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The Minnesota Timberwolves have come to a mutual agreement with Kevin McHale that he will not return as coach next season.

A person with knowledge of the decision, speaking on condition of anonymity because an announcement had not been made, told The Associated Press on Wednesday that McHale and new boss David Kahn had decided to part ways.

That confirms a Twitter message posted by the Timberwolves' Kevin Love early Wednesday that read, "Today is a sad day ... Kevin McHale will NOT be back as head coach this season."
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- RealGM wire

He would be a great bigman coach for Greg.
 
I wouldn't call it a no-brainer, but it should be explored as a possibility. Some people can coach and some can't. Majic Johnson couln't coach to save his life and yet one would think he'd be a great PG coach. Just because Kevin was a very good player doesn't speak to how well he can coach Oden.
 
Yes, this is what I've hoped for for a while. McHale and Olajuwon had the best footwork in the post ever. McHale's was more conventional, though. I think he would be an amazing help to Oden, especially since his post-playing success has been in coaching (rather than in general managing).
 
It says that he won't be the coach, but it doesn't say he won't be part of the organization, does it?
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
I wouldn't call it a no-brainer, but it should be explored as a possibility. Some people can coach and some can't. Majic Johnson couln't coach to save his life and yet one would think he'd be a great PG coach. Just because Kevin was a very good player doesn't speak to how well he can coach Oden.
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Yes, but McHale has already shown that he CAN coach. He's a terrible GM, but the Wolves performed significantly better with him on the bench then with Randy Wittman.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
According to the AP Report, he's no longer with the Wolves in any capacity.
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Does it seem kind of shady from the Minny side? Asked the guy to fire the coach and to coach the team himself and give up his managerial duties, then hired a new GM that relieved him of his coaching duties? I dunno, it all seems like a passive aggressive way to fire someone. :dunno:
 
BLAZER PROPHET said:
I wouldn't call it a no-brainer, but it should be explored as a possibility. Some people can coach and some can't. Majic Johnson couln't coach to save his life and yet one would think he'd be a great PG coach. Just because Kevin was a very good player doesn't speak to how well he can coach Oden.
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Magic wasn't actually that bad a coach - he just had no patience whatsoever. When he took over, he drove them REALLY hard, they went on a winning streak, then everybody burnt out and they went on a losing streak, and he quit at the end of the season.

Re: McHale. You're right that being good at something doesn't automatically make you a good teacher of it. BUT - who's the young player with the best low-post game in the league? I would say probably Al Jefferson. Coincidence?

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Plus, McHale is supposed to be a relentlessly sunny personality, which I think would work well with Greg.

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But Al jefferson had most of that talent when he was iN Boston. Before McHale was his coach.
 
RR7 said:
But Al jefferson had most of that talent when he was iN Boston. Before McHale was his coach.
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I agree. If anything, the only thing that changed was the focus of the offense.
 
I'd say Yao Ming has the best post game and post footwork. Of course, Olajuwon has worked with him in the past, but I'm not sure how much.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
relentlessly sunny personality
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kevin.mchale.jpg
 
RR7 said:
But Al jefferson had most of that talent when he was iN Boston. Before McHale was his coach.
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You don't teach talent, you teach technique. McHale has had a lot to do with Al's improvement curve being that steep.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Yes, but McHale has already shown that he CAN coach. He's a terrible GM, but the Wolves performed significantly better with him on the bench then with Randy Wittman.
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Well, he was also fired over his coaching ability and it also doesn't speak at all as to how he can coach big men.

Don't misunderstand me, we should look into having him on staff. All I'm saying is that the fact he was a good player does not automatically qualify him as a great coach for centers.
 
Sorry, shouldn't have used talent then. Al Jefferson had relaly good technique in Boston as well. I am sure some of it is getting refined. But he was a very goodpost player iN boston, and isn't worlds better now in Minnesota. The primary difference is being the focus of the offense, so getting 18-20 shots per game instead of the 13 he was getting his last year in Boston.
 
BlazersBlood said:
Yeah, is it realistic to expect him to go from GM to big man coach? That seems like a major stretch to me.
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If he has no other offers, it would be that or retirement. He might prefer retirement, but I can easily see him preferring to work with a potentially elite big man rather than do nothing.

If he's an in-demand head coach, then he probably wouldn't be interested in a position as a big man coach for Oden.
 
Would anyone be surprised to know that in McHale's first stint of coaching in 2004 and in the games this year before Al Jefferson got hurt he has a .524 winning % compared to Nate's .498 winning %
 
Mediocre Man said:
Would anyone be surprised to know that in McHale's first stint of coaching in 2004 and in the games this year before Al Jefferson got hurt he has a .524 winning % compared to Nate's .498 winning %
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And that is supposed to mean what? Most teams that change coaches during the middle of the year get a bump in win improvement. So you are going to compare him taking over a team for part of a year to Nates whole career. I'll tell you what. If we are going to name the terms of what we are comparing, I am just going to compare a single game that Kevin McHale won to Nates whole career. Wow how Nate pales in comprison.......:crazy:
 
Dumb move by the Wolves...I thought McHale was unfairly hated on, I think he has done a good job as GM in recent years, and a wonderful job as a coach...He must have rubbed somebody the wrong way

Wolves will be a good playoff team in two years
 
hasoos said:
And that is supposed to mean what? Most teams that change coaches during the middle of the year get a bump in win improvement. So you are going to compare him taking over a team for part of a year to Nates whole career. I'll tell you what. If we are going to name the terms of what we are comparing, I am just going to compare a single game that Kevin McHale won to Nates whole career. Wow how Nate pales in comprison.......:crazy:
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It means that I think it's funny that people think McHale is a bad coach, but think Nate is Jesus himself.
 
DaRizzle said:
Dumb move by the Wolves...I thought McHale was unfairly hated on, I think he has done a good job as GM in recent years, and a wonderful job as a coach...He must have rubbed somebody the wrong way

Wolves will be a good playoff team in two years
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- Drafted Ray Allen, and traded him for Stephon Marbury
- Made an under the table deal with Joe Smith, costing the T'Wolves multiple first-round picks
- Traded Sam Cassell for Marko Jaric
- Hired Dwane Casey, then fired him after 1.5 seasons for ... Randy Wittman for the 100th time
- Drafted Brandon Roy, traded him for Randy Foye
- First-round draft picks included William Avery, Rashad McCants and Ndudi Ebi

He was KP before KP even existed!
 
alex42083 said:
- Drafted Ray Allen, and traded him for Stephon Marbury
- Made an under the table deal with Joe Smith, costing the T'Wolves multiple first-round picks
- Traded Sam Cassell for Marko Jaric
- Hired Dwane Casey, then fired him after 1.5 seasons for ... Randy Wittman for the 100th time
- Drafted Brandon Roy, traded him for Randy Foye
- First-round draft picks included William Avery, Rashad McCants and Ndudi Ebi

He was KP before KP even existed!
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To be fair, he also drafted Kevin Garnett, who was an extremely risky pick at the time...not at all a slam dunk. Many people weren't sold on Garnett, as one of the first prep-to-pro players (I think the first one other than Moses Malone much earlier).

Plus he signed Cassell and Sprewell in the first place, both controversial moves that worked out in turning Minnesota into a title contender.

That said, I don't think he's a good or great GM. But not quite as horrific as many claim.
 
Minstrel said:
To be fair, he also drafted Kevin Garnett, who was an extremely risky pick at the time...not at all a slam dunk. Many people weren't sold on Garnett, as one of the first prep-to-pro players (I think the first one other than Moses Malone much earlier).

Plus he signed Cassell and Sprewell in the first place, both controversial moves that worked out in turning Minnesota into a title contender.

That said, I don't think he's a good or great GM. But not quite as horrific as many claim.
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He got KG, which is ONE move. But how many times was McHale criticized for not getting enough talent around him? It took the T-Wolves and KG seven straight playoff appearances before they even won a playoff series with one of the best players in the game.

He had a once-in-a-lifetime HoF, MVP player and made it to the WCF once -- the only time they made it out of the first round.
Not exactly a stellar GM resume... along with those other gaffes he's made.
 
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