OT: Looks like Denver overplayed their hand

[RR7]

No Melo to Nets?

Prokhorov apparently tells his management enough is enough, deal is dead, let's walk away.
I hope so. I hope Denver either takes a lesser deal now, or watches him walk for nothing.

 

[hasoos]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/nba/01/19/nets.carmelo.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

Prokorov calls of the Carmello deal.

 

[hasoos]

Re: No Melo to Nets?

I just started a thread of this as well. If a mod can merge mine with RR7, that would be cool.

 

[hasoos]

Merge please mods.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I'd much rather have Favors than any of the Knicks prospects and their inflated SSOL stats.

Well played, Ujiri!

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Does this mean that 'Melo will, in fact, get his wish and be traded to the Knicks?

Or does it just mean that Prokhorov is a good businessman and knows how to get a better deal by "walking away"?

 

[hasoos]

Does this mean that 'Melo will, in fact, get his wish and be traded to the Knicks?

That sets a horrible presedence for the rest of the league. If the inmates start runing the asylum all we will have is a few super teams and a bunch of turkey teams for them to butcher.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

That sets a horrible presedence for the rest of the league. If the inmates start runing the asylum all we will have is a few super teams and a bunch of turkey teams for them to butcher.

"Start"?

 

[illmatic99]

Does this mean that 'Melo will, in fact, get his wish and be traded to the Knicks?

Does that make Randolph to POR more likely?

 

[Mediocre Man]

He's bluffing, but good for him

 

[Nikolokolus]

Smart move by the Nets. Carmello clearly wants to be a Knick, and if the Nuggets don't get much for him all the better.

 

[hasoos]

"Start"?

That matters at how you look at things. The Miami Heat are the only team that is a team like I am talking about now. The other teams actually put their teams together through trades, and not trades of players who had demanded to be traded to a certain team. I don't recall KG specifically saying he wanted traded to Boston. The same with Gasol, in fact I don't even remember Gasol ever asking to be traded, it kind of was a bomb when it happened.

 

[Nikolokolus]

That matters at how you look at things. The Miami Heat are the only team that is a team like I am talking about now. The other teams actually put their teams together through trades, and not trades of players who had demanded to be traded to a certain team. I don't recall KG specifically saying he wanted traded to Boston. The same with Gasol, in fact I don't even remember Gasol ever asking to be traded, it kind of was a bomb when it happened.

Gasol and KG had both said quietly that they wanted out.

 

[RR7]

Not only that, but KG was saying he wouldn't go to Boston initially, and only relented after they added Allen.

 

[maxiep]

Everything I've seen about 'Melo here in Denver is that he's about the money. In his mind, he's a "max" player. He likes the idea that he makes more money than just about anyone else. My point is that he's not going to leave money on the table just for La La.

I bet he signs the extension with the understanding that Denver trades him.

 

[hasoos]

Gasol and KG had both said quietly that they wanted out.

But they didn't demand a specific landing point. They did not say "trade me here or else". They were willing to go to any situation where they had a chance to compete in the playoffs. It could have easily been San Antonio, Dallas, Phoenix, Detroit, etc, all were competitive teams at the time who were constantly in the conference finals.

 

[e_blazer]

Heh...for you guys who want to do a total rebuild, maybe Cho should step in and make a deal for Melo. Maybe we could get one nice playoff run and then use him as sign-and-trade bait this summer.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

would love for Melo to get screwed out of money b/c of his wishy washiness.

 

[illmatic99]

I don't think this is any negotiation tactic. He seems like he means business.

Check out the quotes: http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_17139284?source=rss

 

[chris_in_pdx]

Not only that, but KG was saying he wouldn't go to Boston initially, and only relented after they added Allen.

Yep, a lot of people forget that Boston provided the blueprint for what happened in Miami. Adding Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett to a roster with Paul Pierce was, back then, considered creating a "superteam", and they won the title doing it. KG and Allen weren't as brazenly open about their intentions as LeBron and Bosh, but were villified all the same (though not to same degree).

 

[illmatic99]

Wow. He answered these questions in a press conference. http://www.nba.com/video/

I'm surprised they were so open about this.

 

[hasoos]

Yep, a lot of people forget that Boston provided the blueprint for what happened in Miami. Adding Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett to a roster with Paul Pierce was, back then, considered creating a "superteam", and they won the title doing it. KG and Allen weren't as brazenly open about their intentions as LeBron and Bosh, but were villified all the same (though not to same degree).

Yes but it could easily have been many other teams, they just chose not to go get them. Could San Antonio have got them. You bet they could. So could have Dallas, and the Detroit Pistons who were contenders back then. Phoenix as well. It wasn't a player saying I am going here and no where else.

 

[illmatic99]

If you can't see the NBA.com videsos:

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Bizarre.

 

[Blazinaway]

I don't think this is any negotiation tactic. He seems like he means business.

Check out the quotes: http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_17139284?source=rss

Damn, good for him, Denver pushed too hard and now they get less, haha

 

[Minstrel]

"In Soviet Russia, Nets hang up on YOU."

 

[44Thrilla]

He could be bluffing

 

[oldmangrouch]

would love for Melo to get screwed out of money b/c of his wishy washiness.

Honestly, I don't care how Melo makes out - I just want to see a division rival get weaker! It's time for somebody else to have problems.

 

[PapaG]

"In Soviet Russia, Nets hang up on YOU."

Moral of the story:

Do not mess with the Russian mob (allegedly).

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Some executives believe Nets dropping out will open up the bidding. "Favors was the big chip," says West exec. "No one could match that."

SI Sources: Nuggets "extremely upset" by Nets decision to withdraw from trade talks.

-ChrisMannixSI 'Twitter

That's what you get Denver! They got too greedy and it came back to bite them in the ass.

 

[Sedatedfork]

"In Soviet Russia, Nets hang up on YOU."

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