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The kid is about as consistent as you can get for a big man. He's Avg. 16/12/3 asst. right now and has only had one game without a double double since he came back from his hand injury. He's getting about 5 offensive boards a game..I have always thought he was going to be a solid NBA player but I would honestly take him over Mayo at this point...I thought that trade was really dumb at the time. Too bad our crowd boo's Love every time he comes home...What's up with that?
 
He is quite a nice prospect. Hollinger pretty much nailed it before the draft when he projected him to be one of the best of his class. His rebound rate is amazing, he pulls down 14 per 36 minutes, his PER is at an Oden-like 23.3, and now he's showing the long range touch, shooting 41% on 3s. Still only 21.

I don't know much about his defense but I'd seriously consider trading Aldridge for him. The Wolves probably wouldn't though.
 
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Offensively he's a nice high post player and his rebounding is superb, but his D is below suspect. Thats a real knock against a Big in my view

the Wolves are 5-16 w/Love playing (24%) and 8-31 (21%) overall

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The kid is about as consistent as you can get for a big man. He's Avg. 16/12/3 asst. right now and has only had one game without a double double since he came back from his hand injury. He's getting about 5 offensive boards a game..I have always thought he was going to be a solid NBA player but I would honestly take him over Mayo at this point...I thought that trade was really dumb at the time. Too bad our crowd boo's Love every time he comes home...What's up with that?

my guess is he gets booed cause he didnt go to an Oregon School. As stupid as it is to boo for that. But hell I dont boo Kobe and get looked at awkwardly when I dont, so I might be the wrong person to answer lol.
 
my guess is he gets booed cause he didnt go to an Oregon School. As stupid as it is to boo for that. But hell I dont boo Kobe and get looked at awkwardly when I dont, so I might be the wrong person to answer lol.

You should no longer be allowed in the building. Not boo Kobe? What is wrong with you?
 
They are affectionate boos?

It's because this state is full of U of O honks who think he should have gone and played for Ernie Fucking Kent instead of Ben Howland at UCLA ... Gee, what the hell was Love thinking.
 
Offensively he's a nice high post player and his rebounding is superb, but his D is below suspect. Thats a real knock against a Big in my view

the Wolves are 5-16 w/Love playing (24%) and 8-31 (21%) overall

STOMP

So they are 3% better when he plays than not. What's wrong with that? Secondly, just look at his on-court/off-court numbers and PER differential if you think his D is so bad http://www.82games.com/0910/09MIN10.HTM
That's just a bad team, with no real center, and maybe the worst backcourt in the NBA.
 
It's because this state is full of U of O honks who think he should have gone and played for Ernie Fucking Kent instead of Ben Howland at UCLA ... Gee, what the hell was Love thinking.

I hate the Ducks as much as anyone (what a great win at the Pit by the Beavs on Sunday), but I boo him too. Any Oregon kid going to play for UCLA will draw my ire.
 
I hate the Ducks as much as anyone (what a great win at the Pit by the Beavs on Sunday), but I boo him too. Any Oregon kid going to play for UCLA will draw my ire.

Why would you begrudge a kid going to play for a team that has competed yearly for final four appearances and has one of the best basketball programs in the country? KL knew he was destined for the NBA and wanted to play for a real coach who was going to help develop him and help him get to where he wanted to go.

I would have booed him had he been stupid enough to play for OSU or UofO (and I'm a pretty big Beavers fan).
 
Why would you begrudge a kid going to play for a team that has competed yearly for final four appearances and has one of the best basketball programs in the country? KL knew he was destined for the NBA and wanted to play for a real coach who was going to help develop him and help him get to where he wanted to go.

I would have booed him had he been stupid enough to play for OSU or UofO (and I'm a pretty big Beavers fan).

Sure, because only at UCLA can one develop an NBA game. How's Howland's coaching looking this year? Pretty atrocious despite blue chip talent.
 
You should no longer be allowed in the building. Not boo Kobe? What is wrong with you?

Why boo someone I dont even know? And this last game I am so glad we didnt do the "Kobe Sucks" chant.. yeah I'm not going to join in on a BS chant that is untrue lol. I guess I am there to root for my team, not root against someone else.
 
It's because this state is full of U of O honks who think he should have gone and played for Ernie Fucking Kent instead of Ben Howland at UCLA ... Gee, what the hell was Love thinking.

lol yeah I hear ya on that one. Sure it would be nice if U of O got him.. but why hate a kid for choosing something that is obviously better for him and his future.
 
I hate the Ducks as much as anyone (what a great win at the Pit by the Beavs on Sunday), but I boo him too. Any Oregon kid going to play for UCLA will draw my ire.

Hmm Play for some moron at U of O or go to a program with great history and one of the top fitness facilities in the country?
 
(and I'm a pretty big Beavers fan).

I had no idea lol. I just figured you had no dog in the fight, as I dont think I've seen you chime in on the debates.
 
You should no longer be allowed in the building. Not boo Kobe? What is wrong with you?

Kobe's one of my favourite non-Blazers players. Outside of my emotional investment in the Blazers, I watch the game for entertainment and Kobe is one of the best to watch play.
 
So they are 3% better when he plays than not. What's wrong with that? Secondly, just look at his on-court/off-court numbers and PER differential if you think his D is so bad http://www.82games.com/0910/09MIN10.HTM
That's just a bad team, with no real center, and maybe the worst backcourt in the NBA.

If the Wolves are 5-16 w/Love playing (24%) and 8-31 (21%) overall, then they are 5-16 (.238) with Love and 3-15 (.167) without him. More than .03 difference.

I was wrong about Love and how good he would be... I didn't think he'd be athletic enough or big enough to rebound this well. I expect him to continue to improve as a shooter and, coupled with his passing, he's got potential to be a very good offensive player.

Defensively? I dunno. I expect him to improve (as most players do) but if he's as good on the boards and the offensive end as he appears to be, lack of defense is not THAT big of an issue.

Ed O.
 
Kobe's one of my favourite non-Blazers players. Outside of my emotional investment in the Blazers, I watch the game for entertainment and Kobe is one of the best to watch play.

amazing to watch him play. He makes things seem so freaking easy.. I cant even fathom having his ability.
 
I didn't think he'd be athletic enough or big enough to rebound this well.
Yeah, that was the consensus knock on him, size and athleticism. Surprisingly, he measured at 6ft 9.5in in shoes with a 35-inch running vertical.
 
He's like Wes Unseld.

He has rapidly developed and, IMO, is already a tier above LaMarcus.
 
He's like Wes Unseld.

He has rapidly developed and, IMO, is already a tier above LaMarcus.

Totally agree, and part of that is his passing ... He has literally blown me away -- I considered him a pretty big reach at 5th overall.
 
So they are 3% better when he plays than not. What's wrong with that? Secondly, just look at his on-court/off-court numbers and PER differential if you think his D is so bad http://www.82games.com/0910/09MIN10.HTM
That's just a bad team, with no real center, and maybe the worst backcourt in the NBA.
It would be comical to find a debate arguing that their guards aren't the worst in the league. Do they have a 2 on their roster? They are a terrible team overall as expected.

I don't think any stats really capture whats what on the defensive end so I mostly rely on what I'm seeing. Love is a little shortchanged in the length department as a 4 and not especially quick. While he's okay guarding most 4s he struggles on the regular defensive switches to 3s or 5s, so teams exploit him. Of course they are better with KL then without, as he is one of their best players... hell, I'd love to have him as the 3rd Big behind LA and Greg as he could play with either.

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I would take LA in a heartbeat over him. Not sure of the exact numbers, but LA has dominated him in head-to-heads!
 
I would take LA in a heartbeat over him. Not sure of the exact numbers, but LA has dominated him in head-to-heads!

I would take LMA over him as well but only based on potential. If LMA ever develops the ability to play with passion and be more physical he would easily be one of the top PFs in the league. Love is incredibly smart on the court. He is great at positioning himself to get rebounds without fouling or using a lot of energy so he can do it every minute he's in the game. I've always known he's had an outside shot so it's nice to see him finally able to hit some three's now that Rambis is there and isn't putting a leash on him.
 
He has rapidly developed and, IMO, is already a tier above LaMarcus.

I don't agree that he's a tier above Aldridge. He's more productive than Aldridge, but Aldridge is significantly better than him on defense.
 
He is ok. I think that if he was truly as good as many here make him out to be, Minnesota's record would have been a lot better the last few seasons.
 
If Lamarcus was in Love's position he wouldn't be winning that team any games. They just don't have the players to compete on a nightly basis. You can put Love in any offense and he would be putting up the same numbers he is now. He doesn't demand a lot of possessions to get his points. He's getting about 5 offensive boards a game that are most likely right around the hoop. That's 8-10 ppg off put backs alone...
 
He is ok. I think that if he was truly as good as many here make him out to be, Minnesota's record would have been a lot better the last few seasons.

This is only his second year; there's not much he could do for the pups when he was at UCLA and Lake O.
 
This is only his second year; there's not much he could do for the pups when he was at UCLA and Lake O.

If he were a TRULY great player, he could have. Instead, he was just stat-stuffing at UCLA and LO, rather than helping the Timberwolves win games.
 

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