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I can't imagine Kobe, MJ, Bird, etc. ever doing this to their coach. What a douche!
 
What has he done to deserve better?

Kobe and MJ used the media, not their shoulder, to attack coaches.

Bird just played basketball.
 
I can easily imagine Kobe or Jordan doing that.
 
LeBitch is no Jordan, Kobe, or Bird because he is a world class asshole.
 
Ok here is my caption for that picture: "That's for fucking my Mom last night!". :ohno:
 
Did LeBron turn around and apologize or did he just keep walking? It looked like he began to turn around.

If it was an accident, then no harm no foul. If it was on purpose, Riley needs to back up Spoelstra when Erik makes LeBron run suicides until he pukes.

The problem with Miami isn't the coach.
 
Yay! Another thread in which I can trash the Heat! Look, they say the three guys need TIME to play together. I thought the whole point was that they DID play together on Team USA and were ready to roll!! 70+ win season, 8 championships, greatest threesome ever, right? But oh wait, in 2006, these three douches failed to win gold together. They only won gold in 08 because Kobe joined in. It ain't gonna get better for these guys. No one in the league is scared of them. It's comical.
 
Spoelstra was placed in a no win situation. He's a bright young coach who hasn't built any cred yet in the league and he has been given 3 prima donas and the full expectation of 70 wins and a title. He was DOA when James rolled into town. The Heat gave him rope to hang himself and now that's happened.
 
Spoelstra as Nates replacement here? Would Spoelstra like to come home?
 
Spoelstra tries hard to get them to work hard and play as a team. No wonder why they hate him.
 
Spoelstra go his start dissecting game film. Caleb Canales is following in his footsteps. :eek:
 
What makes Spoelstra qualified to be the next coach of the Blazers? Much less the Heat. He has little experience, and doesn't seem to have a clear plan.

I've seen how he handles rotations and it is somewhat random too, without nuance. He has no special traits, he's at best a neutral coach. I'd say a poor coach because he doesn't understand advanced figures, combined with the lack of offensive game planning.
 
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He has ties with the Blazers, iirc.

yep he is from Portland and his dad was either a player or an assistant here at some point I think

edit... after some quick research he was born in Illinois, grew up in Portland, went to Jesuit, and UP. And his dad was an executive with the Blazers.
 
What makes Spoelstra qualified to be the next coach of the Blazers? Much less the Heat. He has little experience, and doesn't seem to have a clear plan.

I've seen how he handles rotations and it is somewhat random too, without nuance. He has no special traits, he's at best a neutral coach. I'd say a poor coach because he doesn't understand advanced figures, combined with the lack of offensive game planning.

he seemed to do alright when it was one star he was coaching, and had a decent Offense going then, of course I wasnt watching extra closely. But I guess Just to many of us, Nate's done what he can with this organization and its time to move on.
 
He runs isos as much as Nate does. I don't think he'd help our situation much. Lateral move if we replace Nate with him.
 
He runs isos as much as Nate does. I don't think he'd help our situation much. Lateral move if we replace Nate with him.

He runs isos because he has the 2 best one on one players in the league.
 
Woj brought the hammer down on 'Bron today too. If even half of these things are true, wow. What a douche.

King James wants Spoelstra to bow to him
Adrian Wojnarowski

By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports 11 hours, 47 minutes ago

Erik Spoelstra reached out to Mike Brown over the summer and searched for insight into both basketball’s blessing and curse: Coaching the two-time MVP LeBron James(notes).

Over and over, Brown uprooted his offensive system to appease James only to have it never work. Brown praised James’ character publicly when he would’ve preferred to have been truthful about James’ narcissism. James defied Brown in public and private, disregarded his play calls to freelance his offense, and belittled him without consequence within the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Meticulous in his preparation, Spoelstra spoke with several past coaches, and league sources said a clear and unequivocal picture appeared on how to proceed: End the cycle of enabling with James and hold him accountable.

And surprise, surprise: LeBron James has responded with a test of his own organizational strength, pushing to see how far the Heat will bend to his will. This season, James is hearing a word seldom uttered to him in Cleveland: “No.” And it keeps coming out of the coach’s mouth, keeps getting between the King and what he wants.

Can I stay overnight to party in New Orleans after a preseason game?

Can I play the clown in practice?

Can I get out of playing point guard?

No. No. No.

Wait, what?

No, LeBron.

No.

Even within a month of the season’s sideways 9-8 start, the NBA witnessed a predictable play out of the James-Maverick Carter playbook on Monday morning. They planted a story and exposed themselves again as jokers of the highest order. They care so little about anyone but themselves. Still, no one’s surprised that they’d stoop so low, so fast into this supposed historic 73-victory season and NBA Finals sweep of the Los Angeles Lakers. They want Spoelstra – and Pat Riley – to bend to them, to bow to the King the way everyone has before them.

Nevertheless, here’s what was surprising – even troubling – when the Heat talked on Monday before a victory over the Washington Wizards: In the blink of an eye, Dwyane Wade(notes) signed up with Team LeBron to scapegoat and sell out Spoelstra.

“I’m not going to say he’s ‘my guy,’ but he’s my coach,” Wade said.

Wade’s always been loyal, and that’s why it was so surprising to witness him bail this fast on Spoelstra, whom Wade knows too well. Spoelstra is a good NBA coach. Everyone knows that Wade isn’t a star who plays hard all the time, knows that he takes plays off on defense. They know that Spoelstra did a terrific job coaching 90 victories out of that flawed Miami roster the previous two seasons.

As much as ever, the Heat need Wade to influence James. Only now, it’s clear James is influencing Wade. With Udonis Haslem(notes) out for the regular season, the locker room misses one of its vital voices. Now, Wade is struggling on the floor and James is the devil on his shoulder, whispering that he doesn’t need to be accountable, that there’s an easy fall guy for everyone: Spoelstra.

Those who know Wade well, who care about him, were disappointed Monday. When Spoelstra needed Wade to stand up for him, Wade never shrunk so small. Spoelstra was Wade’s guy, but Wade’s finding it much easier to align himself with James’ coward act than do the right thing. This was something that you’d expect out of Chris Bosh(notes), who’s never been a leader, never a winner, but Wade?

“He knows better than this,” one of Wade’s former assistant coaches said. “I’m not saying he hasn’t changed some, but he knows right from wrong. And this is wrong.”

The fundamental problem for Spoelstra isn’t that James doesn’t respect coaches – he doesn’t respect people. Give LeBron this, though: He’s learned to live one way with the television light on, and another with it off. He treats everyone like a servant, because that’s what the system taught him as a teenage prodigy. To James, the coach isn’t there to mold him into the team dynamic. He’s there to serve him.

Wade was one of the Team USA players who’d watch incredulously as James would throw a bowl of fries back at a renowned chef and bark, “They’re cold!” Or throw his sweaty practice jersey across the court and command a team administrator to go pick it up. Everyone wants James to grow out of it, but he’s never showed much of an inclination for self-examination and improvement. And he’s never surrounded himself with people who’d push him to do so.

What’s more, the timing of this leak was no accident, because James and his business manager had to like the idea of someone else going on trial this week. When the public wanted to talk about James’ return to Cleveland, about the callous way with which he left, about the disjointed start in Miami, they thrust everything onto Spoelstra.

Part of them believed they could deflect Hell Week at home in Ohio, and part of them probably believed they could indeed align the public with them against Spoelstra.

After all, the coach had it coming to him. Of this, LeBron James was sure. Spoelstra had the audacity to do something that Mike Brown never had ownership’s backing to do in Cleveland: To push James, call him out, coach him.

The funniest part had to be how they leaked the idea that Erik Spoelstra was panicking now, behaving like he feared for his job. Truth be told, he’s been behaving in the opposite way. Spoelstra isn’t running from LeBron, but running at him.

Someone’s scared here, but it isn’t the coach.
 
David Stern is going to have to step in. LeBron James is on the verge of becoming Randy Moss--one of the league's most talented players who everyone hates.

As for me, I've never liked LeBron, so these stories merely serve as confirmation to my biases.
 
Woj brought the hammer down on 'Bron today too. If even half of these things are true, wow. What a douche.

King James wants Spoelstra to bow to him
Adrian Wojnarowski

By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports 11 hours, 47 minutes ago

Erik Spoelstra reached out to Mike Brown over the summer and searched for insight into both basketball’s blessing and curse: Coaching the two-time MVP LeBron James(notes).

Over and over, Brown uprooted his offensive system to appease James only to have it never work. Brown praised James’ character publicly when he would’ve preferred to have been truthful about James’ narcissism. James defied Brown in public and private, disregarded his play calls to freelance his offense, and belittled him without consequence within the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Meticulous in his preparation, Spoelstra spoke with several past coaches, and league sources said a clear and unequivocal picture appeared on how to proceed: End the cycle of enabling with James and hold him accountable.

And surprise, surprise: LeBron James has responded with a test of his own organizational strength, pushing to see how far the Heat will bend to his will. This season, James is hearing a word seldom uttered to him in Cleveland: “No.” And it keeps coming out of the coach’s mouth, keeps getting between the King and what he wants.

Can I stay overnight to party in New Orleans after a preseason game?

Can I play the clown in practice?

Can I get out of playing point guard?

No. No. No.

Wait, what?

No, LeBron.

No.

Even within a month of the season’s sideways 9-8 start, the NBA witnessed a predictable play out of the James-Maverick Carter playbook on Monday morning. They planted a story and exposed themselves again as jokers of the highest order. They care so little about anyone but themselves. Still, no one’s surprised that they’d stoop so low, so fast into this supposed historic 73-victory season and NBA Finals sweep of the Los Angeles Lakers. They want Spoelstra – and Pat Riley – to bend to them, to bow to the King the way everyone has before them.

Nevertheless, here’s what was surprising – even troubling – when the Heat talked on Monday before a victory over the Washington Wizards: In the blink of an eye, Dwyane Wade(notes) signed up with Team LeBron to scapegoat and sell out Spoelstra.

“I’m not going to say he’s ‘my guy,’ but he’s my coach,” Wade said.

Wade’s always been loyal, and that’s why it was so surprising to witness him bail this fast on Spoelstra, whom Wade knows too well. Spoelstra is a good NBA coach. Everyone knows that Wade isn’t a star who plays hard all the time, knows that he takes plays off on defense. They know that Spoelstra did a terrific job coaching 90 victories out of that flawed Miami roster the previous two seasons.

As much as ever, the Heat need Wade to influence James. Only now, it’s clear James is influencing Wade. With Udonis Haslem(notes) out for the regular season, the locker room misses one of its vital voices. Now, Wade is struggling on the floor and James is the devil on his shoulder, whispering that he doesn’t need to be accountable, that there’s an easy fall guy for everyone: Spoelstra.

Those who know Wade well, who care about him, were disappointed Monday. When Spoelstra needed Wade to stand up for him, Wade never shrunk so small. Spoelstra was Wade’s guy, but Wade’s finding it much easier to align himself with James’ coward act than do the right thing. This was something that you’d expect out of Chris Bosh(notes), who’s never been a leader, never a winner, but Wade?

“He knows better than this,” one of Wade’s former assistant coaches said. “I’m not saying he hasn’t changed some, but he knows right from wrong. And this is wrong.”

The fundamental problem for Spoelstra isn’t that James doesn’t respect coaches – he doesn’t respect people. Give LeBron this, though: He’s learned to live one way with the television light on, and another with it off. He treats everyone like a servant, because that’s what the system taught him as a teenage prodigy. To James, the coach isn’t there to mold him into the team dynamic. He’s there to serve him.

Wade was one of the Team USA players who’d watch incredulously as James would throw a bowl of fries back at a renowned chef and bark, “They’re cold!” Or throw his sweaty practice jersey across the court and command a team administrator to go pick it up. Everyone wants James to grow out of it, but he’s never showed much of an inclination for self-examination and improvement. And he’s never surrounded himself with people who’d push him to do so.

What’s more, the timing of this leak was no accident, because James and his business manager had to like the idea of someone else going on trial this week. When the public wanted to talk about James’ return to Cleveland, about the callous way with which he left, about the disjointed start in Miami, they thrust everything onto Spoelstra.

Part of them believed they could deflect Hell Week at home in Ohio, and part of them probably believed they could indeed align the public with them against Spoelstra.

After all, the coach had it coming to him. Of this, LeBron James was sure. Spoelstra had the audacity to do something that Mike Brown never had ownership’s backing to do in Cleveland: To push James, call him out, coach him.

The funniest part had to be how they leaked the idea that Erik Spoelstra was panicking now, behaving like he feared for his job. Truth be told, he’s been behaving in the opposite way. Spoelstra isn’t running from LeBron, but running at him.

Someone’s scared here, but it isn’t the coach.

Woj on his little crusade again. Enabling didn't bring down the Cavs, it was their lack of superior second options to rely on against elite defenses.

I'll ask again, how the hell does Woj know Riley isn't a better coach? He's a nut.
 
I actually think Spoelstra is a good coach in a horrible situation. He did good last year with Wade and a bunch of scrubs. I'm sure he wouldn't mind coming here either, I'm sure he has family here and he went to Jesuit so he probably has friends here.
 
I actually think Spoelstra is a good coach in a horrible situation. He did good last year with Wade and a bunch of scrubs. I'm sure he wouldn't mind coming here either, I'm sure he has family here and he went to Jesuit so he probably has friends here.

Trading coaches would be a good situation for both Miami and Portland: we get the motion offense we want, they get the ISO offense they want. We get a younger coach wiling to work on a team in flux; they get an established coach they have already worked with on Team USA.
 
Maybe Mike Brown was a better coach than people gave him credit for.
 
Trading coaches would be a good situation for both Miami and Portland: we get the motion offense we want, they get the ISO offense they want. We get a younger coach wiling to work on a team in flux; they get an established coach they have already worked with on Team USA.

I think we need fresh ideas. Not sure if Spoelstra's the answer, or not. I'm partial to Budenholzer in SA. He's been Pop's right hand man for years now and he's supposed to be a great X's and O's guy.
 
I think we need fresh ideas. Not sure if Spoelstra's the answer, or not. I'm partial to Budenholzer in SA. He's been Pop's right hand man for years now and he's supposed to be a great X's and O's guy.

He'd be great, I'm sure, but is he going to be available, or even want to go to a team in flux? So yeah, SA will be in flux very soon too, but if I were him, I'd have to think that Pop retires when Duncan does, making him the heir apparent in SA. Why leave that (regardless of where else you could go)?

Spoesltra will be available just as soon ad Pat Riley hires himself as head coach, which will be any old time. And if we're not doing much better by then, Nate might be on a seat hot enough to burn him.
 

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