OT: How Bout That Bayless guy?

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10/12, 1/2 from 3 for 31 pts, with 5 rbs, 7 asts in 34 minutes. Go Jerryd.

Go Blazers
 
How come you didn't say anything about him when he was 1-9 the game before, or 2-10 two games before that?
 
Whaaaat!? Bayless had a good game in his NBA career? Get out of here. That said, we could kind of use him right now, however the Hornets may cool off if their ownership situation starts grinding on them.
 
How come you didn't say anything about him when he was 1-9 the game before, or 2-10 two games before that?

I'll go with, "I didn't think that was very noteworthy."? I've never been a huge Bayless guy, but I like to see him doing well. Except against the Blazers.

Go Blazers
 
That's the problem with Bayless. He hurts you for 3 or 4 games in a row, then has a really nice game and suddenly he's an all-star in people's minds. Then another crappy 3 or 4 games before a good one... it's all fool's gold.
 
We got rid of Damon to make room for Telfair, we got rid of Telfair to make room for Jack, we got rid of Jack to make room for Blake, we got rid of Sergio to make room for Bayless, we got rid of Bayless to make room for Matthews.

When we got rid of Bayless, does that mean we should have brought back Sergio?

Sergio had the 5th, 12th, and 31st greatest-ever Blazer seasons for assists per minute. You won't find Bayless on the list.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=a9XMt
 
We got rid of Damon to make room for Telfair, we got rid of Telfair to make room for Jack, we got rid of Jack to make room for Blake, we got rid of Sergio to make room for Bayless, we got rid of Bayless to make room for Matthews.

When we got rid of Bayless, does that mean we should have brought back Sergio?

Sergio had the 5th, 12th, and 31st greatest-ever Blazer seasons for assists per minute. You won't find Bayless on the list.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=a9XMt

I think your reasoning is a little off.... we got rid of Telfair to make room for Roy.

We got rid of Jack because.... he sucks.

We got rid of Sergio because... he sucks.

We didn't get rid of Telfair, Jack, and Sergio "to make room"... we got rid of them because they were bad.
 
That's the problem with Bayless. He hurts you for 3 or 4 games in a row, then has a really nice game and suddenly he's an all-star in people's minds. Then another crappy 3 or 4 games before a good one... it's all fool's gold.

It's a shame he's 27 years old and pretty much topped out. If he were, say, 22 and around the age of many draft picks from this year, the inconsistency would make sense and there would be the chance of becoming more consistently good as he got closer to his prime.
 
The weirdest thing about that game was finding out that Ben Wallace had a career high tying 23 points. That just doesn't seem possible IMO. If a guy can get 20 rebounds or more in a game during his prime wouldn't you think he would score more than 23 at least once?

Bayless sucks.
 
It's a shame he's 27 years old and pretty much topped out. If he were, say, 22 and around the age of many draft picks from this year, the inconsistency would make sense and there would be the chance of becoming more consistently good as he got closer to his prime.

It really is a shame, isn't it?
 
It's a shame he's 27 years old and pretty much topped out. If he were, say, 22 and around the age of many draft picks from this year, the inconsistency would make sense and there would be the chance of becoming more consistently good as he got closer to his prime.

How would you know? Who told you what it's like to be 27?
 
Good for Bayless. His inconsistency drove me bonkers.....but even when he was struggling, he played his heart out. That's not something I can say about everybody on the current roster.
 
What about Brandon Rush??

12.6 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 44% three point shooting off the bench.

That's exactly what we need right now. An actual shooter who can score off the bench. Neither Bayless or Rudy were/are that.
 
What about Brandon Rush??

12.6 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 44% three point shooting off the bench.

That's exactly what we need right now. An actual shooter who can score off the bench. Neither Bayless or Rudy were/are that.

Maybe you didn't notice, but wings aren't "exactly what we need right now"...
 
Maybe you didn't notice, but wings aren't "exactly what we need right now"...

Maybe you didn't notice but we need someone who can make shots off the bench. The drop off from an injured Roy to a healthy Rudy is horrific. If this team needs ANYTHING right now is a scorer off the bench. Rush is one of the best.

I mean, did you watch the last game? The bench was horrible. We were only good when all 5 starters were in the game.
 
Maybe you didn't notice but we need someone who can make shots off the bench. The drop off from an injured Roy to a healthy Rudy is horrific. If this team needs ANYTHING right now is a scorer off the bench. Rush is one of the best.

I mean, did you watch the last game? The bench was horrible. We were only good when all 5 starters were in the game.

That's because our backup shooting guard is playing our starting small forward spot. Maybe if we moved Roy to the bench and started Batum again, we'd have some better scoring :grin:
 
Whaaaat!? Bayless had a good game in his NBA career? Get out of here. That said, we could kind of use him right now, however the Hornets may cool off if their ownership situation starts grinding on them.


3-7 since 11-1 start. some chance this could still turn into a low lottery pick.
 
I think he was waiting for you to make those posts.

Where have I made posts like that before? I don't point out players stats once they're gone, they're gone. I don't care
 
Damon Stoudamire was rookie of the year playing one man army on a crappy Toronto team.
That is Jerryds new role, and one that suits him. Unfortunately with his limited skill set he will never thrive on a good TEAM.
 
It's a shame he's 27 years old and pretty much topped out. If he were, say, 22 and around the age of many draft picks from this year, the inconsistency would make sense and there would be the chance of becoming more consistently good as he got closer to his prime.

You were saying the same thing when Telfair was 22. Sometimes you are what you are.
 
Maybe you didn't notice but we need someone who can make shots off the bench. The drop off from an injured Roy to a healthy Rudy is horrific. If this team needs ANYTHING right now is a scorer off the bench. Rush is one of the best.

Even better would be if we had Chris Paul instead of trading down for Martell. And of course, if we'd've drafted Jordan instead of Bowie...

I know! Let's play POSSIBLE WORLD BASKETBALL: if you don't like the actual Blazers, you can be a fan of the Possible Blazer team that is winning multiple championships in a parallel dimension. If you like they can all have goatees and be evil.
 
You were saying the same thing when Telfair was 22. Sometimes you are what you are.

Sometimes. But, at that age, usually not.

As I said in that post, "there's a chance" he could become more consistent, since he's still well away from his prime. If I said the same about Telfair (and I probably did, since he was even younger than Bayless at the time), I was right. There was a chance, due to how much time he had before his expected prime. The fact that that it didn't happen derailed his career. But I would say a player not improving from what he was at the ages 20-22 is as unlikely as a player suffering a career-altering injury. It happens, but it's not the expectation.
 
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Even better would be if we had Chris Paul instead of trading down for Martell. And of course, if we'd've drafted Jordan instead of Bowie...

I know! Let's play POSSIBLE WORLD BASKETBALL: if you don't like the actual Blazers, you can be a fan of the Possible Blazer team that is winning multiple championships in a parallel dimension. If you like they can all have goatees and be evil.

It might be interesting if someone researched the drafts of every team in the league over the last 7-8 years and see what team each would have if they had drafted perfectly.
 
It might be interesting if someone researched the drafts of every team in the league over the last 7-8 years and see what team each would have if they had drafted perfectly.

The problem with the experiment is that each changed, superior pick would have in turn changed every draft position for every season after it. So you really can't build a "could-have-been" team that way.

It would be interesting, though, to see how badly each team, for their slot at the time, missed the best player available for that slot, with the benefit of hindsight. Year by year.
 
That's the problem with Bayless. He hurts you for 3 or 4 games in a row, then has a really nice game and suddenly he's an all-star in people's minds. Then another crappy 3 or 4 games before a good one... it's all fool's gold.

He's got a PER of 20.9 with the Raptors in 10 games. I think that your math of him hurting his team 75-80% is WAY off.

Ed O.
 
That's the problem with Bayless. He hurts you for 3 or 4 games in a row, then has a really nice game and suddenly he's an all-star in people's minds. Then another crappy 3 or 4 games before a good one... it's all fool's gold.

Is that worse then our current bench, which never shows up, 100% of the time?
 

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