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Should Draymond Green be suspended for Game 4?

  • YES

    Votes: 62 95.4%

  • NO

    Votes: 3 4.6%
  • Total voters
    65
Wow, some of you guys thought my cartoon was a racist statement? Making a racist statement never crossed my mind.

It was a statement that I hate anyone that intentionally tries to hurt another person, without cause.

Many good people of all colors have been hung for centuries, some for their religious belief. Bad people of all colors have been hung for centuries. It was not long ago we where hanging horse thieves in the Wild West, regardless of skin color.

If you saw a racist statement in my cartoon, then your imagination has a racist problem.

But yeah I’m guilty as charged, I am a racist, I hate all blue people.
 
oldfisherman said:
Wow, some of you guys thought my cartoon was a racist statement? Making a racist statement never crossed my mind.

It was a statement that I hate anyone that intentionally tries to hurt another person, without cause.

Many good people of all colors have been hung for centuries, some for their religious belief. Bad people of all colors have been hung for centuries. It was not long ago we where hanging horse thieves in the Wild West, regardless of skin color.

If you saw a racist statement in my cartoon, then your imagination has a racist problem.

But yeah I’m guilty as charged, I am a racist, I hate all blue people.
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I thought it was funny and didnt even think about Lynching or racism until I continued reading. After reading up to now, I still dont see it. Suspend his ass any way we can right???
 
oldfisherman said:
Wow, some of you guys thought my cartoon was a racist statement? Making a racist statement never crossed my mind.

It was a statement that I hate anyone that intentionally tries to hurt another person, without cause.

Many good people of all colors have been hung for centuries, some for their religious belief. Bad people of all colors have been hung for centuries. It was not long ago we where hanging horse thieves in the Wild West, regardless of skin color.

If you saw a racist statement in my cartoon, then your imagination has a racist problem.

But yeah I’m guilty as charged, I am a racist, I hate all blue people.
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Cool story bro... No one said you're a racist. Your post was some complete bullshit tho...
 
oldfisherman said:
What part of my post was bullshit, I meant every word, and stand behind my words.
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If you honestly believe that someone should be hung because he intentionally kicks people in the crotch, then racial insensitivity is the least of your problems.

Separately, I'm one of the first to complain about those who play the race card, but it's pretty hard not to see how that post would be interpreted in racial terms.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
If you honestly believe that someone should be hung because he intentionally kicks people in the crotch, then racial insensitivity is the least of your problems.

Separately, I'm one of the first to complain about those who play the race card, but it's pretty hard not to see how that post would be interpreted in racial terms.
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And thanks for handling my light work.
 
dviss1 said:
And thanks for handling my light work.
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I should have gone with the other picture I wanted to post. Instead of the suspended BLUE MAN by the neck, it was a picture of a real man being suspended by his private parts. But it would have been X-rated.

Never occurred to me that someone would not understand the cartoon was an exaggerated play on the word “suspend”. Guess the private part suspension would have offended some gay members too.

As long as we are talking about bullshit posts, your post changing “suspend” to “lynching” with a picture of a real person was bullshit, insensitive, and waaayy over the top.

I’ll make you a friendly offer to try to heal the feelings on all sides. I consider you a friend, and I value your opinion, even those different than mine.

I will take my picture down if you take your picture down.
 
oldfisherman said:
I should have gone with the other picture I wanted to post. Instead of the suspended BLUE MAN by the neck, it was a picture of a real man being suspended by his private parts. But it would have been X-rated.

Never occurred to me that someone would not understand the cartoon was an exaggerated play on the word “suspend”. Guess the private part suspension would have offended some gay members too.

As long as we are talking about bullshit posts, your post changing “suspend” to “lynching” with a picture of a real person was bullshit, insensitive, and waaayy over the top.

I’ll make you a friendly offer to try to heal the feelings on all sides. I consider you a friend, and I value your opinion, even those different than mine.

I will take my picture down if you take your picture down.
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Should've put up a picture of a crucafix. That way the only people you would offend are Christians, and that's allowed these days.
 
dviss1 said:
No need to put up a description of a lynching when you can show an actual lynching...

I swear, some people in this forum say some weird shit for it to be 2016.
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enter Quentin Tarantino
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Separately, I'm one of the first to complain about those who play the race card, but it's pretty hard not to see how that post would be interpreted in racial terms.
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For me it's actually hard to see how that post would be interpreted in racial terms.
I guess it's because I'm not from the US or something
 
SIeepwalker said:
For me it's actually hard to see how that post would be interpreted in racial terms.
I guess it's because I'm not from the US or something
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Too sensitive. Id like to remind this forum of how I got blasted for being too sensitive when MM posted about NAzi this or that... Cant even remember the details. Im man enough to admit I was over the top and should have lightened up.

I see the same on this. NO racism, or intent of it. Just a play on words but sensitive america is jumping all over it. Kinda like running around like little Monkeys, eh?
 
Orion Bailey said:
Too sensitive. Id like to remind this forum of how I got blasted for being too sensitive when MM posted about NAzi this or that... Cant even remember the details. Im man enough to admit I was over the top and should have lightened up.

I see the same on this. NO racism, or intent of it. Just a play on words but sensitive america is jumping all over it. Kinda like running around like little Monkeys, eh?
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I think it may also be an age thing. I'm pretty much the last guy to bend to political correctness for the sake of political correctness, but I'm also old enough to remember the civil rights movement and one of my most vivid childhood memories was my mom crying when she learned that Martin Luther King Jr. had been assassinated. I was only 6 at the time and didn't even know he was black until I saw his photos on the news the next day. Her exact words were, "I can't believe they killed him. All he was trying to do was bring people together." I still tear up when I think about it.

So, like Draymond Green, we can't judge the posters intent. I doubt if he meant anything racist by it, but my immediate mental response was an image of a lynching.

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
I think it may also be an age thing. I'm pretty much the last guy to bend to political correctness for the sake of political correctness, but I'm also old enough to remember the civil rights movement and one of my most vivid childhood memories was my mom crying when she learned that Martin Luther King Jr. had been assassinated. I was only 6 at the time and didn't even know he was black until I saw his photos on the news the next day. Her exact words were, "I can't believe they killed him. All he was trying to do was bring people together." I still tear up when I think about it.

So, like Draymond Green, we can't judge the posters intent. I doubt if he meant anything racist by it, but my immediate mental response was an image of a lynching.

BNM
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There may not have been racist intent, and I'll believe you fisherman about that. But, one can easily see the connotations behind that simple image. It has to do with culture. In America, not too long ago, Africans were lynched. There is still a connection in our minds to those events. It would be like observing a sporting event a couple of decades after World War II, seeing a Jewish player who is tired and out of energy towards the end of an Olympic event, and posting a picture of a gas chamber with the caption, "He sure looks gassed". It's a joke, but it is going to bring specific imagery to a significant portion of the people who see it. And I think Louis C.K. has proved that anything can be funny if it is carefully crafted. But I also can't blame anyone for their brain's natural connections and reactions to specific imagery.
 
How old are you guys?

The last black man lynched in the USA was in 1981, over 35 years ago.
Lynching was very rare after 1968.

I am not trying to overlook the importance of any lynching. I grew up in a time of segregated public facilities. Signs posted for whites and blacks only on water fountains and public bathrooms. How many of you remember those times? I lived them.

My point is. Black people my age have worked hard over the many decades to find ways for all of us to live together. And I have tried hard to find ways to live with them. I believe we have succeeded, at our age level.

It is the angry younger black generations that keep using the past to stir up hard feelings. Not us older generations, black or white.

We do not always need to agree, but we must find a way to live together in the future. Not live in the past.
 
I blame Green only a little. Mostly I blame the NBA for his behavior.
 
BBert said:
I blame Green only a little. Mostly I blame the NBA for his behavior.
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When you enter a grocery store isle and you see a kid yelling and screaming at a child and you see the parent either A: ignoring said child, or B: yelling back, you don't blame the child for these actions. It is the parent that is raising them and allowing them to act in such a manner, and thus the parents should be held accountable. In Green's case, both the league and him as an individual should be scrutinized with a fine tooth comb in my opinion.
 
Not a good analogy really. The team and NBA allowed it but Green is a grown man and ultimately responsible for his behavior. Small children are not.

Edit - NBA, sorry- typing on my phone!
 
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oldfisherman said:
I should have gone with the other picture I wanted to post. Instead of the suspended BLUE MAN by the neck, it was a picture of a real man being suspended by his private parts. But it would have been X-rated.

Never occurred to me that someone would not understand the cartoon was an exaggerated play on the word “suspend”. Guess the private part suspension would have offended some gay members too.

As long as we are talking about bullshit posts, your post changing “suspend” to “lynching” with a picture of a real person was bullshit, insensitive, and waaayy over the top.

I’ll make you a friendly offer to try to heal the feelings on all sides. I consider you a friend, and I value your opinion, even those different than mine.

I will take my picture down if you take your picture down.
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You sound like Draymond trying to explain his nut kick.
 
oldfisherman said:
How old are you guys?

The last black man lynched in the USA was in 1981, over 35 years ago.
Lynching was very rare after 1968.

I am not trying to overlook the importance of any lynching. I grew up in a time of segregated public facilities. Signs posted for whites and blacks only on water fountains and public bathrooms. How many of you remember those times? I lived them.

My point is. Black people my age have worked hard over the many decades to find ways for all of us to live together. And I have tried hard to find ways to live with them. I believe we have succeeded, at our age level.

It is the angry younger black generations that keep using the past to stir up hard feelings. Not us older generations, black or white.

We do not always need to agree, but we must find a way to live together in the future. Not live in the past.
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First of all my mama and most of my family participated in those MLK marches. 2nd I'm younger than you but I'm not one of the "angry younger black generations" you so mythically speak of. I'll be 40 in August. I was born in 76'. LOTS of fun trying to explain away your stupid post. If you still can't tell how foolish it was bro, we can be done talking about it now...

You JUST made a post about hanging a black man and brought attention to the fact that your picture was blue??

You're out of touch.
 
Orion Bailey said:
When you enter a grocery store isle and you see a kid yelling and screaming at a child and you see the parent either A: ignoring said child, or B: yelling back, you don't blame the child for these actions. It is the parent that is raising them and allowing them to act in such a manner, and thus the parents should be held accountable. In Green's case, both the league and him as an individual should be scrutinized with a fine tooth comb in my opinion.
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The referees are at fault for every flop. Not the players.

I handle it 400+ times a year. When a player flops:

LEAVE HIS (yeah ladies don't flop) FLOPPING ASS ON THE GROUND...

Do that once or twice and the players will adjust. Then... Be consistent.
 
Tripping should have been a foul but it show how dirty this player really the NBA should take action before he does something serously and really another player.
 
I agree with dviss. I can accept that there was no racial intention in the hanging graphic, but I sure a hell know what I'd do if someone said, as was pointed out here, that a Jewish athlete was "gassed". And how I react when everyone from Hillary Clinton to David Stern are called "Hitler". And how "bitch" and "pussy" are the standard terms for any bad (male) behavior.

A person can have no bad intent and make a booboo. Like Steve Adams did. End of story.
 
crandc said:
I agree with dviss. I can accept that there was no racial intention in the hanging graphic, but I sure a hell know what I'd do if someone said, as was pointed out here, that a Jewish athlete was "gassed". And how I react when everyone from Hillary Clinton to David Stern are called "Hitler". And how "bitch" and "pussy" are the standard terms for any bad (male) behavior.

A person can have no bad intent and make a booboo. Like Steve Adams did. End of story.
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Adams made no booboo
 
crandc said:
Not a good analogy really. The team and NBA allowed it but Green is a grown man and ultimately responsible for his behavior. Small children are not.

Edit - NBA, sorry- typing on my phone!
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I wholeheartedly disagree. Age and size does not dictate adulthood. Mentality does.. and with that said Green is obviously still a child. :)
 
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