OT: Oakland likely can't afford to keep Raiders, Los Angeles a realistic option

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As a life-long Raider fan, I can't help but think that moving back to LA won't be better for the franchise. Oakland is a shit hole at this point, and has no money to upgrade the stadium.

http://www.oregonlive.com/nfl/index.ssf/2013/08/raiders_ownership_moving_franc.html

As recently as early June, the plans for a stadium in Los Angeles to house a future NFL team were described as “essentially dead.”

Yet the possibility of a stadium there still has the power to back a city and its citizens against a wall. It has given cities leverage to get taxpayers to build new stadiums or make expensive improvements to old ones—and now, it might subject Oakland and its citizens to the indignity of losing its favorite team to the same city twice in barely three decades.

“Of all the situations, this is the one where moving to LA is most likely to happen,’’ said Victor Matheson, a Holy Cross economics professor and, with colleague Robert Baade, author of several studies on public stadium financing.

“It sucks to be an Oakland Raiders fan—not a Raiders fan, but an Oakland Raiders fan,’’ Matheson added.

Oakland is on the hot seat because the Raiders’ lease with the 47-year-old O.co Coliseum expires after the upcoming season. Owner Mark Davis—the son of Al, who moved the team to LA in 1982—has said he does not want to sign another short-term lease, and a month ago consultants hired by the team proposed a new $800 million, 56,500-seat stadium to local government officials.

The city and county, however, would have to chip in $300 million. With all the other economic challenges facing Oakland, they simply cannot afford it.

But, Matheson pointed out, “The NFL has been masterful in using the LA situation to extract new stadiums out of everybody.’’

The Minnesota Vikings are the latest example: Their stadium in Minneapolis is scheduled to break ground this fall and open in 2016. Just over half of the current $975 million cost will come from public money, according to the Vikings.

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Building a new stadium usually guarantees a Super Bowl in that city. Does the NFL want one in Oakland?
 
bring the raiders to Portland. I'm sure fans in Portland would gladly chip in to bring a NFL football team.

Didn't Al Davis poke around Portland years back using us for leverage?
 
Change the name though if they move to Portland. Kinda like when the Browns left Cleveland and became the Ravens.

Portland Pioneers anyone?
 
LA Raiders would bring a bad element. The franchise LA wants is a corporate one. They don't want all the cholos coming down to fuck up downtown LA

hoop fam
 
LA Raiders would bring a bad element. The franchise LA wants is a corporate one. They don't want all the cholos coming down to fuck up downtown LA

hoop fam

The Dodgers certainly don't care about the cholo element at Chavez Ravine. A man got beat near death there last year, yet nothing happened. Cholo Life is a fact in SoCal these days. May as well market to it, since that demo has money to spend.
 
What about the Filipino gangs in Cali. They're the real problem.
 
The Dodgers certainly don't care about the cholo element at Chavez Ravine. A man got beat near death there last year, yet nothing happened. Cholo Life is a fact in SoCal these days. May as well market to it, since that demo has money to spend.

Yeah but with a new stadium in downtown they want people to eat at their corporate food courts. cholos scare away corporate sponsors and white people

hoop fam
 
Yeah but with a new stadium in downtown they want people to eat at their corporate food courts. cholos scare away corporate sponsors and white people

hoop fam

They can be priced out. Same as whats happening with the Niners as they transition from Candlestick in Hunter's Point to the new stadium in yuppiesville.
 
bring the raiders to Portland. I'm sure fans in Portland would gladly chip in to bring a NFL football team.

Didn't Al Davis poke around Portland years back using us for leverage?

Yup, there was an initiative to build a domed stadium, the first domed stadium, in Portland out at Delta Park. God I wish the voters would have pulled their heads out of their asses and passed that one. We'd probably have a football and baseball team by now.
 
Yup, there was an initiative to build a domed stadium, the first domed stadium, in Portland out at Delta Park. God I wish the voters would have pulled their heads out of their asses and passed that one. We'd probably have a football and baseball team by now.

Wow, when was this? The Portland Raiders would have been badass.
 
They can be priced out. Same as whats happening with the Niners as they transition from Candlestick in Hunter's Point to the new stadium in yuppiesville.

doubt it, you're going to have roves of Raider Nation trash parking their trucks in the middle of the street and BBQ'ing
 
A team in Portland would be very successful IMO. A question for you guys, would you abandon ship of your current favorite team for them or root for both?
 
A team in Portland would be very successful IMO. A question for you guys, would you abandon ship of your current favorite team for them or root for both?

Root for them both. Not sure what I would do when they played each other. I don't live in Oregon anymore so it would probably be easier decision for others.
 
Root for them both. Not sure what I would do when they played each other. I don't live in Oregon anymore so it would probably be easier decision for others.
Same. As a dolphin fan for more than half my life, I can't just go and abandon them. I think I would root for them against the Portland team too.
 
A team in Portland would be very successful IMO. A question for you guys, would you abandon ship of your current favorite team for them or root for both?

If it's an AFC team, like the Raiders, I could easily root for both. If it was an NFC team, or worse, an NFC west team.... that would be hard.
 
Without an NFL team in Portland, I watch NFL but don't root for a team. If one came to Portland, I would root for it. I'm very old that way.
 
Without an NFL team in Portland, I watch NFL but don't root for a team. If one came to Portland, I would root for it. I'm very old that way.

The very first training camp of the Dallas Cowboys was here in Oregon.
 
I would drop the Niners in a second if we got a team, unless it was the Seacocks...
 
I'd love to get an NFL team here. Only 8 home games a year I think it would be ridiculously successful. Baseball has too many games fans would lose interest. There isn’t any Pro or college football in the Portland area. I have no interest in the Seakhawks.

LA is probably the big favorites to get the team, but they have 2 college football teams, 2 NBA teams, 2 baseball teams, and the NHL. I think Portland fans would be a much more passionate fanbase.

But I’m not in favor of public tax dollars subsidizing for profit business so I just don’t see any way the city would be willing to fork over the half a billion dollars it would probably take of financing. I suspect Paul Allen is going to oppose a team coming to Portland since he owns the Seahawks.
 
I'm a die hard raider fan and think moving to Portland would be icing on the cake. Doubt they get a team though.
 
I would love to have them move here, but I don't see it happening. We're too busy spending money on bridges for MAX.
 

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