OT: Will we ever see the Western Conference realign?

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

The divisions just don't make much sense geographically. I was thinking earlier what the Western divisions should look like and I came up with this, does it make sense?

Pacific: Blazers, Kings, Warriors, Lakers, and Clippers.

Mountain: Jazz, Suns, Nuggets, Timberwolves, and Thunder.

Southwest: Spurs, Mavericks, Rockets, Grizzlies, and Pelicans.

 

[Boob-No-More]

The divisions just don't make much sense geographically. I was thinking earlier what the Western divisions should look like and I came up with this, does it make sense?

Pacific: Blazers, Kings, Warriors, Lakers, and Clippers.

Mountain: Jazz, Suns, Nuggets, Timberwolves, and Thunder.

Southwest: Spurs, Mavericks, Rockets, Grizzlies, and Pelicans.

Yes, the current alignment is ridiculous. The so-called NW Division is spread out over three time zones. There isn't a single other team in our division that's in the same time zone as us. Shit, Boston, Toronto NY and Brooklyn are all closer to Minnesota than we are, both geographically and in terms of time zones. Can you imagine how ridiculous it would be if Minnesota was in the Atlantic Division (or a fictitious NE Division)?

BNM

 

[Strenuus]

That would be the perfect one!

 

[Draco]

So basically just switch us with the Suns? That makes a ton of sense to me. I'm not sure if the NBA has a marketing reason for keeping Phoenix with the Cali teams.

 

[Boob-No-More]

So basically just switch us with the Suns? That makes a ton of sense to me. I'm not sure if the NBA has a marketing reason for keeping Phoenix with the Cali teams.

At the time of the last realignment, OKC was still in Seattle, so the current alignment made more sense (but still wasn't ideal). And before that, when the Grizzlies were in Vancouver, the entire Pacific Division was in the Pacific Time Zone. Letting teams move from the West Coast to Oklahoma and Tennessee fucked everything up. Since when is Tennessee a western state?

BNM

 

[jlprk]

Not till a new team in the West, like Las Vegas, causes it.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I think the next time we see realignment is when the NBA expands to Europe

 

[Rhal]

When they add a team to seattle we will see a big realignment.

 

[magnifier661]

When they add a team to seattle we will see a big realignment.

I'm hoping OKC would move towards the Southwest. They are so far out of our area, it's ridiculous to think they are in our same division.

 

[Rhal]

I'm hoping OKC would move towards the Southwest. They are so far out of our area, it's ridiculous to think they are in our same division.

They should be an east coast team as well as the wolves. They don't really make sense as west coast teams.

 

[julius]

If the NBA played a consistent weighted schedule, it would matter who is in what division.

 

[B-Roy]

It's stupid, but it doesn't affect scheduling THAT much. I don't really care if they mess with it or not.

 

[magnifier661]

They should be an east coast team as well as the wolves. They don't really make sense as west coast teams.

OKC is right in line with the Texas teams. Minny and Nola are way out though.

What the NBA should do is allow Vegas and Seattle to have teams and move Minny to the East.

NorthWest Division:
Portland, Seattle, Utah, Sactown and Golden State
Southwest:
Lakers, Clippers, Vegas, Phoenix and Denver
Midwest:
Dallas, OKC, SAS, Houston and Nola

Central:
Minny, Chicago, Indiana, Detroit, and Cleveland

Northeast:
New York, Brooklyn, Boston, Toronto, Milwaukee, Philly

Southeast:
Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Charlotte, D.C.

 

[Boob-No-More]

OKC is right in line with the Texas teams. Minny and Nola are way out though.

What the NBA should do is allow Vegas and Seattle to have teams and move Minny to the East.

NorthWest Division:
Portland, Seattle, Utah, Sactown and Golden State
Southwest:
Lakers, Clippers, Vegas, Phoenix and Denver
Midwest:
Dallas, OKC, SAS, Houston and Nola

Central:
Minny, Chicago, Indiana, Detroit, and Cleveland

Northeast:
New York, Brooklyn, Boston, Toronto, Milwaukee, Philly

Southeast:
Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Charlotte, D.C.

Milwaukee doesn't belong in the NE, they belong in Central with Chicago.

BTW, back in the 1970s, Milwaukee and Chicago were both in the Western Conference. Even Indiana was in Western Conference when the Pacers made the jump from the ABA to the NBA. But, back then, there weren't any NBA teams in Texas, Denver, Utah, only 2 teams in California, etc.

The NBA has a long history of realignment as the league expanded, the ABA teams merged, teams moved, etc. I think it's time for the NBA to start seriously looking at realignment again.

BNM

 

[PtldPlatypus]

OKC is right in line with the Texas teams. Minny and Nola are way out though.

What the NBA should do is allow Vegas and Seattle to have teams and move Minny to the East.

NorthWest Division:
Portland, Seattle, Utah, Sactown and Golden State
Southwest:
Lakers, Clippers, Vegas, Phoenix and Denver
Midwest:
Dallas, OKC, SAS, Houston and Nola

Central:
Minny, Chicago, Indiana, Detroit, and Cleveland

Northeast:
New York, Brooklyn, Boston, Toronto, Milwaukee, Philly

Southeast:
Miami, Orlando, Atlanta, Charlotte, D.C.

Memphis might be unhappy with being left out of the equation.

Also, with the talent pool the way it is, you want to expand the league further?

 

[magnifier661]

Memphis might be unhappy with being left out of the equation.

Also, with the talent pool the way it is, you want to expand the league further?

Oops, well they could be moved to the Southwest then. My mistake.

As far as the talent pool… I think it will get much stronger, especially since two more teams will give you 36 more players. I think certain players aren't given the opportunity to play. Also, teams would receive a little more "cap space" with the addition of a couple more teams.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Oops, well they could be moved to the Southwest then. My mistake.

As far as the talent pool… I think it will get much stronger, especially since two more teams will give you 36 more players. I think certain players aren't given the opportunity to play. Also, teams would receive a little more "cap space" with the addition of a couple more teams.

Well, if you expand to 32 teams, wouldn't you want to go to four four-team divisions in each conference?

 

[Draco]

I think it's time for the NBA to start seriously looking at realignment again.

Is any team except the Blazers in the wrong division? I doubt the NBA is concerned in the slightest about our tiny market having regional matchups a close 800 miles away instead of 1500.

 

[magnifier661]

Well, if you expand to 32 teams, wouldn't you want to go to four four-team divisions in each conference?

I… HATE…. YOU….

Okay Mr. Smarty Pants. Give me your alignment then!


Here's mine:

Western Conference:
Portland, OKC, Denver, Utah, Golden State, Seattle, Vegas, Phoenix, Clipper, Lakers, SacTown, SAS, Houston, Dallas, Nola, Memphis.

NW: Portland, Seattle, Golden State, SacTown
Pacific: Lakers, Clippers, Vegas, Phoenix
Mountain: Denver, SAS, Dallas, Utah
SW: Houston, Memphis, NOLA, OKC

Eastern Conference:
Minny, Philly, Toronto, Boston, New York, Brooklyn, Indiana, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Detroit, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta, Charlotte, Orlando, Washington

MW: Minny, Detroit, Milwaukee, Indiana
Central: Toronto, Cleveland, Chicago, Philly (even though it really isn't central)
Atlantic: Boston, New York, Brooklyn, Washington
SE: Charlotte, Atlanta, Miami, Orlando

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I… HATE…. YOU….

Okay Mr. Smarty Pants. Give me your alignment then!

I just wanted to make you work.

My Re-alignment would eliminate Milwaukee and Charlotte, and move the Raptors to Seattle. Then I'd return to four seven-team divisions.

Western Conference
Pacific Division: GSW, LAC, LAL, PHX, POR, SAC, SEA
Southwest Division: DAL, DEN, HOU, NOP, OKC, SAS, UTA

Eastern Conference
Atlantic Division: ATL, BOS, BRO, NYK, MIA, ORL, WAS
Midwest Division: CHI, CLE, DET, IND, MEM, MIN, PHI

 

[Pinwheel1]

The scenario that pisses me off most lately is when Portland goes on an east coast swing, then comes back with only one day rest to play at home, THEN travels down to the Bay Area to play GS on a back to back. What is the point of that? They have zero percent chance of winning that last game.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I… HATE…. YOU….

Okay Mr. Smarty Pants. Give me your alignment then!


Here's mine:

Western Conference:
Portland, OKC, Denver, Utah, Golden State, Seattle, Vegas, Phoenix, Clipper, Lakers, SacTown, SAS, Houston, Dallas, Nola, Memphis.

NW: Portland, Seattle, Golden State, SacTown
Pacific: Lakers, Clippers, Vegas, Phoenix
Mountain: Denver, SAS, Dallas, Utah
SW: Houston, Memphis, NOLA, OKC

Eastern Conference:
Minny, Philly, Toronto, Boston, New York, Brooklyn, Indiana, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Detroit, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta, Charlotte, Orlando, Washington

MW: Minny, Detroit, Milwaukee, Indiana
Central: Toronto, Cleveland, Chicago, Philly (even though it really isn't central)
Atlantic: Boston, New York, Brooklyn, Washington
SE: Charlotte, Atlanta, Miami, Orlando

Swap CHI and IND. CHI is closer MIN, MIL and the same distance to DET as IND.

Actually, Detroit is closer to Cleveland. Than either CHI or IND. So, you may need to shuffle some more things around.

BNM

 

[julius]

I… HATE…. YOU….

Okay Mr. Smarty Pants. Give me your alignment then!


Here's mine:

Western Conference:
Portland, OKC, Denver, Utah, Golden State, Seattle, Vegas, Phoenix, Clipper, Lakers, SacTown, SAS, Houston, Dallas, Nola, Memphis.

NW: Portland, Seattle, Golden State, SacTown
Pacific: Lakers, Clippers, Vegas, Phoenix
Mountain: Denver, SAS, Dallas, Utah
SW: Houston, Memphis, NOLA, OKC

Eastern Conference:
Minny, Philly, Toronto, Boston, New York, Brooklyn, Indiana, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Detroit, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta, Charlotte, Orlando, Washington

MW: Minny, Detroit, Milwaukee, Indiana
Central: Toronto, Cleveland, Chicago, Philly (even though it really isn't central)
Atlantic: Boston, New York, Brooklyn, Washington
SE: Charlotte, Atlanta, Miami, Orlando

You're forgetting that WDC is further away from New York is than Philadelphia is.

So it makes no sense for Philadelphia not to be in the same division as Boston, New York and Brooklyn.

 

[KingSpeed]

You guys remember when Orlando was in the Western Conference? First year in league.

 

[Wolvesguy14]

The divisions just don't make much sense geographically. I was thinking earlier what the Western divisions should look like and I came up with this, does it make sense?

Pacific: Blazers, Kings, Warriors, Lakers, and Clippers.

Mountain: Jazz, Suns, Nuggets, Timberwolves, and Thunder.

Southwest: Spurs, Mavericks, Rockets, Grizzlies, and Pelicans.

I think I'd also try to move the Grizzles. Swap them with Milwaukee.

Put Washington in the Atlantic, Grizzles in Southeast, and then Philly in central.

Then put Suns in Southwest and Milwaukee in Mountain or re-name it to whatever.

 

[Boob-No-More]

You guys remember when Orlando was in the Western Conference? First year in league.

Yeah, that was bizarre. They were in the Midwest Division, maybe because so many people from the Midwest move to Florida when they retire.

BNM

 

[julius]

You guys remember when Orlando was in the Western Conference? First year in league.

I totally Forgot that.

I do remember how Sacramento was in the midwest for a while too (due to being in KC for a while). The next year, when Miami and Charlotte came into the league, Miami was in the Midwest. The next year Miami was in the Eastern Conference and Charlotte was in the Midwest division.

Then in 90-91, Orlando was in the Midwest.

Did Portland play those teams the normal # of games for a western conference team?

*yes they did*

 

[barfo]

None of you got it right, so here is the correct realignment:

Atlantic: NY, Brooklyn, Philly, Boston, Washington
Central: Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Toronto, Indiana
Southeast: Orlando, Miami, Atlanta, Memphis, Charlotte

Southwest: San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, OKC, New Orleans
Flyover: Milwaukee, Minnesota, Utah, Phoenix, Denver
Pacific: LA,LA, Sac, GS, Portland

barfo

 

[THE HCP]

Man, I'd love to be back in the Pacific. What do you guys think the reason is for keeping it so out of wack geographically?

 

[julius]

Man, I'd love to be back in the Pacific. What do you guys think the reason is for keeping it so out of wack geographically?

it's not a big deal to the NBA what happens out here?

Plus, it doesn't drastically change travel times.