OT: Phil Jackson: Jordan was better than Kobe

[KingSpeed]

We're getting decades confused. It was the 90s when defense was great. Not the 80s.

 

[MARIS61]

The 80's were still softer defensively, despite what all the pundits say on tv. Fast-paced up-and-down scorefests.

That's ridiculous, and since you weren't even born yet I'm amused that you would make such a silly claim.

Frankly, it's been over a decade since I actually saw someone set a bone-grinding pick or came up bleeding after diving for a loose ball. Stern turned the NBA into a game where nobody gets hurt and we all get certificates of participation.

 

[KingSpeed]

That's ridiculous, and since you weren't even born yet I'm amused that you would make such a silly claim.

Frankly, it's been over a decade since I actually saw someone set a bone-grinding pick or came up bleeding after diving for a loose ball. Stern turned the NBA into a game where nobody gets hurt

Derrick Rose- out of playoffs due to injury
Kobe Bryant- out of playoffs due to injury
Russell Westbrook- out of playoffs due to injury

 

[The_Lillard_King]

What I found interesting about the comparison was there personalities. Jordan had the benefit of playing college and being more mature coming into the NBA. Kobe came in a a high schooler (which was rare back then) and had trouble fitting in. He kept to himself for the most part while Jordan fit in with everyone from players to security guards.

They both are fierce competitors with an incredible drive to win. But Kobe tried to do it on his own while Jordan did it with his team. I think things would have been different if Kobe went to college for at least one year.

 

[Rhal]

Derrick Rose- out of playoffs due to injury
Kobe Bryant- out of playoffs due to injury
Russell Westbrook- out of playoffs due to injury

Those were all non-contact injuries.

 

[KingSpeed]

What I found interesting about the comparison was there personalities. Jordan had the benefit of playing college and being more mature coming into the NBA. Kobe came in a a high schooler (which was rare back then) and had trouble fitting in. He kept to himself for the most part while Jordan fit in with everyone from players to security guards.

They both are fierce competitors with an incredible drive to win. But Kobe tried to do it on his own while Jordan did it with his team. I think things would have been different if Kobe went to college for at least one year.

Agreed. He came to the NBA too early. Half of his life has been working for the Lakers. There is his 17 years of childhood and his 17 years of working for the Lakers. He needed a middle part.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Talking of Jordan, apparently (according to Pippen), Lebron James would kick his ass...

 

[maxiep]

Talking of Jordan, apparently (according to Pippen), Lebron James would kick his ass...

I don't think there's any doubt. James is physically superior to Jordan. In Jordan's era, James is a PF. Seriously, physically the dude is a more athletic Karl Malone. However, I think MJ would get so deep into his head, James would lose his composure.

 

[Denny Crane]

I don't think there's any doubt. James is physically superior to Jordan. In Jordan's era, James is a PF. Seriously, physically the dude is a more athletic Karl Malone. However, I think MJ would get so deep into his head, James would lose his composure.

LeBron is PF for the Heat.