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No one makes him an offer? What happens to him? Does he go back to the Bucks for the chump change they offered him for the qualifying offer? Wasn't it like 1 mil?
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LOL! Would you do that? I think I would.
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I would drive him to the airport. Pay for the ticket. And help him unpack im Milwuakee. And I'm not a Bayless hater by any means.
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That's out of context....
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True. However, reports since them indicate that the Bucks are not going to match a MLE, making the restricted part or the tying up money (in the end of August) no longer factors to why teams haven't made him an offer.
BalancedMan
That's out of context....
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You guys do realize that he could have offers on the table but refuse to sign them because they aren't what he would consider an ideal situation. For example...would he sign somewhere to play as a backup? He might say screw it and play the year out so that he can make much more than the MLE in the unrestricted FA market. He's still limited to a maximum salary of the MLE, which is the average salary amount in the league.
So even though the Bucks say they won't match (and really? Did you guys forget about how Charlie Bell was burned when the Bucks said they wouldn't match the Heat's offer sheet and then did anyways?), it's possible Sessions didn't like any of the offers on the table. Although I'd imagine if NY did tender the full MLE, he would have gone for it to play under D'Antoni.
So even though the Bucks say they won't match (and really? Did you guys forget about how Charlie Bell was burned when the Bucks said they wouldn't match the Heat's offer sheet and then did anyways?), it's possible Sessions didn't like any of the offers on the table. Although I'd imagine if NY did tender the full MLE, he would have gone for it to play under D'Antoni.
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No way in hell I trade Rudy straight up for Sessions. Especially now that we have Andre for atleast two seasons. If that was the plan, we should have made that decsion before signing Andre.
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Those things could all be true.
To me, it's just as likely that he has very little value in this league because GM's realized his game is very flawed.
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Sessions would be a nice understudy to Miller, but it would really depend on what it took to get him.
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Bayless?
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I'm honestly not completely sure what to think of Jerryd Bayless at this point. I know he has talent, but will he ever put it together? Hard to say, and I really feel this team needs a distributor to run things. Andre Miller will prove this.
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so you would send Bayless for Sessions too then right?
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Well, it's a tough call. As much as I love Rudy, I'm still not sold that he will have a place on this team long term. Don't you think Rudy will want to start eventually?
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There is no way you trade the best 2nd string SG in the league for a 3rd string PG. I don't care what your depth chart looks like. Rudy for Sessions and the Bucks unprotected 1st still probably wouldn't be enough.
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yes and no, I honestly think he will be fine as a supersub, I eventually see a 3 guard rotation with Roy, Rudy, and Bayless (if he develops) or Sessions would be nice. that would leave plenty of minutes for Rudy IMO, and he would be in, in a lot of 4th quarters. That I honestly think would be more important for Rudy.
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I'm not necessarily saying trade Rudy for Sessions, but at this point I'm still concerned about Rudy's future here.
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That's fair. I agree with BW that Rudy can be an effective part of a 3 guard rotation that includes Roy.
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Let's look at the facts. He is an undersized two. The last thing this team needs is another two and one that is undersized. If you focus on that fact and realistically think about how high his ceiling is as a two. Taking everything into consideration. Im not sure he will be good enough to fill a third string role for most teams. If he was ever going to make a name for himself it would have been as a point.
And as a point, he is a mess. I say move him. But not move him for a point. Move him with Outlaw in a package deal to upgrade the backup four.
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Outlaw and Bayless for a backup 4 is shooting a little low, don't you think?
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That's out of context....
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The whole Bayless issue is difficult. Jerryd is very, VERY talented. There's a reason that he was considered a top 2-4 pick (yes the Heat worked Beasily and Bayless out...pretty much exclusively). But on draft night he slid. I think that if he were in Westbrook's shoes, he probably would have done similarly well. And proved more in college.
However, Sessions, in his first two years, has posted above average PER numbers, and appears he's on the upswing. His Per-36 numbers this last year were 16.2 pts and 7.4 assists. Not too shabby. It's really a toss up. If Rudy and Bayless can develop a bit more ball handling, then I can see a 3-guard rotation with them and Roy (which I think is ideal...like Drexler/Porter/Strickland back in the day) working out very well. Sessions isn't a long ball shooter.
In any case, I think that with Andre we are set. Does anyone realize how good he is...I'll quote the mighty Wikipedia:
Not only is he super-durable, but also one of the best pass-first PG's EVER.
EVER.
And think about the talent that he's been surrounded with. Only makes his stats more impressive. I've liked Andre forever. Despite his lack of outside shooting and age, he'll help us a ton next year.
However, Sessions, in his first two years, has posted above average PER numbers, and appears he's on the upswing. His Per-36 numbers this last year were 16.2 pts and 7.4 assists. Not too shabby. It's really a toss up. If Rudy and Bayless can develop a bit more ball handling, then I can see a 3-guard rotation with them and Roy (which I think is ideal...like Drexler/Porter/Strickland back in the day) working out very well. Sessions isn't a long ball shooter.
In any case, I think that with Andre we are set. Does anyone realize how good he is...I'll quote the mighty Wikipedia:
Not only is he super-durable, but also one of the best pass-first PG's EVER.
EVER.
And think about the talent that he's been surrounded with. Only makes his stats more impressive. I've liked Andre forever. Despite his lack of outside shooting and age, he'll help us a ton next year.
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That's out of context....
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I'm sorry...I'll be civil but that is a fucking joke. What is a decent backup four? Turiaf? Chris Anderson? Glen Davis? I'm confused. You're talking about trading a very highly regarded lottery pick...who hasn't had much of an opportunity due to our depth (Bayless), and a good role player...one of best reserves in the league (Outlaw) for a guy who might play 16 minutes per night?
I don't think Oden and Pryzbilla will work together. But LMA will occupy 36+ minutes per night, and Outlaw can man the backup 4 against most players in this league. Think about the backup PF. What ones can't Outlaw "defend". And furthermore, what ones can really defend him?
I think the roster is fine with the PF issue, especially given the depth at center and our prospects at PF. SF is fine between Batum/Webster/Outlaw. And PG is clearly good. So we're set for the run. I'd be surprised if we don't make at least the second round...more likely further...this year.
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I know many of you are down on Bayless but I wouldn't trade Bayless for Sessions. I just think Bayless is the better player and will have a better NBA career if given the chance. There is a reason Sessions hasn't gotten many teams looking to sign him. They could sign him really cheap and the only teams that want him are the Clipppers and Knicks. They want to get him for almost nothing.
Now some of you want to trade Rudy for Sessions. Is that a joke? We could trade Rudy to a lot of teams for something better then Sessions lol.
Now some of you want to trade Rudy for Sessions. Is that a joke? We could trade Rudy to a lot of teams for something better then Sessions lol.
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What kind of ceiling do you feel Jerryd has there balanced? How good do you think he will be if he is never, ever able to play the point? Ill give you a hint. Think Antonio Daniels.There is a reason why that highly regarded lottery pick dropped almost 10 full spots. He was suppossed to be a top five pick and ended up being a top 12 pick.
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If he doesn't sign an offer sheet with any other team, then he can either accept the qualifying offer or another offer from Milwaukee. He could also go overseas to play, but doesn't sound like that's on the radar screen right now.
Reports are that NY's offer, although officially a two year offer, is essentially for one year with a very small guaranteed amount for 2010-11. The Clips reportedly have a similar offer on the table. I think at this point, Sessions is holding out for somebody to make a longer offer so that he doesn't have to deal with restricted free agency again next summer if he stays with the Bucks. I don't think that kind of offer is going to come, so it'll be interesting to see where he actually ends up.
3 months ago, I would have bet that Sessions would sign an offer sheet or a new contract before Villanueva. I would have lost that bet.
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That's out of context....
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Bayless's situation is remarkably similar to what happened to Gilbert Arenas. Both were PG's who played out of position at SG in college (@ Arizona), slid further than they were supposed to go, and didn't play much at all their rookie year.
Now, a healthy Gilbert Arenas is a top player in this league. But I think that is the "ceiling". Similar skill sets, body types, histories, etc.
More realistically, I could see Bayless becoming a Mo Williams Version 2.0.
