Our 7''

[AquaXI]

The weakest overpaid link. Anyways can a Hall of Famer/Legend/Superstar fix him? I'm just wondering if there is a last hope for him, because whoever on here said he doesn't belong is looking smart at this time. I really don't want to fault the effort as I'm sure he is giving his all yet it ain't good enough. Is embarrassment a new motivation? As in 19 year olds nipping at his heels. I'm hoping someone like a Lambeer can toughen him up. Let's think out of the box.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Boy, what in tarnation are you talking about?

 

[AquaXI]

Yeah Meyers.

 

[Sweetriverphil]

Our 7"? Think outside the box? Nipping? How many tabs do you have open right now?

 

[RipCityRyan]

7" huh? Thats above average lol

 

[RipCityRyan]

The weakest overpaid link. Anyways can a Hall of Famer/Legend/Superstar fix him? I'm just wondering if there is a last hope for him, because whoever on here said he doesn't belong is looking smart at this time. I really don't want to fault the effort as I'm sure he is giving his all yet it ain't good enough. Is embarrassment a new motivation? As in 19 year olds nipping at his heels. I'm hoping someone like a Lambeer can toughen him up. Let's think out of the box.

I really dont think there is hope. I wish there was but its a lost cause. Waste of money and a roster spot

 

[SIeepwalker]

Boy, what in tarnation are you talking about?

Obviously Greg Oden

 

[Voodoo]

Obviously Greg Oden

He said 7" not 17" so no not Oden.

 

[theprunetang]

Is the 7 incher plump and girthy (a classic Tuna Can Tommy), or is it a regular Bic Pen Benny?
And how are the veins? We need the details.

 

[BlayZa]

reminds me of Spinal Tap

 

[Jade Falcon]

Meyers problem is his shoulder. After all those injuries to it, he is terrified of hurting it again, as it will likely be career ending.

In that sense, I can't blame him for being scared.

BUT.....this is the N B Goddamned A. Professional Basketball at the highest level. The very nature of the game involves using your arms and hands to make plays.

If he can't do that, then he's no place on a basketball court. At least not one at the NBA level.

 

[THE HCP]

Jesus Lord, what in the hell has happened to this place?

 

[Jade Falcon]

Jesus Lord, what in the hell has happened to this place?

Titties and beer. I blame Sly.

 

[e_blazer]

Jesus Lord, what in the hell has happened to this place?

I used my "WTF to English Translator" and I believe that the OP is asking whether Meyers' career can be resurrected if we brought in a big man coach like Laimbeer, or if the embarrassment of being out-played by the 19 year-old Collins might be enough to do the job. I do believe that both Meyers and Collins are taller than 7 inches though, so I'm giving him a pass for a typo there.

 

[THE HCP]

Thank you for the translation.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Jesus Lord, what in the hell has happened to this place?

Mrs. HCP is on vacation, and her replacement lacks both her stamina and enthusiasm.

 

[Blazer Freak]

Meyers problem is his shoulder. After all those injuries to it, he is terrified of hurting it again, as it will likely be career ending.

In that sense, I can't blame him for being scared.

BUT.....this is the N B Goddamned A. Professional Basketball at the highest level. The very nature of the game involves using your arms and hands to make plays.

If he can't do that, then he's no place on a basketball court. At least not one at the NBA level.

The shoulder was his issue last year. He could not touch weights the entire off-season or during the beginning of the year as he recovered and he got noticeably smaller up top. The mental side has ALWAYS held Meyers back, but last year was even worse due to him being held back physically. I expect him to come back this season and play to the level of his $10M contract which will look much more tradeable by the trade deadline/offseason. He's packed on some noticeable size if you look at his IG stories every day, he is eating like a cow and working out non-stop.

I have some connections to him and his wife, and they honestly don't expect to be here long-term after how its gone the last year or two. I think once he plays back up to a 10/5 with 3 point ability level he will be easy to move.

 

[AquaXI]

Sorry guys, some tequila did me in so I don't know why it posted before I finished the title. " our 7'1" disappointment"!

 

[Sweetriverphil]

Meyers needs to dye his hair black and turn heel. Dunk on small children to gain confidence. Encourage the fans to boo him. Drain three pointers and steal James Harden's stir the pot celebration.

 

[Chris Craig]

Getting Lambier as a big man coach or being inspired by the play of Swanigan is all at the behest of Meyers himself. Meyers is stuck in his own head. He has allowed the fear of failure to blanket him. Its mind over matter and in Meyers case matter has consumed him. The only way for Meyers to succeed is to get on that court and play without reservation. He needs to forget about his pretty hair getting messed up, or his teeth getting knocked out, or the discomfort of physical contact. Meyers needs to stop being a pussy.
Maybe its as easy as taping a bag of lucky charms to the bottom of his truck and telling him its heroin and that you've called the cops like in Talledega Nights. He just needs to find his speed. Problem for Meyers is maybe he just wasn't good to begin with. Maybe he needs a new team and a fresh start. Who the hell knows.
I'll tell you this I grew up playing street ball on the local court. I'm not a big guy, but I've gone up against guys more than twice my size and defended them successfully. Its all in the minds eye. There is a toughness required that Meyers just might not have. I hope it is hiding there just under the surface waiting to be revealed whether he stays here or not. He's a good guy, I'm just not sure if he's willing to get into the car with the cougar, im not sure if hes cut out to be a basketball player.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I expect him to come back this season and play to the level of his $10M contract which will look much more tradeable by the trade deadline/offseason.

I think once he plays back up to a 10/5 with 3 point ability level he will be easy to move.

I would be thrilled to see this happen, but I'll believe it when I see it. However, if he is able to do that, why would we want to move him?

 

[Blazer Freak]

I would be thrilled to see this happen, but I'll believe it when I see it. However, if he is able to do that, why would we want to move him?

Because a $10M/year contract is honestly not that high of a level in today's NBA landscape. Look at Biyombo/Mahinmi making $17M/year. If Meyers can get back to 8-10ppg/4-5rpg and 40%+ 3p% he is going to be fairly easy to trade.

The reasoning for us is simple. Both sides of this need a fresh start, and with our draft and other players on the roster he would be an expensive luxury. While money and the luxury tax does not really matter to PA, having a player like Meyers making $10M when we could dump him for some future assets would ease some of the financial burden on the team and allow us a little more flexibility. I think by mid-season both Swanigan and Collins will have no problem swallowing up the 15-20mpg Meyers would be taking up.

 

[dviss1]

I expect him to come back this season and play to the level of his $10M contract which will look much more tradeable by the trade deadline/offseason.

From your lips to God's ears. I think you're the only one who expects this.

 

[Chris Craig]

From your lips to God's ears. I think you're the only one who expects this.

I cautiously hope for it. I don't expect it.

 

[dviss1]

I cautiously hope for it. I don't expect it.

I expect mediocrity.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I expect mediocrity.

I'd gladly settle for that at this point.

In his 3rd season, Meyers had a PER = 14.8 (15.0 being considered an average NBA player). He shot the ball extremely well - had a 50/40/90 season at .510 FG%, .420 3FG% and .938 FT% and was a slightly above average rebounder. In the two seasons since then, which coincided with two things: the firing of Kim Hughes as our big man coach and the coaches deciding Meyers was no longer a 5, but a stretch 4, his performance had plummeted.

Just a few of his numbers to show how much his production has declined:

2014-15:
PER = 14.8
TS% = .631
TRB% = 15.8

2015-16:
PER = 11.3
TS% = .561
TRB% = 12.8

2016-17:
PER = 8.9
TS% = .507
TRB% = 10.8

I'd be absolutely thrilled with a return to mediocrity. If Meyers was putting up similar numbers to 2014-15 he'd actually be worth his $10 million a year contract. Perhaps even be considered a bargain in today's NBA.

But, I'm not holding my breath. At this point anything we get out of Meyers, on the court, on in a trade, will be a pleasant surprise. I'm more interested in seeing what Collins and Swanigan can do and if Noah Vonleh can show the 20 games he played beside Nurk weren't a fluke.

BNM

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I'd gladly settle for that at this point.

In his 3rd season, Meyers had a PER = 14.8 (15.0 being considered an average NBA player).

Minor correction--15 is an average NBA starter.

 

[Stevenson]

Inches or feet? Ask Spinal Tap - it makes a difference!

 

[Boob-No-More]

Minor correction--15 is an average NBA starter.

Nope. Hollinger defined PER = 15.00 as the league average for ALL players.

Reference guide
Hollinger has set up PER so that the league average, every season, is 15.00, which produces sort of a handy reference guide:

All-time great season 35.0+
Runaway MVP candidate 30.0-35.0
Strong MVP candidate 27.5-30.0
Weak MVP candidate 25.0-27.5
Definite All-Star 22.5-25.0
Borderline All-Star 20.0-22.5
Second offensive option 18.0-20.0
Third offensive option 16.5-18.0
Slightly above-average player 15.0-16.5
Rotation player 13.0-15.0
Non-rotation player 11.0-13.0
Fringe roster player 9.0-11.0
Player who won't stick in the league 0-9.0

BNM

 

[Reep]

I like Meyers generally, but don't think he will be able grow this year because there won't be any minutes for him. I see Vonleh, Collins, Swanigan and Davis all ahead of him on the chart.

I hope some team will want him as is because Stotts will be hard pressed to find any minutes for him after preseason.