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illmatic99

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What kind of floors and ceilings do you see with our current prospects on the roster? Trying to keep this as open for interpretation as possible. Consider their playing styles, or impact, whatever you wish, but maybe project this down a few years from now when these guys are done growing. This could be cool to trace back to in a year or so once we get to see these guys more, and perhaps even understand actually what we have on the roster. Not considering Dame, Gerald, and Ed as they are most likely not going to deviate too much from their current levels.

So formatting: Player X: (Best case scenario) || (worst case scenario)

CJ McCollum: (Ginobili) || (Jamal Crawford)
Meyers Leonard: (Okur) || (Bargnani)
Noah Vonleh: (Sheed) || (Brandon Bass)
Moe Harkless: (Ariza) || (out of NBA)
Mason Plumlee: (Mozgov) || (Rolo)
Al-Farouq Aminu: (Batum) || (Harrison Barnes.. current)
Allen Crabbe: (Jimmy Butler) || (out of NBA)
Pat Connaughton: (Wes Matthews) || (out of NBA)
Tim Frazier: (Greivis Vasquez) || (out of NBA)
Luis Montero: (Chase Budinger) || (out of NBA)

All in all, if we strike gold with even a couple of these guys, we should be set. Realistically, most of these guys will probably end up in the middle somewhere. Allen Crabbe is a bit hard to project for me, but he's definitely intriguing.
 
Rolo and Crawford are worst case scenarios? That's a pretty danged high floor...
 
What kind of floors and ceilings do you see with our current prospects on the roster? Trying to keep this as open for interpretation as possible. Consider their playing styles, or impact, whatever you wish, but maybe project this down a few years from now when these guys are done growing. This could be cool to trace back to in a year or so once we get to see these guys more, and perhaps even understand actually what we have on the roster. Not considering Dame, Gerald, and Ed as they are most likely not going to deviate too much from their current levels.

So formatting: Player X: (Best case scenario) || (worst case scenario)

CJ McCollum: (Ginobili) || (Jamal Crawford)
Meyers Leonard: (Okur) || (Bargnani)
Noah Vonleh: (Sheed) || (Brandon Bass)
Moe Harkless: (Ariza) || (out of NBA)
Mason Plumlee: (Mozgov) || (Rolo)
Al-Farouq Aminu: (Batum) || (Harrison Barnes.. current)
Allen Crabbe: (Jimmy Butler) || (out of NBA)
Pat Connaughton: (Wes Matthews) || (out of NBA)
Tim Frazier: (Greivis Vasquez) || (out of NBA)
Luis Montero: (Chase Budinger) || (out of NBA)

All in all, if we strike gold with even a couple of these guys, we should be set. Realistically, most of these guys will probably end up in the middle somewhere. Allen Crabbe is a bit hard to project for me, but he's definitely intriguing.

Nice..

Okay, my over/under comparisons:

CJ: Roy/Bad Stoudamire
Meyers: Chambers/ Bad Vlade Devacs (SP?)
Noah: Barkley(or Malone)/ Old, bad Kemp
Harkless: Ariza/ out of the NBA
Plumlee: Ben Wallace/ Vanilla Gorilla
Aminu: Batum/ bad Teshon Prince
Crabbe: Teshon Prince/ bad Batum
Pat: Ainge/out of the NBA
Frazier: Webb/ out of the NBA
Montero: Pre injury Grant Hill/ out of the NBA
 
CJ McCollum: (10-11 Eric Gordon) || (Marcus Thornton)
Meyers Leonard: (Troy Murphy + Defense) || (Spencer Hawes)
Noah Vonleh: (Bosh) || (Kevin Seraphin)
Moe Harkless: (Ariza) || (James Johnson)
Mason Plumlee: (DeAndre Jordan) || (Dieng)
Al-Farouq Aminu: (Draymond Green minus passing) || (Nic Batum minus passing)
Allen Crabbe: (Danny Green) || (out of NBA)
Pat Connaughton: (Wes Matthews) || (out of NBA)
Tim Frazier: (Kendall Marshall) || (out of NBA)
Luis Montero: (Jamal Crawford) || (out of NBA)
 
Its truth though. If we have successfully put together a culture of hard work I think they could go full remember the titans. And if they dont get it or decide to take plays off then we will be bottom 5 in league. I dont see a middle ground with dame at the helm. Either they follow his lead or get left in the dust.

Im also not the best judge for predicting blazers doing poorly. I was convinced przybilla was leading us to a ring every year until the day we were mathematically eliminated from playoffs. And even then I proposed what happens if the L*kers team plane is shot out the sky by our lord Jesus.
 
Strictly speaking, the "worst case" would always be something like "spontaneously explodes taking entire stadium with him" but I get what you mean.

CJ McCollum: Title team Mavs Jason Terry ||OJ Mayo
Meyers Leonard: More athletic Bill Laimbeer || Bargnani seems about right
Noah Vonleh: Boozer || Loser
Moe Harkless: C0rey Brewer || Corey Feldman
Mason Plumlee: Rolo || Mozgov
Al-Farouq Aminu: Jerome Kersey || Thomas Robinson
Allen Crabbe: Reggie Lewis || Francisco Garcia
Pat Connaughton: Mario Elie || (out of NBA)
Tim Frazier: Poor man's Ty Lawson, without the booze || (out of NBA)
Luis Montero: Will Barton || (out of NBA)
 
Good thing I wasn't drinking a beer after reading some of these expectations.
 
Its truth though. If we have successfully put together a culture of hard work I think they could go full remember the titans. And if they dont get it or decide to take plays off then we will be bottom 5 in league. I dont see a middle ground with dame at the helm. Either they follow his lead or get left in the dust.

Im also not the best judge for predicting blazers doing poorly. I was convinced przybilla was leading us to a ring every year until the day we were mathematically eliminated from playoffs. And even then I proposed what happens if the L*kers team plane is shot out the sky by our lord Jesus.

Fair enough. :), Even if they go full on Titan, I think there will just be a few too many mistakes due to lack of experience and cohesion. I think this is a lottery team that will "will, run and play D" that keeps them in the middle of the pack and if we see a couple guys explode, we make the playoffs. There are too many good teams to go anywhere in the playoffs though, but the experience would be invaluable to this youth I think. The confidence going into the offseason... whoa... lookout...
 
Interesting that you think Rolo is better than Moz. Considering the relatively little discrepancy between the two, I'd say Plums is pretty close to both.

Isn't Moz way younger? more unknowns and upside? I think the potential is way higher than Rolo.
 
Interesting that you think Rolo is better than Moz. Considering the relatively little discrepancy between the two, I'd say Plums is pretty close to both.
That was sort of a joke: I like them both. But RoLo is nobody's worst case scenario. Most Knicks writers are very happy with his acquisition for a fuck of a lot more than Plumlee will get. RoLo is a no-stats all-star, whereas I'm not convinced Plumlee has shown close to that. If you're being given away for a low first-rounder, that's a bit of a red flag. Probably Plumlee's worst case is One of the Other Plumlees.
 
CJ McCollum: Jason Terry / James Hollywood Robinson
Meyers Leonard: Raef LaFrentz / Matt Bonner
Noah Vonleh: Jermaine O'Neal / Gary Trent
Moe Harkless: NO FUCKING IDEA
Mason Plumlee: Joel Pryzbilla / Chris Dudley
Al-Farouq Aminu: Bruce Bowen / Rueben Patterson
Allen Crabbe: Tracy Murray / Luke Babbitt
Pat Connaughton: Danny Ainge / Jerry Sitching
Tim Frazier: Danny Young / Nolan Smith
Luis Montero: Leandro Barbosa / Qyntel Woods
 
CJ McCollum: Jason Terry / James Hollywood Robinson
Meyers Leonard: Raef LaFrentz / Matt Bonner
Noah Vonleh: Jermaine O'Neal / Gary Trent
Moe Harkless: NO FUCKING IDEA
Mason Plumlee: Joel Pryzbilla / Chris Dudley
Al-Farouq Aminu: Bruce Bowen / Rueben Patterson
Allen Crabbe: Tracy Murray / Luke Babbitt
Pat Connaughton: Danny Ainge / Jerry Sitching
Tim Frazier: Danny Young / Nolan Smith
Luis Montero: Leandro Barbosa / Qyntel Woods
Damn El. That is one of the worst Blazer teams I have ever seen on potential. Just terrible!
 
Wouldn't the worst case for every player be "out of the NBA"?

That would be worst case, but I think this is what we think their worst case would be. Some of these guys worst case I think still keeps them in the NBA, just not as valuable as their best case.
 
cj mccollum- pre-injury B-Roy/lou williams
meyers legend- in his prime arvydas sabonis with better shooting skills/spencer hawes
noah vonleh-kevin garnett/2nd season meyers leonard
moe harkless-corey brewer/out of nba
mason plumlee-deandre jordan with shooting/joel pryzbilla
al aminu- draymond green/ nic batum without passing
allen crabbe-jimmy butler/rudy fernandez
pat connaughton-pre-injury wes matthew/ matthew dellavedova
tim frazier-steve nash/nolan smith
luis montero-pre-injury shaun livingston/bench cheerleader
if they all hit their best potential then we are looking at an empire dynasty
 
cj mccollum- pre-injury B-Roy/lou williams
meyers legend- in his prime arvydas sabonis with better shooting skills/spencer hawes
noah vonleh-kevin garnett/2nd season meyers leonard
moe harkless-corey brewer/out of nba
mason plumlee-deandre jordan with shooting/joel pryzbilla
al aminu- draymond green/ nic batum without passing
allen crabbe-jimmy butler/rudy fernandez
pat connaughton-pre-injury wes matthew/ matthew dellavedova
tim frazier-steve nash/nolan smith
luis montero-pre-injury shaun livingston/bench cheerleader
if they all hit their best potential then we are looking at an empire dynasty
The force is strong with this one.
 
cj mccollum- Michael Jordan/Kobe Bryant
meyers legend- George Mikan/Shaq
noah vonleh- Tim Duncan/LaMarcus Aldridge
moe harkless-Scottie Pippen/Scottie Pippen
mason plumlee- Dikembe Mutombo/Alonzo Mourning
al aminu- Scottie Pippen / Bruce Bowen
allen crabbe- Michael Jordan / Kobe Bryant
pat connaughton- Danny Ainge / Jerry Sitching
tim frazier- John Stockton / Isiah Thomas
luis montero- Magic Johnson / Walt Williams

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HAPPY SLAPNUTS
 
Ceilings:

CJ McCollum:
Ben Gordon (Chicago version)
Meyers Leonard: Mehmet Okur
Noah Vonleh: Antonio McDyess
Moe Harkless: Stacey Augmon
Mason Plumlee:
Athletic Joel Przybilla
Al-Farouq Aminu: I'm blanking on this one. In the 2015 playoffs he was a Draymond clone.
Allen Crabbe: CJ Miles
Pat Connaughton: Matt Harpring
Tim Frazier: Sebastian Telfair
Luis Montero: Tony Wroten
Daniel Diez: Kyle Korver
 
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