OT: Nerlens Noel Carted Off Court Tonight

[Natebishop3]

Not sure if I'll make any sense at this hour. Most of the stuff I post at this time of night, I wind up regretting writing, but there are so many ways that the rule hurts the NCAA that I can probably drunkenly think of a few off the top of my head.

For example, the way that the ruling basically delegated the NCAA as a farm league has created a culture of "1-and-dones," hurts the overall recruiting process, and has resulted in hidden agendas, increased transfers, inflated egos, and a sloppier game in general.

Teams like Kentucky, who encourage the "1-and-dones," not only hurt the game with what they're doing to the recruiting landscape, but they also hurt the collegiate game by encouraging teams to play a more individualized style of offense, just to bring in the big recruits. Nowadays, no big time recruit wants to play in Bo Ryan's swing offense, or compete in Tom Izzo's war drills. They'd rather go to the team that treats them as a celebrity and runs an offense that's ISO-heavy, likes to break and play fast, and doesn't place an emphasis on the defensive end of the floor.

I also think a lot more of high school recruits are being hurt by this process than people realize. Even in 2001, it was usually only the "best of the best" recruits trying their hand by leaving early, even if they weren't ready. Now that there's a "1-and-done" rule, it draws an unreasonable attention to the high school prospects, and that has a significant ripple effect on the collegiate game. Now guys in the #15-25 recruit range are looking for schools that can make the "1-and-done," instead of looking for the right fit for them. As a result, you have a lot more inflated egos, a lot more transfers, and an overall headache for any coach that wants to recruit a top 25 recruit.

In a nutshell, it used to be that the recruit was grateful to be apart of a premier program, but now the mindset is that the premier program should be grateful for the recruit, and that can only hurt the collegiate game.

Yeah, but I feel we see that same culture in NCAA football, and they require at least two years of play. I see what you're thinking though, but I would argue that this is sports in general now. It's more of a business than ever before. In fact, I would blame the internet age more than I would place the blame on the one-and-done rule. With youtube, twitter, etc, players are becoming more widely known than they would have ten years ago. Every recruit has a youtube video, and a twitter account, and there is an expectation that they will get to play, and that they are a star. It's an entire generation, and while you might be right and the one-and-done has contributed, I don't think it's even the largest factor.

 

[NOVoodoo]

Yeah, but I feel we see that same culture in NCAA football, and they require at least two years of play. I see what you're thinking though, but I would argue that this is sports in general now. It's more of a business than ever before. In fact, I would blame the internet age more than I would place the blame on the one-and-done rule. With youtube, twitter, etc, players are becoming more widely known than they would have ten years ago. Every recruit has a youtube video, and a twitter account, and there is an expectation that they will get to play, and that they are a star. It's an entire generation, and while you might be right and the one-and-done has contributed, I don't think it's even the largest factor.

I agree with you that the the internet age has added to prospects thinking more highly of themselves, but 19 year old age limit isn't exactly helping things, and in the big picture, it really diminishes the NCAA brand. I'll revisit this after I've slept off this Fat Tuesday though haha...

 

[huevonkiller]

I like whenever NOVooDoo (VC) posts but I don't care if anything hurts the NCAA. I think the European system for farming talent is superior and more moral. These athletes need to get paid, I don't care what the state says.

 

[drexlersdad]

this sucks

i think i remember coach cal mentioning something about how all of the big recruits at UK have multi million dollar insurance policies? is that legal?

 

[drexlersdad]

and cant really say about taking him at #10 or whatever until the news comes out, if its totally shredded, prolly not, if its a blake griffin thing then hell yeah

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

I like whenever NOVooDoo (VC) posts but I don't care if anything hurts the NCAA. I think the European system for farming talent is superior and more moral. These athletes need to get paid, I don't care what the state says.

Agreed. Too much money is being made off these kids to not let them have a share.

I think the one and done rule gets too much of the blame for the demise of college basketball. I think the days of the red ass coach like Bob Knight or one like BoRyan getting a top recruit went away with recruits making better judgement.

For all its faults, the BCS makes the regular season mean something. NCAA basketball regular season means little since so many teams get in.

 

[Mediocre Man]

He will look great in a Blazers uniform next season when he slips and we get a "value" pick in the teens

 

[illmatic99]

He will look great in a Blazers uniform next season when he slips and we get a "value" pick in the teens

If we have a pick in the teens, that is. But that looked Livingston esque.

 

[Mediocre Man]

If we have a pick in the teens, that is. But that looked Livingston esque.

I was being sarcastic. That was a brutal injury. I hope the kid is alright.

 

[illmatic99]

Ahh. Oops.

But this just highlights how significant that age rule is. Dude woulda made a few mil if he came out last year. Now, he has to get lucky enough to keep his scholarship so he can at least get a free education.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Ahh. Oops.

But this just highlights how significant that age rule is. Dude woulda made a few mil if he came out last year. Now, he has to get lucky enough to keep his scholarship so he can at least get a free education.

Calipari is all for the age restriction, so if that's the case he should honor every scholarship he gives....as should all coaches unless criminal activity has taken place

 

[illmatic99]

If he is done playing, though, would they give him a scholarship to get his degree? I know in undergrad, my scholarship was based completely on merit and had to be renewed every year depending on my GPA, etc. Wonder what an athletic scholarship looks like.

 

[Mediocre Man]

If he is done playing, though, would they give him a scholarship to get his degree? I know in undergrad, my scholarship was based completely on merit and had to be renewed every year depending on my GPA, etc. Wonder what an athletic scholarship looks like.

No idea, but I know I have seen in the past that teams have honored scholarships for injured players.

 

[handiman]

If he is done playing, though, would they give him a scholarship to get his degree? I know in undergrad, my scholarship was based completely on merit and had to be renewed every year depending on my GPA, etc. Wonder what an athletic scholarship looks like.

Most athletic scholarships I've seen are to be renewed each year, and it's up to the coach whether to honor one that can't be lived up to. As a somewhat related result, partial scholarships tend to increase over time as more money is freed up.

 

[Blazer4ever]

Narlens Noel is one of my favorite college-players this year. He may have holes in his game like NoVoodoo said but they're only on the offensive end of the floor. Defensively, he's a big time player, worth a top 3 pick if healthy. His dedication to defense and how he defends the rim at a Lamarcus Aldridge/JJ Hickson height is impressive. I hope this injury isn't too serious, for his sake but also for basketball fans, the kid is a special (not one-of-a-kind, but special...) baskeball player.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Done for the year--torn ACL.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Done for the year--torn ACL.

Definitely him then . I assume he will come back for another year of school now though?

 

[Rhal]

Definitely him then . I assume he will come back for another year of school now though?

He wouldn't be ready for next years training camp so I bet he stays. Also you never know how a player will return from an ACL tear so his draft value will plummet if he declares.

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[santeesioux]

If he did come out in the draft, there is probably no way he would still be on the board when we picked, huh?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

If he did come out in the draft, there is probably no way he would still be on the board when we picked, huh?

I think he would. He would probably go mid-first round at best with that gruesome injury.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Interesting study by Kevin Pelton

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2261

 

[Natebishop3]

Tore his ACL.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...ns-noel-kentucky-wildcats-torn-acl-for-season

An MRI on Kentucky Wildcats forward Nerlens Noel revealed he tore the ACL in his left knee and will miss the remainder of the season.

 

[KingSpeed]

Does this kill his chances of getting drafted this year? Will he do another season aT KY?

 

[craigehlo]

He should stay in. KMart got drafted #1 overall with a broken leg.

 

[Rhal]

He should stay in. KMart got drafted #1 overall with a broken leg.

Broken leg and acl tear arent in the same category recovery wise. A clean break and youll be fine in a few months. An ACL tear leaves questions that cant be answered until the person is recovered and back on the court.

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[PapaG]

Calipari is all for the age restriction, so if that's the case he should honor every scholarship he gives....as should all coaches unless criminal activity has taken place

No, he's not. He actually recruits the one-and-done kids because he knows it's a farce, and he'll allow them to play in a pro style offense and defense for a year. There was a big SI article about it last fall, and he's said it many times. Calipari thinks that the college game would be much better served without the age restriction.

http://www.sbnation.com/2012-ncaa-t...tucky-louisville-john-calipari-age-limit-rule

In this case, your "opinion" is provably wrong, but I'm sure you won't budge on it.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Steve Urkel (Chicago) What are your thoughts on Nerlens Noel's injury? Is he still going to declare for the draft this year? Chad Ford (1:46 PM) He hasn't indicated one way or the other, but I think it's likely. Every GM and scout I spoke with believes that he's still a Top 5 pick as long as his rehab is going well. They're willing to be patient. And with Andrew Wiggins coming next year, it's unlikely he'd be the No. 1 pick in 2014 anyway. ESPN.com
Read more at http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#uU5JtEX7pQASpEjG.99

 

[THE HCP]

RED FLAGGED LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER! No thanks.