OT - Jeremy Tyler Going To Europe, After Junior Year Of High School

[BasX]

Jennings was a one and done college player if we were to go to Arizona as planned so therefore he was planning on just one year over seas anyway.

 

[BIG Q]

Does anybody have a problem with child actors getting their "education" on the various sets of the movies they are filming? What about the teen age pop stars that are touring the world? Why can they do it but an athlete should not be allowed? The athlete has the shortest career expectancy. They are the ones that should start earning using their skill as soon as they can.

 

[KingSpeed]

Why is he bitching about scratches and bruises? Won't he get those daily in the NBA?

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

Why is he bitching about scratches and bruises? Won't he get those daily in the NBA?

I think what he was complaining about was the level of his competition. His team was so shitty that other teams just triple teamed them. The other teams foulers were probably dorky high school athletes, so they were fouling pretty badly verusus professional athletes who know the game.

I think its more likely to get hurt playing with people who suck than with people who are good and do it for a living rather than do it just to nail the cheerleaders and get a lettermans.

 

[julius]

I think what he was complaining about was the level of his competition. His team was so shitty that other teams just triple teamed them. The other teams foulers were probably dorky high school athletes, so they were fouling pretty badly verusus professional athletes who know the game.

Now he can look forward to being fouled by pro athletes like Trevor Ariza.


Zing!

 

[BasX]

I think what he was complaining about was the level of his competition. His team was so shitty that other teams just triple teamed them. The other teams foulers were probably dorky high school athletes, so they were fouling pretty badly verusus professional athletes who know the game.

I think its more likely to get hurt playing with people who suck than with people who are good and do it for a living rather than do it just to nail the cheerleaders and get a lettermans.

Ditto, dude got quadruple teamed many times.

 

[number 10]

So, if playing in Europe is such great experience for a player, why is Jennings in such a big rush to come back?

I'm pretty sure that Jennings is automatically eligible for the draft. Besides, with this being such a weak class he has a chance to be top-5.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Foolish decision.

If you are dumber than a box of rocks and have a high probability of not being able to complete high school or stay eligible for a year of college then why not take that six figure paycheck and get some OJT?

The goal is to play hoop for a living which is exactly what he'll be doing. If he's not worried about the college experience or being well educated or well rounded that's his choice.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Financially it's a good move but it could plummet their stock.

Brandon Jennings was mediocre at best.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I'm pretty sure that Jennings is automatically eligible for the draft. Besides, with this being such a weak class he has a chance to be top-5.

IIRC, Jennings isn't required to enter the draft this year. To be automatically entered into the pool, you either have to exhaust your college eligibility, or be playing in Europe beyond a certain age. (23?)

Jennings may be gambling on this being a weak draft, but if he thought his play in Europe was *improving* his value, he could keep his name out.

 

[THE HCP]

Don't hockey players all over do this every year?

 

[Nikolokolus]

Don't hockey players all over do this every year?

and soccer players, and Euro hoops players (Rudy, Sergio, Rubio, Freeland, etc.) It's a new world.

 

[Freshtown]

Some videos for reference... looks like a beast. Freakishly athletic and mobile for being 6'11. With his frame, he could easily fill out to be a massive threat in the post.

[video=youtube;qdc9FLt1Ovc]

[video=youtube;SaJcyVNju4k]

 

[number 10]

IIRC, Jennings isn't required to enter the draft this year. To be automatically entered into the pool, you either have to exhaust your college eligibility, or be playing in Europe beyond a certain age. (23?)

Jennings may be gambling on this being a weak draft, but if he thought his play in Europe was *improving* his value, he could keep his name out.

http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonathan-Givony/

-Brandon Jennings, 1989 ‘International’, Lottomatica Roma- Will be automatically eligible for this draft according to the Collective Bargaining Agreement as an American high school player who “signed a player contract with a ‘professional basketball team not in the NBA’ that is located anywhere in the world, and has rendered services under such contract prior to the Draft.

 

[rocketeer]

So, if playing in Europe is such great experience for a player, why is Jennings in such a big rush to come back?

to play in the nba.

 

[oldmangrouch]

http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jonathan-Givony/

Interesting. I thought it was his choice, but that quote implies he has no say in the matter. That would seem to be a disincentive, since he would have fewer rights than his European team-mates.

 

[Run BJM]

Don't hockey players all over do this every year?

Hockey, Tennis, actors, musicians, European athletes in most sports I believe. A lot of them start at 12-14 years of age too, living without their parents playing for junior teams and whatnot.

 

[BlazersBlood]

I see no downside for him. He'll probably learn more about life living on the road in Europe and earning a paycheck than he would be partying up in a dorm on campus.

It's a good move for him career wise too. A lot of people complain about how the American game has become so individualized and the European players have higher "team" basketball IQ's. The kid will learn a lot about the game by playing against other professional athletes working for a paycheck by playing ball.

 

[Ed O]

I think we can look at it from a few different angles:

1. Is it best for his financial future?
2. Is it best for his basketball future?
3. It is good for college basketball?

In inverse order, I think this is GOOD for college basketball. Let players who want to play college ball go to college and let others ... do something else. The NCAA is too often, IMO, acting as a minor league for the NBA and I would rather actually have a minor league than have schools jumping through hoops to get a kid who doesn't want to be there eligible.

I don't know if it's good for his basketball future. He might languish on the bench for two years... that's the way international clubs TEND to treat young players. A lesser team won't pay him what he wants and a more significant team might not give him money. Of course, why would a team pay him and then sit him?

Financially, I think this makes a ton of sense. A "college education" is something that can be picked up pretty much whenever one wants... assuming one is willing to go into debt to do it. Players making a living for a year or two before the NBA are going to be better off, financially, than they'd be going to college unless (a) their draft position is adversely impacted, or (b) they get hurt. Of course, either of those things can happen in college, too.

I hope the kid succeeds and I hope it leads to a true alternative to college for very very good players that have no interest in studying.

Ed O.

 

[ABM]

......not even finishing high school is a fucking disgrace....

I never finished high school. I suppose that make me a total loser.

 

[BlazerBeav]

I cannot believe that adults are actually advocating a high school junior to skip his senior year of high school to go play basketball. I realize it sounds great to him, but shouldn't his Dad (obviously not the slime ball agent) have more common sense?

 

[RW#30]

Foolish decision.

Why?

Rudy played in the Spanish league at age 15. Batum played at 17?

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

I cannot believe that adults are actually advocating a high school junior to skip his senior year of high school to go play basketball. I realize it sounds great to him, but shouldn't his Dad (obviously not the slime ball agent) have more common sense?

What is the advantage of staying in high school versus making hundreds of thousands of dollars and playing with better players for what is very likely going to be his career instead?

Seriously, I'm curious as what a "high school diploma" will get him.

 

[MAS RipCity]

I never finished high school. I suppose that make me a total loser.

damn skippy


Seriously, just joking. It was a more tailored comment towards the kid. There are always exceptions to the rule and I hope you didn't take offense, if you did than I apologize

 

[BlazersBlood]

If my son or daughter had a chance to make hundreds of thousands of dollars before graduating high school, and high school was in the way, I'd tell them to drop out and make that money. They can ALWAYS go back for education if that opportunity evaporates. ALWAYS. In fact, if they get paid and flame out, then they can pay for a great college education to pursue their next dream.

Seriously, high school doesn't mean shit. College is a much more healthy atmosphere to get an education as compared to the the clique filled high schools.

Rather than trying to look at basketball as just a game, try to relate it to something that an average Joe would be doing. If your 16 year old son got a marketing business going and he was offered a contract to work for Nike for $350,000, would you stop him from taking the job because he hasn't graduated high school yet? Or would you say, "that would be a fucking disgrace to you and this family! You are not dropping out of high school to pursue a once in a lifetime business opportunity. You have to take the long, meaningless, and hard road to get to where you need to go because that will make you are real man!" Get the fuck out.

 

[STOMP]

So, if playing in Europe is such great experience for a player, why is Jennings in such a big rush to come back?

to make even more money then he is? I'd also speculate that it's likely been his dream to play in the NBA and next year will be the first that he's eligible. Instead of making no money as a freshman in college he's spent a year going against better competition, getting paid, and seeing the world/being exposed to different cultures.

Choosing to go to Europe for a year or two probably isn't the right call for every elite player but I can certainly see why it would be for some. It doesn't make you an automatic idiot for choosing to do this anymore then it makes you smart for staying in the states and doing the one and done route.

STOMP

 

[Foulzilla]

Personally, I think he should finish High School first, then head to Europe. I think his parents should force the issue. However, it's none of my business really. He has every right to do this. Just hate to see what happens if he blows out a knee in Europe and is stuck with no basketball career and not even a high school diploma to fall back on.

 

[ABM]

damn skippy


Seriously, just joking. It was a more tailored comment towards the kid. There are always exceptions to the rule and I hope you didn't take offense, if you did than I apologize

Nah, I was just messin'.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

Personally, I think he should finish High School first, then head to Europe. I think his parents should force the issue. However, it's none of my business really. He has every right to do this. Just hate to see what happens if he blows out a knee in Europe and is stuck with no basketball career and not even a high school diploma to fall back on.

If he blows out a knee, he can go back to school or get his GED then go to college. And he'll have hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay for it all.

A high school diploma means fuck-all. Its a worthless piece of paper that lets you go to college, but you can get a GED and bypass that anyways.

http://www.earnmydegree.com/online-education/learning-center/education-value.html

Having a high school diploma, on average, means you will make $1.2 million dollars in your life time. He will probably make that by the time he's supposed to be a freshman in college.

Staying in high school for him, if he is going to get a big contract, would be extremely stupid.

 

[LittleAlex]

The NCAA is a corrupt system that uses young athletes to generate hundreds of millions of dollars for itself while giving many of the players a pittance in return. Anything that can eliminate this travesty is a good thing. They have now made it so that underclassmen only have one week to enter then pull out of the draft.

Fuck the NCAA.

I hope this works out for the kid and I hope more kids do it. He doesn't want an education. He may not ever need an education. Why should he be forced to pretend to go to school? Further, in Europe his coaches can work with him all year round. The NCAA forbids it.

Once again, fuck the NCAA.