Outlaw worth Gregs comfort???

[BenDavis503x]

I can't help but think that all this talk about Travis for Conley is just to make Greg feel more comfortable and more happy. Not in the same sense like during the draft we were all like "wouldn't it be cool to get Mike and Greg?" but in the sense that "Greg is having a really hard time, maybe we should try to bring in his boy to help him transition to the NBA."

Is Outlaw worth that? What happens to Sergio or Bayless? Ok, move Bayless to SG... then what do we do with Rudy? Can he play 3 more (I think he can, but)? Do we trade Blake too?

This is a sticky situation!!!

 

[Sheldon Shape]

This is a sticky situation!!!

No need to share your intimate self gratifying moments with the rest of the board.

On the subject of Greg Oden and Travis for Conley deal... It's great value for Outlaw. If I was a young team moving forward I would certainly take Conley over Outlaw but we are very deep with mediocre point guards. I think Bayless will do his damage from the 1 spot, Conley would be a very promising backup.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Travis isn't a very good basketball player. We wouldn't really be losing very much. Rudy can easily take those shots, and more than likely take better ones than fade away 18 footers. Batum can take some minutes and defend 100 times better than Travis

 

[Ed O]

Outlaw is in a position to become the third-string small forward in December. Conley is a 20 year-old PG who was a high lottery pick a couple of drafts ago.

This deal would make some sense even if Oden weren't around, and I think the "he'd make Oden more comfortable" thing is pretty ridiculous.

Did the Blazers care about "making Oden comfortable" when they threw McRoberts into the Pacers deal?

Ed O.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

When Webster is healthy we have 3 SF's that deserve playing time. But there isn't enough to go around. One should be traded. Of those, Outlaw probably has the least upside (debatable point).

So why not him?

 

[Crimson the Cat]

I've gone back and forth on this. Currently the flavor-of-the-minute for me is that this isn't a good deal.

It just doesn't help us this year, and while I know that the end goal is a championship, I only see Portland making a move that both helps us now and in seasons to come.

Vote No on Proposition Conley!

 

[BenDavis503x]

No need to share your intimate self gratifying moments with the rest of the board.

Wow... I am bursting in laughter. That joke was priceless. How did you come up with such a witty retort? Remarkable.

 

[BenDavis503x]

Outlaw is in a position to become the third-string small forward in December. Conley is a 20 year-old PG who was a high lottery pick a couple of drafts ago.

This deal would make some sense even if Oden weren't around, and I think the "he'd make Oden more comfortable" thing is pretty ridiculous.

Did the Blazers care about "making Oden comfortable" when they threw McRoberts into the Pacers deal?

Ed O.

Your a sword fighter.

 

[hasoos]

So the logic is (Let's make sure I have this straight):

1. You assume Greg Oden is uncomfortable.
2. Bringing in a friend will make him comfortable.
3. His friend isn't comfortable in the NBA either.
4. Combining two uncomfortable players will somehow make them both comfortable?

 

[1 Eye Jack]

If they bring in Conley for Travis it sure as hell isn't because of his relationship with Greg it's because they believe he's the PG of the future for us.

 

[BenDavis503x]

So the logic is (Let's make sure I have this straight):

1. You assume Greg Oden is uncomfortable.
2. Bringing in a friend will make him comfortable.
3. His friend isn't comfortable in the NBA either.
4. Combining two uncomfortable players will somehow make them both comfortable?

How do you know that Conley is uncomfortable in the NBA? Without a link, I just do not think I can trust you. I need links please.

 

[BenDavis503x]

If they bring in Conley for Travis it sure as hell isn't because of his relationship with Greg it's because they believe he's the PG of the future for us.

You watch Bukake.

 

[hasoos]

How do you know that Conley is uncomfortable in the NBA? Without a link, I just do not think I can trust you. I need links please.

Not everything has a link. I am going off the fact he is not producing, and not excelling in Memphis. That, is a fact, which you can find the links for yourself by going and looking over some box scores, and read about how Connely is not finishing games, he is being yanked.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

You watch Bukake.

lol ok you got me on that one

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I can see this as a good move for our second unit.

Bayless complements Roy well. Jerryd is actually the perfect guard to have next to Roy as he can defend and could score in bunches.

Conley is a pure PG and would complement Rudy very well too.

PG: Bayless SG: Roy

PG: Conley SG: Rudy

Very balanced and both backcourts (polar opposites) complement each other to a T.

 

[hhhoggg]

Another unproven, mediocre PG to make another player happy... Wow first Sergio now Conley, that's no way to run a team.

 

[Ed O]

Another unproven, mediocre PG to make another player happy... Wow first Sergio now Conley, that's no way to run a team.

Your position is that we got Sergio a year before we drafted Rudy just to make him happy?

Ed O.

 

[hhhoggg]

Nope, but why is he still here?

 

[hhhoggg]

Oh and while I'm at it, isn't Outlaw and Roy pretty close?

 

[Ed O]

Nope, but why is he still here?

What do you mean? Why wouldn't he be here?

He's a 22 year-old guy who's on his rookie contract. He's currently good enough to be in the rotation, and he's young enough to still have a lot of room to grow.

Ed O.

 

[hhhoggg]

Not the way I see it, he's still here to make Rudy feel all comfy and cozy. The same reason people want Conley to make his way here. Sergio after taking steps back last year probably got a gift being on this roster, he's turnover prone, he can't defend and IMO Petri should have taken his spot. Of course this is just one person's oppinion.

 

[Ed O]

Not the way I see it, he's still here to make Rudy feel all comfy and cozy. The same reason people want Conley to make his way here. Sergio after taking steps back last year probably got a gift being on this roster, he's turnover prone, he can't defend and IMO Petri should have taken his spot. Of course this is just one person's oppinion.

I don't think that many people on this board feel that Conley should be acquired to make Oden feel comfortable. In fact, I think that almost no one believes that. I would be in favor of acquiring him because he's a 20 year-old pure PG prospect that was a high lottery pick a year ago and still has a world of potential.

I also don't think that it makes any sense that Sergio would be playing at all if he was JUST on the team to make Rudy feel comfortable.

Ed O.

 

[RoyToy]

Believe it or not but Sergio is better than Kop. Don't let summer league fool you. On the other hand I don't think Sergio will be any better than Blake is.

If Sergio was kept here to comfort Rudy a little bit that's fine. Unlike Oden, Rudy is coming here from a different country and speaks broken english. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Blazers made some deal with Rudy that they would keep Sergio if Rudy would come over this year. Besides, Sergio is cheap anyways.

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As far as Conley goes, I'm not sure if he would make the Blazers that much better, and I'd definitely rather have Bayless getting minutes. If trading for Conley means less minutes for Bayless, I don't like the trade.

 

[hhhoggg]

Ok, so now we trade a player to pick up more potential?? Lateral moves are not what I'd like to see from KP, we need a PG that's more than potential. Conley would be another maybe next year he'll get better player.

As far as Sergio is concened, the guy should never get minutes before Bayless and that soon should change. I'll state again this is my oppinion and I stand by it.

 

[hhhoggg]

Believe it or not but Sergio is better than Kop. Don't let summer league fool you. On the other hand I don't think Sergio will be any better than Blake is.

If Sergio was kept here to comfort Rudy a little bit that's fine. Unlike Oden, Rudy is coming here from a different country and speaks broken english. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Blazers made some deal with Rudy that they would keep Sergio if Rudy would come over this year. Besides, Sergio is cheap anyways.

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As far as Conley goes, I'm not sure if he would make the Blazers that much better, and I'd definitely rather have Bayless getting minutes. If trading for Conley means less minutes for Bayless, I don't like the trade.

I can certainly agree with most of this.

 

[MARIS61]

Forget Conley.

BRING BACK HA!

 

[hhhoggg]

Forget Conley.

BRING BACK HA!

LOL whatever happened to Seung-Jin

 

[PapaG]

Great idea. Trade a veteran with a defined role for yet another inexperienced PG.

I'm not against trading Outlaw, but would it be ridiculous to expect him to be a part of a Blazer package for a veteran player at either the PG or SF position?

 

[hhhoggg]

Great idea. Trade a veteran with a defined role for yet another inexperienced PG.

I'm not against trading Outlaw, but would it be ridiculous to expect him to be a part of a Blazer package for a veteran player at either the PG or SF position?

Your preachin' to the choir Papa.