OT: Wow, Tyreke & Co. Stage 33-Point Comeback In 1 1/2 Quarters!

[jlprk]

Holy Schnikeys! Ime Udoka scored 15 in the 4th quarter, too! WOW!

Indeed, it was one of the most amazing comebacks in NBA history...it was the biggest rally since Utah overcame a 36-point deficit to beat Denver on Nov. 27, 1996...After Sacramento finished the third with a 19-5 run to make it 88-69, IME UDOKA SCORED 15 OF THE KING'S FIRST 22 POINTS IN THE FOURTH QUARTER to cut it to 95-91 with 2:28 remaining.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=291221004
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Compare Sergio's blue bar to the graph of the score below it. He enters the 3rd quarter when his team is at its lowest point in the graph, gets 5 assists and 5 points (that's 16 points--1 was a 3-pointer assist) and when he comes out, his team has outscored the Bulls by 18 points. That's 16 of the 18 points.

http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20091221&game=SACCHI
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His +/- per minute was 3rd best on his team tonight. Udoka was 5th.

http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=1&season=22009&split=20&team=Kings
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His effectiveness per minute was best for both teams (1.295 = 25.9 / 20). 2nd best was Udoka (1.19 = 27.3 / 23).

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyleaders?date=20091221&gameId=291221004

 

[Draco]

Thanks a lot Vulcans.

 

[BenDavis503]

Evans is bad ass. I like him a lot.

 

[hasoos]

Anybody watch the Cleveland vs Phoenix game? If there was everf a prime example of why a running team won't win in the playoffs, that game was it.

 

[Kaydow]

Anybody watch the Cleveland vs Phoenix game? If there was everf a prime example of why a running team won't win in the playoffs, that game was it.

What about the "Showtime" Lakers? Or are you saying in our current era?

Phoenix was close in their hay day, but they don't have the same talent they did 3 or 4 years ago. They went to the WCF a couple of times. Their best shot was 2007 IMO, and they didn't even make the WCF. 2nd round series vs SA (recently ranked as 2nd best playoff series of the decade) that year was incredible, and the Suns got JOBBED big time. The Spurs manhandled Nash, and the suspension of Stoudamire & Diaw cost them the series. Had they won this series, they win it all. Utah was lucky to get to the WCF, and Cleveland was one dimensional coming from the JV conference.

 

[MARIS61]

I said "BRoy from 06."

AKA. I'd take the rookie Evans over the rookie Roy.

I'd take the rookie Roy over the current Roy.

 

[BlazerBeav]

I'd take the rookie Roy over the current Roy.

Yeah, if only we didn't have to settle for 28 points on 11-14 shooting. He's really regressing.

 

[MARIS61]

Kings biggest comeback ever was keyed by 3 former Blazers (Sergio, Ime, Brockman), Donte Green and Beno Udrih.

 

[hasoos]

What about the "Showtime" Lakers? Or are you saying in our current era?

Phoenix was close in their hay day, but they don't have the same talent they did 3 or 4 years ago. They went to the WCF a couple of times. Their best shot was 2007 IMO, and they didn't even make the WCF. 2nd round series vs SA (recently ranked as 2nd best playoff series of the decade) that year was incredible, and the Suns got JOBBED big time. The Spurs manhandled Nash, and the suspension of Stoudamire & Diaw cost them the series. Had they won this series, they win it all. Utah was lucky to get to the WCF, and Cleveland was one dimensional coming from the JV conference.

Even the showtime Lakers got shut down by the slow down Pistons and Chicago Bulls before their time was done. You seem to have forgot that.

 

[Kaydow]

Even the showtime Lakers got shut down by the slow down Pistons and Chicago Bulls before their time was done. You seem to have forgot that.

Well you can't win EVERY year. They won 5 rings and were w/o a doubt the team of the 80's.

 

[BlazerBeav]

The thing that makes the comeback less impressive is that in order to come from behind by 33, they had to be down by 33. To the Bulls. Excuse me for not wanting to switch rosters with Sacramento.

 

[hasoos]

Well you can't win EVERY year. They won 5 rings and were w/o a doubt the team of the 80's.

The slow down game was designed for the sole purpose of dealing with those teams. No running team has won a champoinship since then. Any high end team with the ability to play a slower pace can control the pace and take a running team out of their game. There are too many things they can do to control the pace of the game, and take the comfort level out of the running teams hands. Combine that with the fact that in the playoffs, more fouls are called which stops play and hinders running teams. The whole fact that you had to go back to a team that ran the court 20 years ago shows this to be true.

I also believe in order to have a good running team it depends on personnel. Just like the Triangle offense is a straight line without a player named Jordan or Kobe on it, the running team requires a player like Magic Johnson or Nash to run the show. Maybe a Baron Davis if you surround them with enough talent.

 

[MARIS61]

The Portland Trail Blazers acquired the draft rights to forward Jeff Pendergraph (31st overall pick) from the Sacramento Kings in exchange for guard Sergio Rodriguez, the draft rights to forward Jon Brockman (38th overall pick) and cash considerations, it was announced today by General Manager Kevin Pritchard.

Quite possibly the worst trade in Blazers history.

http://www.nba.com/kings/news/kings_biggest_comeback_team_history.html

 

[illmatic99]

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[KingSpeed]

I think it'll shake down like this:

1) LA Lakers
2) Denver
3) Phoenix
4) Dallas
5) Houston
6) Blazers
7) San Antonio
8) Utah

You honestly believe the Spurs will finish 7th? If history has taught us anything, it's that the Spurs turn it on in February. I can't imagine the Spurs will finish lower than 4th. Probably 3rd.

 

[Nikolokolus]

The Portland Trail Blazers acquired the draft rights to forward Jeff Pendergraph (31st overall pick) from the Sacramento Kings in exchange for guard Sergio Rodriguez, the draft rights to forward Jon Brockman (38th overall pick) and cash considerations, it was announced today by General Manager Kevin Pritchard.

Quite possibly the worst trade in Blazers history.

http://www.nba.com/kings/news/kings_biggest_comeback_team_history.html

Nah, not really. The game thread at Sac-town royalty kind of caught my eye. Apparently Sergio wasn't exactly the difference maker in this game that you make him out to be.

Funny thing is, Westphal listened, but he brought in JT for Donte instead to cover Deng, while Brockman got Noah. And JT shut Deng down, and naturally Brockman devoured Noah in one bite and spit him out, then won the key jump ball.

Naturally Beno came in at the same time for Sergio, which was probably also good because Sergio was starting to implode.

"The basis for winning an NBA title is having a superstar in his prime. Not an all-star, or a bunch of all-stars, but a superstar."
by coolcatreportdotcom on Dec 21, 2009 8:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yes
At that point the Bulls were turning it over but we couldn’t buy a basket. We needed offense so JT could’ve made up for Brockman’s hustle plus provide offense. I’m glad PW stuck with Brocktimus though. He was a BIG part of that comeback in the end

Godfather of the "nice ass" movement.... the future begins now...
by edm7 on Dec 21, 2009 9:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2009/12/21/1210936/post-game-thread-kings-102-bulls-98#comments

 

[hasoos]

Nah, not really. The game thread at Sac-town royalty kind of caught my eye. Apparently Sergio wasn't exactly the difference maker in this game that you make him out to be.



http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2009/12/21/1210936/post-game-thread-kings-102-bulls-98#comments

Sergio only has about 4 good games to his name this year, despite what some people will say on this board, and those 4 games, skew his numbers (which are usually about 2 points and an assist or two) in the rest of his games. It's one of those grass is greener if you only selectivly choose certain game results.

 

[DaRizzle]

I can only imagine if the Kings had done this to the Blazers -- suicide watch in full effect.

I would have paid money to come here if that had happened

 

[Nikolokolus]

I would have paid money to come here if that had happened

I would have too MIXUM's head probably would have exploded.

 

[DaRizzle]

I would have too MIXUM's head probably would have exploded.

shit...a lot more "level headed" people than Mixum would have their head explode too. You cant get much more of an epic collapse...unless it was in a game 7 in the WCF or something

 

[jlprk]

Naturally Beno came in at the same time for Sergio, which was probably also good because Sergio was starting to implode.

Sergio played 13:31 in the 3rd and 4th quarters, leading the Kings out of their 35 point deficit, and was tired. He usually doesn't play that long. He committed no fouls until his last 22 seconds, when he had 3 fouls. Westphal (too late is better than never) quickly pulled him out of the game. The Bulls got 2 points on FTs from the 3 fouls. Udrih went in and they won the game. So yes, Sergio imploded in his last 22 seconds out of fatigue.

But until he went in, they were going in the wrong direction from 35 down, and they immediately reversed direction. Of course, he wasn't the only one who made it all happen.

 

[andalusian]

a lot more "level headed" people than Mixum would have their head explode too.

I think I have learned that more level headed people are called homers. That's what I get from Mixum's thread. It's good to expand one's vocabulary.

Oh, and BTW, I think that as bad as WCF epic collapses go, they are not really as bad as the finals collapses are...

 

[MikeDC]

Well, Deng had 26 on 11-18 shooting with 5 boards. Clearly, he didn't make the hurting stop at the end there, but no one on Chicago did...that doesn't mean, for example, Rose is no good.

I still think Portland could find some room for Deng in their lineup, especially if Chicago didn't value him much.

Yeah, he's good. And for a team with strong leadership like the Blazers have, he'd probably be very good. But damn... he really played some crummy ball in the second half. You don't always hear it about Deng, but he sometimes deserves the selfish rap more than guys that have left, like Gordon, or Salmons, who gets it a lot. He very often doesn't seem to work well with Rose, and its really frustrating.

 

[DaRizzle]

Oh, and BTW, I think that as bad as WCF epic collapses go, they are not really as bad as the finals collapses are...

well played...but you know it still hurt

When that lakers finals collapse was happening I tried everything to mindfuck it into not happening (as if the world revolved around me). I was thinking of every anti-jinxing thought I could while psychotically laughing with occasionally bursting into turrets like cursing episodes....I dont remember anything specific about that game at all, Ive blocked it all out...serious

 

[Nikolokolus]

Sergio played 13:31 in the 3rd and 4th quarters, leading the Kings out of their 35 point deficit, and was tired. He usually doesn't play that long. He committed no fouls until his last 22 seconds, when he had 3 fouls. Westphal (too late is better than never) quickly pulled him out of the game. The Bulls got 2 points on FTs from the 3 fouls. Udrih went in and they won the game. So yes, Sergio imploded in his last 22 seconds out of fatigue.

But until he went in, they were going in the wrong direction from 35 down, and they immediately reversed direction. Of course, he wasn't the only one who made it all happen.

Ahahahahahaaaa. Thanks I needed that.

 

[MARIS61]

Bayless only has about 4 good games to his name this year, despite what some people will say on this board, and those 4 games, skew his numbers (which are usually about 2 points and an assist or two) in the rest of his games. It's one of those grass is greener if you only selectivly choose certain game results.

See how worthless your clearly biased and inaccurate dismissal of a player's successes really is?

If a person had didn't watch the Kings and Blazers, they might actually believe you. Having watched both teams, and both players, I know otherwise.

Here are his real stats, if anyone is interested:

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/sergio_rodriguez/career_stats.html

Strong improvement so far in most catagories.

As for the comeback game, which I watched, Sergio was the game-changer. He stopped the bleeding and turned the tide so smoothly and quickly the Bulls were stunned into passivity.

Truly a masterpiece of team direction and everything this team is missing at the point.

 

[andalusian]

If a person had didn't watch the Kings and Blazers, they might actually believe you. Having watched both teams, and both players, I know otherwise.

Sergio, in 308 minutes played this year has a winscore of 0.7, Bayless, in 290 has a winscore of 1.2 - with all due respect to Sergio, who is playing a lot better in Sacramento than he did in Portland (not a surprise, he is not a half-court player, we all knew that, still kudos to him) - Bayless was, and still is a much better prospect, Especially playing next to Brandon Roy.

Good to see Sergio, however, making a run at possibly sticking in the league after this year. While he did not fit in this team and was just taking minutes from Bayless who is a much better fit next to Roy - it is nice to see him doing well. I always thought he was a nice guy with very exciting game, when things are moving fast.