview with WMVP. “We mutually agreed to work out a trade that was beneficial for them and beneficial for my family and me. So with that being said I’m gonna be traded relatively soon or in good time


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...qO8vLYF?slug=ap-jazz-boozer&prov=ap&type=lgns

 

[Tince]

What? I know AK is overpaid, but he's still a better player than Batum.

I love Batum, but I'm shocked at how highly valued he is around this board.

 

[hasoos]

I love Batum, but I'm shocked at how highly valued he is around this board.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Webster is out, if Cunningham challenges him for the starting SF spot. He is more polished offensivly, has a better NBA body, and yes, he knows how to defend. That's what happens when you go to school for a few years at Villanova.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Webster is out, if Cunningham challenges him for the starting SF spot. He is more polished offensivly, has a better NBA body, and yes, he knows how to defend. That's what happens when you go to school for a few years at Villanova.

By "out" do you mean unable to physically perform, or "out" as in bought out or traded for a sack of garbage?

I do agree that it's possible Cunningham could challenge for some spot minutes at the three spot, but I don't think there's any way he seriously competes for the starting job, not with Nicolas in front of him ... anything can happen I guess

 

[Crimson the Cat]

I think of a lot of Cunningham, but he's not quick enough to guard NBA starting threes.