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15 yards Unsportsmanlike Conduct.....LMAO...
				
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I applaud them!
I feel it was the right move on Maryland's part.
I wouldn't hesitate to do it again. The penalty for one kickoff is nothing, compared to the volume, of the lack of gesture.
Exactly... This spoke volumes louder than anything else could have... I think they were awesome for doing so
I agree with Steve-The Hammer of Thor....
One small 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, is not going to make the difference in the outcome of most games, and being penalized for not shaking hands is a minor thing.
Pedophilia amongst Penn State's Program, is a MAJOR statement, speaking volumes louder than the simple penalty.
This would of never made news, had it not of been for the the revealing of 'the lack of gesture or good will" towards Penn St.
I'd do it again with every team in the Big East Conference too.
Sure alot of the Sandusky case got overblown. I'm still not, and I doubt anyone is knowledgeable of what Joe PaPa knew. I bet he knew of no details, other than allegations. Sandusky has been found guilty, a pedophile, and some peeps just don't take lightly to a program, known for devastating the most winning-est coach In NCAA history, being removed from the record books entirely. Or the downright onslaught of sodomizing young kids....!!!
In one line: Penn State is Lucky they even have a Football Program, upon Sandusky Sanctions. They're damn lucky the FB program carried on, it did not have to, the NCAA could of easily pulled their charter. Can anyone name a worse offense that would constitute closing down a NCAA Program. Maybe murder/mayhem against opposing teams....or their own children??? IMO, those innocent kids/victims had their souls murdered, at Penn State.
What does it take to bring awareness to a program already found guilty for a out of control pedophile scandal. IMO, it doesn't get worse than pedophilia, other than cold blooded murder. I'm sure half of those kids, victims of Sandusky, wish they were dead at one point or another. Imagine the shame, pain, fear and suffering they endured. And that is not worthy of a "lack of gesture" by opposing Teams??? It's a wonder a worse stronger series of sanctions, did not take place by the NCAA.
The pen is mightier at times than the sword. The failure to shake hands, is much mightier than a 15 yard penalty. No one says you must shake hands during a coin toss. There is a written rule to do so, but no one says you gotta' do as much.
Why the Big East (now defunct by the way)... You have an issue with my Rutgers? Did you mean you would do it to every team in the Big East? Or every team in the Big East should do it to Penn State? Or should that read Big 10?
No doubt in my mind mr paterno knew about what was going on and did nothing... no way in hell he didn't know.... The fact the NCAA reinstated Penn State is disgusting.
Why the Big East (now defunct by the way)... You have an issue with my Rutgers? Did you mean you would do it to every team in the Big East? Or every team in the Big East should do it to Penn State? Or should that read Big 10?
No doubt in my mind mr paterno knew about what was going on and did nothing... no way in hell he didn't know.... The fact the NCAA reinstated Penn State is disgusting.
I agree with Steve-The Hammer of Thor....
One small 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, is not going to make the difference in the outcome of most games, and being penalized for not shaking hands is a minor thing.
Pedophilia amongst Penn State's Program, is a MAJOR statement, speaking volumes louder than the simple penalty.
This would of never made news, had it not of been for the the revealing of 'the lack of gesture or good will" towards Penn St.
I'd do it again with every team in the Big East Conference too.
Sure alot of the Sandusky case got overblown. I'm still not, and I doubt anyone is knowledgeable of what Joe PaPa knew. I bet he knew of no details, other than allegations. Sandusky has been found guilty, a pedophile, and some peeps just don't take lightly to a program, known for devastating the most winning-est coach In NCAA history, being removed from the record books entirely. Or the downright onslaught of sodomizing young kids....!!!
In one line: Penn State is Lucky they even have a Football Program, upon Sandusky Sanctions. They're damn lucky the FB program carried on, it did not have to, the NCAA could of easily pulled their charter. Can anyone name a worse offense that would constitute closing down a NCAA Program. Maybe murder/mayhem against opposing teams....or their own children??? IMO, those innocent kids/victims had their souls murdered, at Penn State.
What does it take to bring awareness to a program already found guilty for a out of control pedophile scandal. IMO, it doesn't get worse than pedophilia, other than cold blooded murder. I'm sure half of those kids, victims of Sandusky, wish they were dead at one point or another. Imagine the shame, pain, fear and suffering they endured. And that is not worthy of a "lack of gesture" by opposing Teams??? It's a wonder a worse stronger series of sanctions, did not take place by the NCAA.
The pen is mightier at times than the sword. The failure to shake hands, is much mightier than a 15 yard penalty. No one says you must shake hands during a coin toss. There is a written rule to do so, but no one says you gotta' do as much.
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Maybe I missed something - I'm being serious when I ask:
What does the past offenses of years ago have to do with the current players and coach and team?

Honestly I wondered the same thing, and thought, I'd have to ask the Terp Players as to why now?
Then I got to thinking, (and no I didn't hurt myself in doing as much-Doh), but I think the suitor to explain why past indiscretions from a football team, now free of its villains, would have to be directed to the Victims of such indiscretions.
On that note, ie victims, their pain, misery, mental status, will live on forever, even tho' Penn State can consider themselves clean.
Also, how does one make a serious wrong into what's right, regardless of time, that does not heal all wounds, for indiscretions of victims which last the entire life time of those victims.
Regardless of how any of us feel, on either side of the debate or debacle, our input really doesn't count, as far as the victims abused rights; and/or the victims lifetime suffering which will continue on the rest of their lives.
Sad, anyway ya' cut it.....!
This looks like a can't win for losing subject, IMHO. All I am trying to do is bring awareness the program, and victims abuse will continue on for how long. How long is fair to a victim? I'm sure its more a lifetime. How long should Penn St. continue to pay or atone, IMO, I would of shut down the program down for a decade or more. How does one decide when restitution is fair and complete, if your a victim, I know the answers would differ from both sides of the coin, ie the Penn St FB program, vs the Victims anguished lives, forever ruined by as much. Just my 2 cent cheap opinion, and 2 cents won't even buy a guy a tootsie roll, or stick of Bazooka Gum....
What's your thoughts bldrides? Just curious, not gonna' debate any point you make, not my intent, I would love to hear tho' your take, on how and when Penn St. should be free of indiscretions now towards their FB Team. Inquiring minds wanna' know. That is all.
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If the Maryland players truly believed they were making a statement of solidarity and sympathy for the victims, I applaud them.
However, the Penn St administrators and coaches who were associated with the scandal are no longer there and the actions of the Maryland players can be, and probably were insulting and HURTFUL to these current, innocent Penn St players.
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If the Maryland players truly believed they were making a statement of solidarity and sympathy for the victims, I applaud them.
However, the Penn St administrators and coaches who were associated with the scandal are no longer there and the actions of the Maryland players can be, and probably were insulting and HURTFUL to these current, innocent Penn St players.
Apparently the Maryland team is looking at this as a case of, "The sins of the father" which is just wrong IMO. You can't blame John for something Paul did. & no I'm not referring to two of the Beatles.
I think it was more than this, I think they were trying to jump start a rivalry....
Sorry for the errror Steve. I enjoy NCAA Football in all Divisions. I meant all the other Big 10 Teams should do the same to the Nittany Lions.
BTW- I do have plenty of love for Rutgers, my oldest Son is a Rutgers Alumni. Graduated the same year the greatest RB Rutgers probably ever had, ie, Rice. Rice carried that team on his back. It saddens me, Rice destroyed himself by not being able to control himself.
I only say, I'm not sure what Joe PaPa knew on this entire Sandusky debacle. I don't buy any one saying "Joe didn't know", I simply mean to what extent did Joe know about the issues. I for one, don't have a clue other than what I've read or heard on the News. My point is simple, how much did Joe know, which the papers, TV News, and even Judicial System knew, reported or had evidence on Joe.
Just saying, I'm flying blind on Joe. If he knew of everything; he too should of gladly received his own sanctions, and loss of records; which did happen, so I assume on that note, perhaps Joe did know enough he should of acted on this horrible event. Called the proper authorities, or was he in too deep, or too involved in looking the other way? Even if he was simply told one time, there was a problem with kids and Sandusky, which I have heard and read that much.....
These big divisions continuous changing of their Divisions, have got my mind turning like a tornado. We had the Big 8, then that became the Big 12. Whatever happened to the Big East, did that div. indeed become the Big-10. We've had the Pac 10, now the Big 12. The SEC West vs East? IMO, they are all Southern....one big conference at that.
I graduated from Rutgers in 2001...
The Big East disbanded (football only) after years of one team after another leaving for another conference. Currently, there is the American Athletic Conference which has the few who hadn't left (Cincinnati, Connecticut, Temple, & South Florida), but that was basically it... Look at all the teams that left... ACC has Syracuse, Boston College, Louisville, Miami, Virginia Tech, & Pittsburgh... Big 12 has West Virginia... TCU had accepted an invitation to join the Big East in 2010, and then changed its mind... Big 10 has Rutgers...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference_(1979-2013)
Thanks Steve, I swear I may never get the Big 10 versus Big East straight. The original Big 8, has made so many changes its hard to keep track of who's still left, and who left for other Conferences. Pac 10, I mean 12 also. NTM-The SEC, my own personal favorite Conference in NCAA Football.
The SEC is definitely dominant, but the ACC, Big 10, and Pac-12 are no slouches...
Since 1951 when the NCAA began with the Consensus National Champions...
Based off current conference make-up, this is how many championships each conference has won.
AAC has 0 championships
ACC has 10 (2 are shared)
BIG 12 has 11 (2 are shared)
BIG 10 has 20 (10 are shared)
Conference USA has 0
Independents have 6 (3 are shared) (5 for Notre Dame, 1 for BYU)
Mid-American has 0
Mountain West has 0
PAC-12 has 10 (6 are shared)(1 non-shared was stripped)
SEC has 22 (9 are shared)
Good work Steve, that's as good a breakdown of Championships as I've yet to see.
Looks like this years non-BCS, playoff system is going to be interesting. Some xlnt points already being made on EPNU, on how some will get the short end of the stick. Tho' the initial BCS was a debacle also. LSU won the BCS, USC won the Coaches and Writers Polls. The more years went by, seemed like the less emphasis placed on the computerized BCS rankings, came down to approx 30% of team rankings.
I only hope the NCAA finds a method soon, so they quit screwing around, with what we were familiar with, and I didn't have too many complaints when only the Writers and Coaches Polls determined who would play for the Championship.
The more I think of it, regardless, some team is always going to be short changed, or scream foul, and probably rightfully so....
Ah the days of Woody Hayes, and Paul Bear Bryant, heck even Bobby Bowden, Spurrier in Fla., Osborne at Nebraska vs. The Sooners of Switzer, (that used to be the best NCAA game on the day after Thanksgiving, IMO)....Scnellenberger and Johnson at the U of Miami,....et al....
Apparently the Maryland team is looking at this as a case of, "The sins of the father"

OK, did a little more digging and had some time to type it out
So, without further a due........
The SEC is dominant, but not by much over the Big 10.... But the ACC, Pac-12, & Independents are no slouches...
Since 1951 when the NCAA began with the Consensus National Champions...
Based off current conference make-up, this is how many championships each conference has won.
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AAC has 0 championships
ACC has 12 (2 are shared) (I previously had 10)
BIG 12 has 11 (2 are shared)
BIG 10 has 20 (10 are shared)
Conference USA has 0
Independents have 6 (3 are shared) (5 for Notre Dame, 1 for BYU)
Mid-American has 0
Mountain West has 0
PAC-12 has 10 (6 are shared)(1 non-shared was stripped)
SEC has 22 (9 are shared)
Breakdown by year:
1950 = Oklahoma, 1951 = Tennessee, 1952 = Michigan St., 1953 = Maryland, 1954 = Ohio St. & UCLA, 1955 = Oklahoma, 1956 = Oklahoma, 1957 = Ohio St., 1958 = Iowa & LSU, 1959 = Syracuse, 1960 = Minnesota & Mississippi, 1961 = Alabama & Ohio St., 1962 = USC, 1963 = Texas, 1964 = Alabama & Arkansas & Notre Dame (yes, 3), 1965 = Alabama & Michigan St., 1966 = Michigan St. & Notre Dame, 1967 = USC, 1968 = Ohio St., 1969 = Texas, 1970 = Nebraska & Ohio St. & Texas (yes, 3), 1971 = Nebraska, 1972 = USC, 1973 = Alabama & Notre Dame, 1974 = Oklahoma & USC, 1975 = Oklahoma, 1976 = Pittsburgh, 1977 = Notre Dame, 1978 = Alabama & USC, 1979 = Alabama, 1980 = Georgia, 1981 = Clemson, 1982 = Penn St., 1983 = Miami, 1984 = BYU, 1985 = Oklahoma, 1986 = Penn St., 1987 = Miami, 1988 = Notre Dame, 1989 = Miami, 1990 = Colorado & Georgia Tech, 1991 = Miami & Washington, 1992 = Alabama, 1993 = Florida St., 1994 = Nebraska, 1995 = Nebraska, 1996 = Florida, 1997 = Michigan & Nebraska, 1998 = Tennessee, 1999 = Florida St., 2000 = Oklahoma, 2001 = Miami, 2002 = Ohio St., 2003 = LSU & USC, 2004 = USC (was stripped away by NCAA), 2005 = Texas, 2006 = Florida, 2007 = LSU, 2008 = Florida, 2009 = Alabama, 2010 = Auburn, 2011 = Alabama, 2012 = Alabama, & 2013 = Florida St.
Breakdown by school (in order of appearance):
Oklahoma = 7 (1 of which was shared)
Tennessee = 2
Michigan St. = 3 (2 of which were shared)
Maryland = 1
Ohio St. = 6 (3 of which were shared)
UCLA = 1 (it was shared)
Iowa = 1 (it was shared)
LSU = 3 (2 of which were shared)
Syracuse = 1
Minnesota = 1 (it was shared)
Mississippi = 1 (it was shared)
Alabama = 10 (5 of which were shared)
USC = 7 (3 of which were shared)(1 non-shared was stripped away by NCAA)
Texas = 4 (1 of which was shared)
Arkansas = 1 (it was shared)
Notre Dame = 5 (3 of which were shared)
Nebraska = 5 (2 of which were shared)
Pittsburgh = 1
Georgia = 1
Clemson = 1
Penn St. = 2
Miami = 5 (1 of which was shared)
BYU = 1
Colorado = 1 (it was shared)
Georgia Tech = 1 (it was shared)
Washington = 1 (it was shared)
Florida St. = 3
Florida = 3
Michigan = 1 (it was shared)
Auburn = 1
Breakdown by conference with each school(s) included:
Based off CURRENT conference make-up, this is how many championships each conference has won.
AAC has 0 championships
ACC has 12 (2 are shared)
Florida St. = 3, Clemson = 1, Syracuse = 1, Georgia Tech = 1 (it was shared), Miami = 5 (1 of which was shared), & Pittsburgh = 1
BIG 12 has 11 (2 are shared)
Oklahoma = 7 (1 of which was shared), Texas = 4 (1 of which was shared),
BIG 10 has 20 (10 are shared)
Michigan St. = 3 (2 of which were shared), Ohio St. = 6 (3 of which were shared), Maryland = 1, Michigan = 1 (it was shared), Penn St. = 2, Nebraska = 5 (2 of which were shared), Minnesota = 1 (it was shared), & Iowa = 1 (it was shared)
Conference USA has 0
Independents have 6 (3 are shared)
Notre Dame = 5 (3 of which were shared) & BYU = 1
Mid-American has 0
Mountain West has 0
PAC-12 has 10 (6 are shared)(1 non-shared was stripped)
Washington = 1 (it was shared), USC = 7 (3 of which were shared)(1 non-shared was stripped away by NCAA), UCLA = 1 (it was shared), & Colorado = 1 (it was shared)
SEC has 22 (9 are shared)
Georgia = 1, Florida = 3, Tennessee = 2, Alabama = 10 (5 of which were shared), Auburn = 1, Mississippi = 1 (it was shared), LSU = 3 (2 of which were shared), & Arkansas = 1 (it was shared)
Schools with the most:
Alabama has 10 (5 shared), Oklahoma has 7 (1 shared), USC has 7 (3 shared, 1 stripped), Ohio St. has 6 (3 shared), & 3 schools have 5 (Notre Dame, Nebraska, & Miami)
Schools with the most non-shared:
Oklahoma has 6, Alabama has 5, Miami has 4, & 6 schools have 3 (USC had 4 and were stripped to 3, Ohio St., Texas, Nebraska, Florida St., & Florida)
Most by State:
Florida & Alabama have the most by state each with 11 Florida gets the edge as only 1 was shared vs Alabama had 5 shared.
FWIW, I’m NOT going back and looking to see which team belonged to which conference at the time each championship was won… don’t have that kinda time. If anyone else wants to, go nuts.![]()
Wow Steve, that took a lot of hard diligent work. Thank You very much for the data....2nd to none. Pat on your back...!!!
Thank yee
It wasn't that hard to look up, it was on Wikipedia, but I wrote it out on paper & then typed it out when I had time?