OT: Rubio to stay in Spain for 2 years

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wow.. good thing #2 and #3 teams didnt listen to me and call Rubio's bluff lol.
 
I hope he fails miserably.
 
If I were Rubio, I may have done the same thing. I wouldn't want to come over and put myself in a worse position. It's a business and he's making a business decision, yet people are knocking him for making the right decision. I don't get it.
 
BeerBoy said:
El Periodico is similar to ______ here in the US?
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I am not a Spanish expert, but doesn't El Periodico mean The Magazine? Are you going to trust what is found in a rag titled The Magazine.


If I read something in a paper called The Newspaper, I think I would assume it was bullshit.

That said, if Rubio doesn't play organized basketball at all for one year, he can re-enter the draft since Minni loses his rights.
 
He must not be confident in his ability. All he is doing by staying in Spain is limiting the number of years he will have to be making real big money in the NBA.
 
BrianWheeler said:
wow.. good thing #2 and #3 teams didnt listen to me and call Rubio's bluff lol.
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He may not have chosen Spain if he had been a higher selection. Higher selection means more money to use to buy out his Spanish contract.

I certainly don't blame Rubio for using what leverage he had. In every other walk of life, people are considered smart for using a superior opportunity as leverage in a negotiation. If a friend of yours said he negotiated a raise at work by pointing out to his boss that he had better opportunities somewhere else, I sincerely doubt any of you would call him a whiny bitch.

It's only in sports that athletes are expected not to have any human concerns and simply be life-size toys for the fans' amusement. ;)
 
Minstrel said:
He may not have chosen Spain if he had been a higher selection. Higher selection means more money to use to buy out his Spanish contract.

I certainly don't blame Rubio for using what leverage he had. In every other walk of life, people are considered smart for using a superior opportunity as leverage in a negotiation. If a friend of yours said he negotiated a raise at work by pointing out to his boss that he had better opportunities somewhere else, I sincerely doubt any of you would call him a whiny bitch.

It's only in sports that athletes are expected not to have any human concerns and simply be life-size toys for the fans' amusement. ;)
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could not agree more with this post. +100394958
 
Денг Гордон said:
Rubio should become a free agent if he sits out a year, not have to go back in the draft.
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He isn't old enough. Up to a certain age, you have to enter the NBA through the draft. Kobe Bryant threatened going to college if Charlotte didn't trade his rights...had he done so, even though he'd have spent a year out of pro basketball, he'd still have had to go through the draft the next season.
 
A) Good thing they drafted Flynn.

B) Too bad they didn't take someone else.
 
That Curry/Flynn backcourt sure looks good right about now for Minnesota, who's a cursed franchise no matter what. I bet Rubio would change his mind if he got sent to NY tomorrow.
 
So what's Minny's backcourt now? Flynn/Telfair? That should be fun. Of course, it's good practice for the eventual Rubio/Flynn backcourt that Kahn SWEARS has been the plan all along.

If we do sign Hedo, I would re-visit that Rudy-and-change for Rubio idea. It would solve a numbers crunch for us and give us a Hedo replacement (because Hedo will be playing the part of PG for us a lot) in 2 years as he starts to crumble. Wonder if Minny will be more inclined to do it, or if Kahn will just be even more stubborn now.

(And even if we're not going to do it, we should ask Rudy if that's what he really wants, and see if that makes him decide things aren't so bad here...)
 
Crimson the Cat said:
If I were Rubio, I may have done the same thing. I wouldn't want to come over and put myself in a worse position. It's a business and he's making a business decision, yet people are knocking him for making the right decision. I don't get it.
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I agree. He's a project player who would have rode the bench for 2-3 years anyway. Why not get paid more and play more.
 
Minstrel said:
He may not have chosen Spain if he had been a higher selection. Higher selection means more money to use to buy out his Spanish contract.

I certainly don't blame Rubio for using what leverage he had. In every other walk of life, people are considered smart for using a superior opportunity as leverage in a negotiation. If a friend of yours said he negotiated a raise at work by pointing out to his boss that he had better opportunities somewhere else, I sincerely doubt any of you would call him a whiny bitch.

It's only in sports that athletes are expected not to have any human concerns and simply be life-size toys for the fans' amusement. ;)
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We'll never know. Maybe it wasn't the money, maybe it was just Minny. In which case, playing this little "favorites" game gets old and tiresome. In every other (or most other) walks of life, people aren't making many, many millions of dollars a year to play a game. So, yes, he is a whiny bitch IF the only reason is he didn't want to go to Minny. You're playing a game for cripe's sake...
 
yakbladder said:
We'll never know. Maybe it wasn't the money, maybe it was just Minny.
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Even if that was the reason, people across the spectrum value quite highly where they work and live. "Better opportunity" factors in many things, including location.

In which case, playing this little "favorites" game gets old and tiresome. In every other (or most other) walks of life, people aren't making many, many millions of dollars a year to play a game.
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Considering he'd have to use most or all of his rookie deal to pay off his buyout, he'd be playing for far less in a place he doesn't like (assuming, for the sake of this, that he didn't want to be in Minnesota). How many people voluntarily move somewhere they don't like to work for less money? Are they all whiny bitches if they choose, instead, to work in a place they love for more money?

Also, at what salary can you no longer legitimately care where you work? The "it's just a game, for cripe's sake" argument works both ways...Rubio isn't killing anyone by choosing to remain in Spain. Why does it matter that he rejected Minnesota? It's just a game, for cripe's sake.
 
Minstrel said:
Even if that was the reason, people across the spectrum value quite highly where they work and live. "Better opportunity" factors in many things, including location.



Considering he'd have to use most or all of his rookie deal to pay off his buyout, he'd be playing for far less in a place he doesn't like (assuming, for the sake of this, that he didn't want to be in Minnesota). How many people voluntarily move somewhere they don't like to work for less money? Are they all whiny bitches if they choose, instead, to work in a place they love for more money?

Also, at what salary can you no longer legitimately care where you work? The "it's just a game, for cripe's sake" argument works both ways...Rubio isn't killing anyone by choosing to remain in Spain. Why does it matter that he rejected Minnesota? It's just a game, for cripe's sake.
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A team used a very high lottery pick on him. The future of entire franchises hinges on who they pick. For some young punk to declare for the draft, then because he dislikes the team that drafted him, to turn back around and say he's staying in Spain, that's a dickhead move. At the NBA level I don't think it is just a game. It's a business, and there's lots of money changing hands. People could get fired over this.
 
Erroneous Subterfuge said:
A team used a very high lottery pick on him. The future of entire franchises hinges on who they pick.
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Rubio's own future hinges on what professional and life decisions he makes.

For some young punk to declare for the draft, then because he dislikes the team that drafted him, to turn back around and say he's staying in Spain, that's a dickhead move.
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Why?

At the NBA level I don't think it is just a game. It's a business, and there's lots of money changing hands. People could get fired over this.
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I agree, I don't think "it's just a game." That was the argument that yakbladder used for why Rubio shouldn't do what's best for himself. I simply turned it around to show that if it IS just a game, then it's silly to excoriate him for the decision. If it's not important, it's not important for either side.

Of course, it is IS important. For both the team and player. Like in every other industry in capitalism, employment is "at will." Both the employer and the prospective employee have to agree to do business. In this case, the prospective employee didn't agree.
 
I disagree, for Rubio (and other players), it's still just a game.

Yes, they are employees, at will, etc. etc. etc. But how many other professions do people get a limited resource to choose from, only get to make one selection in turn, and then can get screwed out of that selection by the whims of an individual?

And, just so you know, "at will" is a complete falsehood in many states, countries, cities, etc.


Minstrel said:
Rubio's own future hinges on what professional and life decisions he makes.



Why?



I agree, I don't think "it's just a game." That was the argument that yakbladder used for why Rubio shouldn't do what's best for himself. I simply turned it around to show that if it IS just a game, then it's silly to excoriate him for the decision. If it's not important, it's not important for either side.

Of course, it is IS important. For both the team and player. Like in every other industry in capitalism, employment is "at will." Both the employer and the prospective employee have to agree to do business. In this case, the prospective employee didn't agree.
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yakbladder said:
I disagree, for Rubio (and other players), it's still just a game.
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No, it's their profession. And if they move, it's a significant part of their lives. If you moved today to Europe, would you consider that a significant life change?

Yes, they are employees, at will, etc. etc. etc. But how many other professions do people get a limited resource to choose from, only get to make one selection in turn, and then can get screwed out of that selection by the whims of an individual?
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How many professions disallow choosing your employer from all interested employers? Not many. It's a game to fans...to teams and players, it's a business. And it's treated that way.

And, just so you know, "at will" is a complete falsehood in many states, countries, cities, etc.
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In terms of quitting, there can be different rules about it. But no country, state or city that has a market economy forces unwilling employees to take a certain job, as far as I know.
 
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